In Outlook 2003When I click "To:" to address a message, the list is
alphabetized with first name first.
How can I get Outlook to present my contact list by the "file as" field,
which shows last name first?

Answered here daily.
Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing directories or
address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… > Set your sort order there
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Rowan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:9D1A4713-E68E-44EC-991D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> In Outlook 2003When I click "To:" to address a message, the list is
> alphabetized with first name first.
> How can I get Outlook to present my contact list by the "file as" field,
> which shows last name first?

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Answered here daily.
> Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing directories or
> address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… > Set your sort order there
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Rowan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:9D1A4713-E68E-44EC-991D-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In Outlook 2003When I click "To:" to address a message, the list is
>> alphabetized with first name first.
>> How can I get Outlook to present my contact list by the "file as" field,
>> which shows last name first?
>

Hi Russ,

I have this same issue but have been living with it. I followed your
direction above and when I do so I see outlook is using Windows Contacts.
When I which the address book to Outlook Contacts it tells me it is empty
and it is not. It has over 100 contacts in it. Outlook Contacts is my
default address book.

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Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium

Not possible. Outlook can never use Windows Contacts.
Make sure you have configured the Outlook Address Book Service correctly.
The Outlook Address Book should always appear empty. It simply hold the
Contacts Folder. To see the address book view of the folder, select the
folder.

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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Answered here daily.
>> Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing directories or
>> address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… > Set your sort order
>> there
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Rowan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:9D1A4713-E68E-44EC-991D-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> In Outlook 2003When I click "To:" to address a message, the list is
>>> alphabetized with first name first.
>>> How can I get Outlook to present my contact list by the "file as" field,
>>> which shows last name first?
>>
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> I have this same issue but have been living with it. I followed your
> direction above and when I do so I see outlook is using Windows Contacts.
> When I which the address book to Outlook Contacts it tells me it is empty
> and it is not. It has over 100 contacts in it. Outlook Contacts is my
> default address book.
>
> --
>
> Bob Eyster
> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>
>
>

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Not possible. Outlook can never use Windows Contacts.
> Make sure you have configured the Outlook Address Book Service correctly.
> The Outlook Address Book should always appear empty. It simply hold the
> Contacts Folder. To see the address book view of the folder, select the
> folder.
>
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Answered here daily.
>>> Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing directories or
>>> address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… > Set your sort order
>>> there
>>> --
>>> Russ Valentine
>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>> "Rowan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:9D1A4713-E68E-44EC-991D-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> In Outlook 2003When I click "To:" to address a message, the list is
>>>> alphabetized with first name first.
>>>> How can I get Outlook to present my contact list by the "file as"
>>>> field,
>>>> which shows last name first?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>> I have this same issue but have been living with it. I followed your
>> direction above and when I do so I see outlook is using Windows Contacts.
>> When I which the address book to Outlook Contacts it tells me it is empty
>> and it is not. It has over 100 contacts in it. Outlook Contacts is my
>> default address book.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bob Eyster
>> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>>
>>
>>
>

Well it is possible because it's there.

When I go to: "Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing
directories or
>>> address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… >" it lists 2 address
>>> books, Contacts and Outlook Address Book

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Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium

Of course. It always has. Those are your Outlook Contacts.
Repeating: Outlook cannot show your Windows Contacts and never could.

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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Not possible. Outlook can never use Windows Contacts.
>> Make sure you have configured the Outlook Address Book Service correctly.
>> The Outlook Address Book should always appear empty. It simply hold the
>> Contacts Folder. To see the address book view of the folder, select the
>> folder.
>>
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Answered here daily.
>>>> Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing directories or
>>>> address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… > Set your sort order
>>>> there
>>>> --
>>>> Russ Valentine
>>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>>> "Rowan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:9D1A4713-E68E-44EC-991D-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> In Outlook 2003When I click "To:" to address a message, the list is
>>>>> alphabetized with first name first.
>>>>> How can I get Outlook to present my contact list by the "file as"
>>>>> field,
>>>>> which shows last name first?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Russ,
>>>
>>> I have this same issue but have been living with it. I followed your
>>> direction above and when I do so I see outlook is using Windows
>>> Contacts. When I which the address book to Outlook Contacts it tells me
>>> it is empty and it is not. It has over 100 contacts in it. Outlook
>>> Contacts is my default address book.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bob Eyster
>>> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> Well it is possible because it's there.
>
> When I go to: "Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing
> directories or
>>>> address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… >" it lists 2 address
>>>> books, Contacts and Outlook Address Book
>
> --
>
> Bob Eyster
> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>
>
>

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Of course. It always has. Those are your Outlook Contacts.
> Repeating: Outlook cannot show your Windows Contacts and never could.
>
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Not possible. Outlook can never use Windows Contacts.
>>> Make sure you have configured the Outlook Address Book Service
>>> correctly. The Outlook Address Book should always appear empty. It
>>> simply hold the Contacts Folder. To see the address book view of the
>>> folder, select the folder.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Russ Valentine
>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>> "Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Answered here daily.
>>>>> Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing directories or
>>>>> address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… > Set your sort order
>>>>> there
>>>>> --
>>>>> Russ Valentine
>>>>> [MVP-Outlook]
>>>>> "Rowan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9D1A4713-E68E-44EC-991D-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> In Outlook 2003When I click "To:" to address a message, the list is
>>>>>> alphabetized with first name first.
>>>>>> How can I get Outlook to present my contact list by the "file as"
>>>>>> field,
>>>>>> which shows last name first?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Russ,
>>>>
>>>> I have this same issue but have been living with it. I followed your
>>>> direction above and when I do so I see outlook is using Windows
>>>> Contacts. When I which the address book to Outlook Contacts it tells me
>>>> it is empty and it is not. It has over 100 contacts in it. Outlook
>>>> Contacts is my default address book.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bob Eyster
>>>> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well it is possible because it's there.
>>
>> When I go to: "Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing
>> directories or
>>>>> address books > Outlook Address Book > Change… >" it lists 2 address
>>>>> books, Contacts and Outlook Address Book
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bob Eyster
>> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>>
>>
>>
>

I guess this is one of those things you need to see to believe.


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Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium

"Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...

> I guess this is one of those things you need to see to believe.

No, it's not. The "Contacts" that you see is not Windows Contacts, it's your
Contacts folder in Outlook. That's all you should see there. You shouldn't
see an entry called "Outlook Address Book" You should be in a dialogue whose
title is "Microsoft Outlook Address Book" with a pane labeled "Outlook Address
Books" containing just "Contacts" and below that pane, a button labeled
"Remove Address Book". Below that botton will be a :"Show names by" section
with two radio buttons. Below that section will be a button labeled "Close".
Are you saying you don't see that?
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

"Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> I guess this is one of those things you need to see to believe.
>
> No, it's not. The "Contacts" that you see is not Windows Contacts, it's
> your Contacts folder in Outlook. That's all you should see there. You
> shouldn't see an entry called "Outlook Address Book" You should be in a
> dialogue whose title is "Microsoft Outlook Address Book" with a pane
> labeled "Outlook Address Books" containing just "Contacts" and below that
> pane, a button labeled "Remove Address Book". Below that botton will be a
> :"Show names by" section with two radio buttons. Below that section will
> be a button labeled "Close". Are you saying you don't see that?
> --
> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

The Contacts that are used when I press the To: button IS NOT the Outlook
Address Book. It does not have the same entries as the Outlook Address Book
but DOES have the same as the Windows Contacts. You MVP's can say what you
want but I know what I'm looking at.

Is the Windows Contacts an MAPI type address book? If not then there is
another Contacts on my system I am not aware of.

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Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium

It's easy to get confused when dealing with the "address book" in Outlook,
and you are. The following are all true statements to which there are no
exceptions:
1. There is no address book in Outlook. The address book view is simply a
view of the electronic addresses contained within the Contact Folder(s) in
your Outlook Profiles. It contains no data of its own and can display no
other data source. It can only display a Contacts Folder that you have
enabled for viewing by designating it as an electronic address book in its
properties.
2. How you display the address book view will determine what you see. If you
choose to display the "Outlook Address Book" from the dropdown, you will of
course see nothing except the statement that there are "no entries in the
address book." Instead, you must display the Contact Folder that contains
the entries you want to see.
3. The address book view cannot display the Windows Address Book or Vista's
Windows Contacts.

With that information, you should be able to figure out what is wrong with
your installation. Only you can do so. You've provided no information that
tell us what's wrong. Many users have a corrupt address book service because
they migrated their data incorrectly (by importing it for example). Many
have simply not configured their view correctly by not showing the correct
Contacts Folder. Some have corrupt Contact entries: only Contacts with valid
resolved electronic addresses will appear in the address book view. Start by
reviewing the documentation on how to configure the address book view
correctly and compare your setup to what it should be:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...Product=ol2002
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Bob Eyster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> I guess this is one of those things you need to see to believe.
>>
>> No, it's not. The "Contacts" that you see is not Windows Contacts, it's
>> your Contacts folder in Outlook. That's all you should see there. You
>> shouldn't see an entry called "Outlook Address Book" You should be in a
>> dialogue whose title is "Microsoft Outlook Address Book" with a pane
>> labeled "Outlook Address Books" containing just "Contacts" and below that
>> pane, a button labeled "Remove Address Book". Below that botton will be
>> a :"Show names by" section with two radio buttons. Below that section
>> will be a button labeled "Close". Are you saying you don't see that?
>> --
>> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
>
> The Contacts that are used when I press the To: button IS NOT the Outlook
> Address Book. It does not have the same entries as the Outlook Address
> Book but DOES have the same as the Windows Contacts. You MVP's can say
> what you want but I know what I'm looking at.
>
> Is the Windows Contacts an MAPI type address book? If not then there is
> another Contacts on my system I am not aware of.
>
> --
>
> Bob Eyster
> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>
>
>