Hi,
is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log in in
SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER account
context?

My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of course
I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in advance!

Yes.

AIANDAS wrote:
> Hi,
> is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log in
> in
> SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER account
> context?
>
> My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of
> course
> I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in
> advance!

"AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:37684048-83C9-4E9F-952B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
> is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log in
> in
> SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER account
> context?
>
> My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of
> course
> I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in
> advance!

All accounts which are members of the administrators group are equal.

Your are doubtless describing XP Home, as the built in administrator account
can only be accessed in safe mode. In XP Pro, though, you can logon as
administrator in safe or normal mode.

Jim

"AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:37684048-83C9-4E9F-952B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
> is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log in
> in
> SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER account
> context?
>
> My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of
> course
> I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in
> advance!

The Administrator account is a specific named account. Other accounts with
Administrator rights are different accounts.

Actually I am in XP Pro mode. So then in XP Pro whether SAFE MODE or not the
administrator is still administrator.
OK then next question is there a way one administrator can supercede the
restrictions over another, where the other cannot supercede the previous?
I want to have an ALPHA Administrator and all other administrators on this
machine be secondary and tertiary in power.
"Jim" wrote:

>
> "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:37684048-83C9-4E9F-952B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi,
> > is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log in
> > in
> > SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER account
> > context?
> >
> > My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of
> > course
> > I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in
> > advance!
>
> All accounts which are members of the administrators group are equal.
>
> Your are doubtless describing XP Home, as the built in administrator account
> can only be accessed in safe mode. In XP Pro, though, you can logon as
> administrator in safe or normal mode.
>
> Jim
>
>
>

Any account which is a member of the administrators group can do whatever
the user wants whenever the user wants it done.
Jim
"AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:FBA013A3-2DEE-4043-9B3D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Actually I am in XP Pro mode. So then in XP Pro whether SAFE MODE or not
> the
> administrator is still administrator.
> OK then next question is there a way one administrator can supercede the
> restrictions over another, where the other cannot supercede the previous?
> I want to have an ALPHA Administrator and all other administrators on this
> machine be secondary and tertiary in power.
> "Jim" wrote:
>
>>
>> "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:37684048-83C9-4E9F-952B-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi,
>> > is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log
>> > in
>> > in
>> > SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER
>> > account
>> > context?
>> >
>> > My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of
>> > course
>> > I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in
>> > advance!
>>
>> All accounts which are members of the administrators group are equal.
>>
>> Your are doubtless describing XP Home, as the built in administrator
>> account
>> can only be accessed in safe mode. In XP Pro, though, you can logon as
>> administrator in safe or normal mode.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>

OK so what I am hearing in XP Pro there is no way to make one administrator
ALPHA over another?

"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

>
> "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:37684048-83C9-4E9F-952B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi,
> > is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log in
> > in
> > SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER account
> > context?
> >
> > My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of
> > course
> > I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in
> > advance!
>
> The Administrator account is a specific named account. Other accounts with
> Administrator rights are different accounts.
>
>

Aren't there various flavours of users, i.e., power user et al? Can these be
designated as administrator or how do I define one administrator as a power
user and another not?
Is there a link that give me detailed info on administrators and various
flavours of users?

"Jim" wrote:

> Any account which is a member of the administrators group can do whatever
> the user wants whenever the user wants it done.
> Jim
> "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:FBA013A3-2DEE-4043-9B3D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Actually I am in XP Pro mode. So then in XP Pro whether SAFE MODE or not
> > the
> > administrator is still administrator.
> > OK then next question is there a way one administrator can supercede the
> > restrictions over another, where the other cannot supercede the previous?
> > I want to have an ALPHA Administrator and all other administrators on this
> > machine be secondary and tertiary in power.
> > "Jim" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:37684048-83C9-4E9F-952B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hi,
> >> > is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log
> >> > in
> >> > in
> >> > SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER
> >> > account
> >> > context?
> >> >
> >> > My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of
> >> > course
> >> > I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in
> >> > advance!
> >>
> >> All accounts which are members of the administrators group are equal.
> >>
> >> Your are doubtless describing XP Home, as the built in administrator
> >> account
> >> can only be accessed in safe mode. In XP Pro, though, you can logon as
> >> administrator in safe or normal mode.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

=?Utf-8?B?QUlBTkRBUw==?= <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in news:9FDA5524-82B5-481F-A513-(E-Mail Removed):

> OK so what I am hearing in XP Pro there is no way to make one
> administrator ALPHA over another?
>
>

Any adminstrator can, for example, deny access to a file by any other
user -- whether administrator or not (even himself). However, if
that other user is also a member of the "administrators" group, then
they have the power to change the access rights of that file back so
they can again access that file.

You can, if you want, create another group e.g. "subadmins" and grant
members of that group an admin privilege subset using the Group
Policy Editor (start->run->gpedit.msc). This assumes XP Pro.

"How To Use the Group Policy Editor to Manage Local Computer Policy
in Windows XP"
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307882>

HTH,
John

"AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:9FDA5524-82B5-481F-A513-(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK so what I am hearing in XP Pro there is no way to make one
> administrator
> ALPHA over another?

Well, that really wasn't your first question.

What you should be hearing is that the Administrator account is a built-in
account that should not ever be used as a regular account, only for
maintenance. You should be hearing that other Administrator-level accounts
can be created with full and equal rights, but those are *not the
Administrator account*, just as my car is not your car even if they are
identical models.

You can also via policies do things to alter the situation, but what exactly
is it that you wish to accomplish?

HTH
-pk


>
> "Patrick Keenan" wrote:
>
>>
>> "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:37684048-83C9-4E9F-952B-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi,
>> > is there a difference between the Administrator one gets when you log
>> > in
>> > in
>> > SAFE MODE vs an account that is declared Administrator in a USER
>> > account
>> > context?
>> >
>> > My gut tells me the SAFE MODE Administrator takes precedence? But of
>> > course
>> > I could be wrong and this is the reason I need to ask here. Thanks in
>> > advance!
>>
>> The Administrator account is a specific named account. Other accounts
>> with
>> Administrator rights are different accounts.
>>
>>