Adding win2000 to win98, dual boot?

I seem to remmeber hearing that one can install win2000 Professional
over win98 and retain both OS's with dual boot.

Is this feature provided by win2000 or do I have to have 3rd party
software to do this?

If by 2000, do I just answer a clear question the right way during
installation, or is it subtle?

Thanks.

If you are inclined to email me
for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
for your drive controller in drive "A")

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Then press C to create a new partition and specify the size (if
required). Windows will by default use all available space. (don't install
more than one operating system to each partition)

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo.../W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-049.mspx

Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en



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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"mm" wrote:
> Adding win2000 to win98, dual boot?
>
> I seem to remmeber hearing that one can install win2000 Professional
> over win98 and retain both OS's with dual boot.
>
> Is this feature provided by win2000 or do I have to have 3rd party
> software to do this?
>
> If by 2000, do I just answer a clear question the right way during
> installation, or is it subtle?
>
> Thanks.
>
> If you are inclined to email me
> for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)

I can't figure out how to make a new thread to this discussion of Windows
2000 so I'm replying to this question to ask my question but it isn't related
to this person's question. My computer has Windows 2000 as its OS and it
won't start. I don't have an ERD for it. I have used an ERD before on it and
it did boot up. I have looked up various websites to find a file for it to
download to a floppy on a Windows XP computer but I'm afraid I wasn't able to
find a Windows 2000 boot disk that would start my computer. Where could I
download a bootable disk for Windows 2000 using a Windows XP computer. I
managed to download two files from the OS CD before my computer stopped
starting-Ntdlr and Ntdetect.com but I got an error message about a ntoskrnl
file that is missing or corrupt and also an error message about the Boot.ini
file being invalid. I don't have the Boot.ini file on the floppy where these
two files I downloaded from the MakeBoot folder on the OS CD. I can't open
the OS to download the ERD and if I could then my troubles would be over.
What could I do to get the computer to start up? Where could I find the
download on another Windows XP computer if this is possible?
"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
> disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
> CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
> makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
> prompts.
>
> (Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
> to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
> important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
> controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
> you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
> for your drive controller in drive "A")
>
> Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
> install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
> screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.
>
> Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
> the license agreement and continue the installation.
>
> When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
> partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
> disk. Then press C to create a new partition and specify the size (if
> required). Windows will by default use all available space. (don't install
> more than one operating system to each partition)
>
> Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
> connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo.../W2KSP4_EN.EXE
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-043.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-049.mspx
>
> Then
>
> Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "mm" wrote:
> > Adding win2000 to win98, dual boot?
> >
> > I seem to remmeber hearing that one can install win2000 Professional
> > over win98 and retain both OS's with dual boot.
> >
> > Is this feature provided by win2000 or do I have to have 3rd party
> > software to do this?
> >
> > If by 2000, do I just answer a clear question the right way during
> > installation, or is it subtle?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > If you are inclined to email me
> > for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)
>

What happens when you try?

Try creating a boot disk. For the floppy to successfully boot Windows 2000
the disk must contain the "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows
2000 (or newer) machine, not a DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written
to the floppy), and copy Windows 2000 (or newer) versions of ntldr,
ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the boot.ini to give it a correct ARC
path for the machine you wish to boot. Below is an example of boot.ini. The
default is to start the operating system located on the first partition of
the primary or first drive (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,1"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,2"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,1"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,2"

Another possibility is to try loading the controller driver also from
floppy. For the floppy to successfully boot Windows 2000 the disk must
contain the "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows 2000 machine,
not a DOS/Win9x, so the "NT" boot sector gets written to the floppy), then
copy ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the boot.ini to give it a
correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.

In order for this to work you'll want to change the arc path in boot.ini
from multi syntax to scsi syntax to indicate that Windows 2000 will load a
boot device driver and use that driver to access the boot partition. Then
also copy the correct manufacturer scsi driver to the floppy but renamed to
ntbootdd.sys

Something like this below;

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,1"
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,2"
scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,1"
scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,2"


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Suzie" wrote:
>
> I can't figure out how to make a new thread to this discussion of Windows
> 2000 so I'm replying to this question to ask my question but it isn't
> related
> to this person's question. My computer has Windows 2000 as its OS and it
> won't start. I don't have an ERD for it. I have used an ERD before on it
> and
> it did boot up. I have looked up various websites to find a file for it to
> download to a floppy on a Windows XP computer but I'm afraid I wasn't able
> to
> find a Windows 2000 boot disk that would start my computer. Where could I
> download a bootable disk for Windows 2000 using a Windows XP computer. I
> managed to download two files from the OS CD before my computer stopped
> starting-Ntdlr and Ntdetect.com but I got an error message about a
> ntoskrnl
> file that is missing or corrupt and also an error message about the
> Boot.ini
> file being invalid. I don't have the Boot.ini file on the floppy where
> these
> two files I downloaded from the MakeBoot folder on the OS CD. I can't open
> the OS to download the ERD and if I could then my troubles would be over.
> What could I do to get the computer to start up? Where could I find the
> download on another Windows XP computer if this is possible?

The computer won't boot up. It starts up for a second and then it stops. Then
I press the power button again and the computer won't start up. I can
eventually get the machine to start up, but it won't boot all the way up.
When I press the F1 key after the BIOS starts, I am taken to an error page
telling mat that the ntoskrnl file is missing or corrupt and to install a
copy of it. I then have to turn off the compter because it won't boot anymore
than that. Where could I get the files Ntldr and Ntdetect.com and the
Boot.ini files from to put on a floppy. I can't use my OS CD because the
Windows XP computers won't open it.
I found a website with a Boot.ini file on it and added to the floppy I had
with the two files Ntdlr and Ntdetect.com. The Boot.ini file is:

[boot loader]
timeout=-1
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="First harddisk, first
partition" /sos
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="First harddisk, second
partition" /sos
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="First harddisk, third
partition" /sos
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS="First harddisk, fourth
partition" /sos
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Second harddisk, first
partition" /sos
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Second harddisk, second
partition" /sos
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Second harddisk, third
partition" /sos
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Second harddisk, fourth
partition" /sos
C:\="Previous Operating System on C:\"

I don't know how to edit this file for my computer. any suggestiions. My
computer is homemade and I don't have a floppy drive nearby to use.


"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> What happens when you try?
>
> Try creating a boot disk. For the floppy to successfully boot Windows 2000
> the disk must contain the "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows
> 2000 (or newer) machine, not a DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written
> to the floppy), and copy Windows 2000 (or newer) versions of ntldr,
> ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the boot.ini to give it a correct ARC
> path for the machine you wish to boot. Below is an example of boot.ini. The
> default is to start the operating system located on the first partition of
> the primary or first drive (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.
>
> [boot loader]
> timeout=10
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,1"
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,2"
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,1"
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,2"
>
> Another possibility is to try loading the controller driver also from
> floppy. For the floppy to successfully boot Windows 2000 the disk must
> contain the "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows 2000 machine,
> not a DOS/Win9x, so the "NT" boot sector gets written to the floppy), then
> copy ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the boot.ini to give it a
> correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.
>
> In order for this to work you'll want to change the arc path in boot.ini
> from multi syntax to scsi syntax to indicate that Windows 2000 will load a
> boot device driver and use that driver to access the boot partition. Then
> also copy the correct manufacturer scsi driver to the floppy but renamed to
> ntbootdd.sys
>
> Something like this below;
>
> [boot loader]
> timeout=10
> default=scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
> [operating systems]
> scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,1"
> scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,2"
> scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,1"
> scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,2"
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "Suzie" wrote:
> >
> > I can't figure out how to make a new thread to this discussion of Windows
> > 2000 so I'm replying to this question to ask my question but it isn't
> > related
> > to this person's question. My computer has Windows 2000 as its OS and it
> > won't start. I don't have an ERD for it. I have used an ERD before on it
> > and
> > it did boot up. I have looked up various websites to find a file for it to
> > download to a floppy on a Windows XP computer but I'm afraid I wasn't able
> > to
> > find a Windows 2000 boot disk that would start my computer. Where could I
> > download a bootable disk for Windows 2000 using a Windows XP computer. I
> > managed to download two files from the OS CD before my computer stopped
> > starting-Ntdlr and Ntdetect.com but I got an error message about a
> > ntoskrnl
> > file that is missing or corrupt and also an error message about the
> > Boot.ini
> > file being invalid. I don't have the Boot.ini file on the floppy where
> > these
> > two files I downloaded from the MakeBoot folder on the OS CD. I can't open
> > the OS to download the ERD and if I could then my troubles would be over.
> > What could I do to get the computer to start up? Where could I find the
> > download on another Windows XP computer if this is possible?
>

Use the example boot.ini I posted. Use Windows XP versions of ntldr and
ntdetect.com

What was done to cause the change?


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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Suzie" wrote:
<snip>
Where could I get the files Ntldr and Ntdetect.com and the
> Boot.ini files from to put on a floppy.
<snip>

> I don't know how to edit this file for my computer. any suggestiions. My
> computer is homemade and I don't have a floppy drive nearby to use.
I've got a cd-r and usb way to boot the pc if you don't have a floppy
for external booting, you don't even have to edit the boot.ini file:
http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm#What_if_the_computer_doesn't_have_a_floppy_drive?

Thank-you for your help. I downloaded the bootdisk files and copied them to a
cd. I really like the CD burn software too. I tried to start the computer
and after a while of pressing the power button it started up with the help of
the cd. The bootdisk for old compters did work. I still am not able to boot
up to the desktop, but it does start. I keep getting an error message that
says, "Windows 2000 could not start because the following file is missing or
corrupt: <Windows 2000 root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe. Please re-install a copy
of the above file. I don't know how to fix this error. I may have to get a
new hard drive for it.

"(E-Mail Removed)" wrote:

> > I don't know how to edit this file for my computer. any suggestiions. My
> > computer is homemade and I don't have a floppy drive nearby to use.
> I've got a cd-r and usb way to boot the pc if you don't have a floppy
> for external booting, you don't even have to edit the boot.ini file:
> http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm#What_if_the_computer_doesn't_have_a_floppy_drive?
>
>

You should put the three files on a floppy that's been formatted on Windows
2000 (or newer) machine.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Suzie" wrote:
> Thank-you for your help. I downloaded the bootdisk files and copied them
> to a
> cd. I really like the CD burn software too. I tried to start the computer
> and after a while of pressing the power button it started up with the help
> of
> the cd. The bootdisk for old compters did work. I still am not able to
> boot
> up to the desktop, but it does start. I keep getting an error message that
> says, "Windows 2000 could not start because the following file is missing
> or
> corrupt: <Windows 2000 root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe. Please re-install a
> copy
> of the above file. I don't know how to fix this error. I may have to get a
> new hard drive for it.
>
> "(E-Mail Removed)" wrote:
>
>> > I don't know how to edit this file for my computer. any suggestiions.
>> > My
>> > computer is homemade and I don't have a floppy drive nearby to use.
>> I've got a cd-r and usb way to boot the pc if you don't have a floppy
>> for external booting, you don't even have to edit the boot.ini file:
>> http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm#What_if_the_computer_doesn't_have_a_floppy_drive?
>>
>>

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"Suzie" <(E-Mail Removed)> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:0E95F5EC-FB2D-4BE2-84A4-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> I can't figure out how to make a new thread to this discussion of Windows
> 2000 so I'm replying to this question to ask my question but it isn't
> related
> to this person's question. My computer has Windows 2000 as its OS and it
> won't start. I don't have an ERD for it. I have used an ERD before on it
> and
> it did boot up. I have looked up various websites to find a file for it to
> download to a floppy on a Windows XP computer but I'm afraid I wasn't able
> to
> find a Windows 2000 boot disk that would start my computer. Where could I
> download a bootable disk for Windows 2000 using a Windows XP computer. I
> managed to download two files from the OS CD before my computer stopped
> starting-Ntdlr and Ntdetect.com but I got an error message about a
> ntoskrnl
> file that is missing or corrupt and also an error message about the
> Boot.ini
> file being invalid. I don't have the Boot.ini file on the floppy where
> these
> two files I downloaded from the MakeBoot folder on the OS CD. I can't open
> the OS to download the ERD and if I could then my troubles would be over.
> What could I do to get the computer to start up? Where could I find the
> download on another Windows XP computer if this is possible?
> "Dave Patrick" wrote:
>
>> To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or
>> setup
>> disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows
>> 2000
>> CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
>> makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
>> prompts.
>>
>> (Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll
>> want
>> to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
>> important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent
>> drive
>> controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then
>> later
>> you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000
>> driver
>> for your drive controller in drive "A")
>>
>> Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
>> install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
>> screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.
>>
>> Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms
>> of
>> the license agreement and continue the installation.
>>
>> When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
>> partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
>> disk. Then press C to create a new partition and specify the size (if
>> required). Windows will by default use all available space. (don't
>> install
>> more than one operating system to each partition)
>>
>> Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
>> connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
>> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo.../W2KSP4_EN.EXE
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-043.mspx
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-049.mspx
>>
>> Then
>>
>> Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>>
>> "mm" wrote:
>> > Adding win2000 to win98, dual boot?
>> >
>> > I seem to remmeber hearing that one can install win2000 Professional
>> > over win98 and retain both OS's with dual boot.
>> >
>> > Is this feature provided by win2000 or do I have to have 3rd party
>> > software to do this?
>> >
>> > If by 2000, do I just answer a clear question the right way during
>> > installation, or is it subtle?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > If you are inclined to email me
>> > for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)
>>