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OK, lets try one more thing. When you turn on your computer, go into the
bios. This information is provided if you don't know how to get to the bios. You will see on the screen to press either del, F1, F2 or some other key or combination to get there just after the memory count has completed. (some machines hide the bios boot information and only show a logo. Press the Esc key immediately when the logo shows.. Once in the bios, locate the place where the IDE channels are displayed. Make sure the Primary Slave is not disabled. It should be enabled and/or set to Auto. What you described with the CD drive not being found is an indication to me that the bios was shipped with the Primary Slave disabled. Let me know what happens. "kimmo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news  B484031-0C29-422E-8976-(E-Mail Removed)...>I have one Floppy drive, one CD drive and one CD-RW Drive and two Hard >Disks > 40G Seagate and 80 G Western Digital. > The jumper settings was that the 40G master drive (Seagate) as "master or > single drive" and the 80 slave (Western Digital) as "slave" . > I even bought a new 80 pin IDE cable but it made no difference. POST can > see > the slave and names it the slave but windows can't find it. Disk > Management > can't find the 80G drive at all. I put the 40g as master and then CD drive > as > a slave in the primary channel and in the POST you can see them ok put > windows cannot find the CD Drive. In Disk Management you can't see the CD > drive. > To me it look's like I can only have Master Drive in the Primary Channel > and > what ever I add on that Channel, Windows can't find it. I tried RESCAN > DISKS > in the Disk Management but nothing happens. At the moment I have on the > Primary Channel 40G HD as a Master and CD Drive as a Slave and Windows can > only find the HD not the CD Drive. On the Secondary Channel I have 80G HD > as > a Master and CD-RW as a slave and Windows can find both of them. > Seagate has also a jumper setting called "Master with non ATA- compatible > Slave" but it didn't work either. So I don't know what to try next. > > > "LVTravel" wrote: > >> I possibly made a slight mistake when I told you to hook up using the >> cable >> going to the CD... (No harm will happen to computer or drive.) Most >> manufacturer's use a 40 wire cable on the secondary channel for CD drives >> since they can't make use of the "features" that the 80 wire cable >> provides. >> The computer will find the drives OK and use them but not to their peak >> efficiency. >> >> Now, back to your problem.. >> >> If your computer can see the new drive on the secondary channel when set >> to >> master, it should also be seen when on the primary channel as slave. I >> still think that you may be having jumper problems on the primary >> channel. >> What brand of drive is the Primary Master and what brand is the Primary >> Slave? >> >> If you have a Western Digital, Fujitsu and possibly other drive, it needs >> a >> different jumper setting for Master with no slave present than it does >> for a >> Master with slave present. It shows the different jumper configurations >> on >> the top of the drive, but you would have to remove the drive from the >> computer to see it. >> >> If one drive happens to be set as CS (cable select) and the other is set >> as >> Master or Slave you can also run into similar problems. >> >> Let me know what happens.. >> >> >> "kimmo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:358BB935-0AEB-42E3-B306-(E-Mail Removed)... >> > Finally some progress! >> > >> > Unfortunately I was busy doing other things , but now I got time again >> > to >> > try to fix this problem. >> > I did like you said "temporarily disconnect the drive cables to the CD >> > drive/s, reset the jumper on the new drive to Master/single and hook up >> > the >> > CD drive cable to the new hard drive and restart" and it worked. Now I >> > can >> > see both drives and partitions (C,D,E,F). You said that I should >> > replace >> > the >> > 80 wire/40 pin connector on the >> > primary channel so I tried by swapping the primary and secondary wires >> > and >> > it still works but if I but the 80 gig drive in the same ribbon with >> > 40gig >> > it >> > won't work and I still don't understand why. I have checked and re >> > checked >> > jumpers and everything should be ok. >> > >> > >> > "LVTravel" wrote: >> > >> >> I know you say that the jumpers are set correctly but please recheck >> >> them. >> >> I have had problems with Windows not recognizing a drive but dos and >> >> the >> >> bios recognizing them if the Master was incorrectly set. >> >> >> >> As the drive does show in the bios, make sure that the jumper on the >> >> Master >> >> drive (if it is a Western Digital drive) is set to Master with slave >> >> present >> >> and the new drive is set for Slave. If both drives are set to cable >> >> select >> >> or one of them is set that way and the other is not then you need to >> >> set >> >> the >> >> jumpers as Master/Slave. >> >> >> >> If all there is correct, temporarily disconnect the drive cables to >> >> the >> >> CD >> >> drive/s, reset the jumper on the new drive to Master/single and hook >> >> up >> >> the >> >> CD drive cable to the new hard drive and restart. Does Windows >> >> recognize >> >> the drive now? If so, I would replace the 80 wire/40 pin connector on >> >> the >> >> primary channel. >> >> >> >> Let me know what happens. >> >> >> >> >> >> "kimmoke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> >> news:9CD2D8AE-6769-449F-B879-(E-Mail Removed)... >> >> > Thanks for your reply, but my problem is that when I open Computer >> >> > Management >> >> > and Disk managament there is no new drive to "play" with.First I >> >> > partitioned >> >> > it as primary partition and formatted it and Windows could not find >> >> > it >> >> > so >> >> > I >> >> > deleted it and partitioned as extended partition but Windows cannot >> >> > find >> >> > that >> >> > either.I have done all this by using FDISK.My problem is that during >> >> > the >> >> > POST >> >> > everything is ok,Master40gig,and slave 80gig but Windows cannot find >> >> > the >> >> > 80gig drive at all. >> >> > Both drives are in the same ribbon and master and slave jumbers are >> >> > ok. >> >> > "LVTravel" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I am assuming your OS is Windows XP. Right click on My Computer >> >> >> then >> >> >> Left >> >> >> click on Manage. When the Computer Management window opens click >> >> >> on >> >> >> Disk >> >> >> Management. >> >> >> >> >> >> Find the drive in the bottom window. A new hard drive should not >> >> >> have >> >> >> an >> >> >> extended partition on it but should be a primary partition for the >> >> >> first >> >> >> partition created and "drive letter" assigned. Any other >> >> >> partitions >> >> >> to >> >> >> divide the drive should be created in the extended partition >> >> >> normally. >> >> >> >> >> >> Since there is no data on the drive (correct?) right click on the >> >> >> drive >> >> >> information and delete the drive letter and partition. Recreate by >> >> >> partitioning the drive (right click and choose partition) and allow >> >> >> it >> >> >> to >> >> >> format the drive (NTFS is preferred and FAT 32 is limited to 32 GB >> >> >> size). >> >> >> >> >> >> To create partitions on XP machines and manage disk drives you >> >> >> should >> >> >> generally only use the tools in XP (except to create a FAT 32 drive >> >> >> larger >> >> >> than 32 GB). Of course there are exceptions if you want to change >> >> >> partition >> >> >> sizes, etc. then you would need to use a specialty program like >> >> >> Partition >> >> >> Magic. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "kimmo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> >> >> news:B76FA653-DB8A-4838-87A5-(E-Mail Removed)... >> >> >> > Hi >> >> >> > I upgraded my pc by installing a second hard drive and made it an >> >> >> > extended >> >> >> > partition and formatted. When booting up, BIOS recognizes the new >> >> >> > partition >> >> >> > and the size and when I check by using FDISK I can see that the >> >> >> > right >> >> >> > letter >> >> >> > (E) has been allocated for it and everything looks ok but Windows >> >> >> > doesn't >> >> >> > find it at all. >> >> >> > Does anybody have any ideas why this is happening and how to fix >> >> >> > it. >> >> >> > Thank you! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > |
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Primary Slave is enabled and I can see the CD-Drive details on Bios and
everything looks ok, all settings are set to auto, I can see my Primary master and Slave and Secondery Master and Slave but when Windows starst it can't find the Primary Slave. "LVTravel" wrote: > OK, lets try one more thing. When you turn on your computer, go into the > bios. This information is provided if you don't know how to get to the > bios. You will see on the screen to press either del, F1, F2 or some other > key or combination to get there just after the memory count has completed. > (some machines hide the bios boot information and only show a logo. Press > the Esc key immediately when the logo shows.. > > Once in the bios, locate the place where the IDE channels are displayed. > Make sure the Primary Slave is not disabled. It should be enabled and/or > set to Auto. What you described with the CD drive not being found is an > indication to me that the bios was shipped with the Primary Slave disabled. > > Let me know what happens. > > "kimmo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news B484031-0C29-422E-8976-(E-Mail Removed)...> >I have one Floppy drive, one CD drive and one CD-RW Drive and two Hard > >Disks > > 40G Seagate and 80 G Western Digital. > > The jumper settings was that the 40G master drive (Seagate) as "master or > > single drive" and the 80 slave (Western Digital) as "slave" . > > I even bought a new 80 pin IDE cable but it made no difference. POST can > > see > > the slave and names it the slave but windows can't find it. Disk > > Management > > can't find the 80G drive at all. I put the 40g as master and then CD drive > > as > > a slave in the primary channel and in the POST you can see them ok put > > windows cannot find the CD Drive. In Disk Management you can't see the CD > > drive. > > To me it look's like I can only have Master Drive in the Primary Channel > > and > > what ever I add on that Channel, Windows can't find it. I tried RESCAN > > DISKS > > in the Disk Management but nothing happens. At the moment I have on the > > Primary Channel 40G HD as a Master and CD Drive as a Slave and Windows can > > only find the HD not the CD Drive. On the Secondary Channel I have 80G HD > > as > > a Master and CD-RW as a slave and Windows can find both of them. > > Seagate has also a jumper setting called "Master with non ATA- compatible > > Slave" but it didn't work either. So I don't know what to try next. > > > > > > "LVTravel" wrote: > > > >> I possibly made a slight mistake when I told you to hook up using the > >> cable > >> going to the CD... (No harm will happen to computer or drive.) Most > >> manufacturer's use a 40 wire cable on the secondary channel for CD drives > >> since they can't make use of the "features" that the 80 wire cable > >> provides. > >> The computer will find the drives OK and use them but not to their peak > >> efficiency. > >> > >> Now, back to your problem.. > >> > >> If your computer can see the new drive on the secondary channel when set > >> to > >> master, it should also be seen when on the primary channel as slave. I > >> still think that you may be having jumper problems on the primary > >> channel. > >> What brand of drive is the Primary Master and what brand is the Primary > >> Slave? > >> > >> If you have a Western Digital, Fujitsu and possibly other drive, it needs > >> a > >> different jumper setting for Master with no slave present than it does > >> for a > >> Master with slave present. It shows the different jumper configurations > >> on > >> the top of the drive, but you would have to remove the drive from the > >> computer to see it. > >> > >> If one drive happens to be set as CS (cable select) and the other is set > >> as > >> Master or Slave you can also run into similar problems. > >> > >> Let me know what happens.. > >> > >> > >> "kimmo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> news:358BB935-0AEB-42E3-B306-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > Finally some progress! > >> > > >> > Unfortunately I was busy doing other things , but now I got time again > >> > to > >> > try to fix this problem. > >> > I did like you said "temporarily disconnect the drive cables to the CD > >> > drive/s, reset the jumper on the new drive to Master/single and hook up > >> > the > >> > CD drive cable to the new hard drive and restart" and it worked. Now I > >> > can > >> > see both drives and partitions (C,D,E,F). You said that I should > >> > replace > >> > the > >> > 80 wire/40 pin connector on the > >> > primary channel so I tried by swapping the primary and secondary wires > >> > and > >> > it still works but if I but the 80 gig drive in the same ribbon with > >> > 40gig > >> > it > >> > won't work and I still don't understand why. I have checked and re > >> > checked > >> > jumpers and everything should be ok. > >> > > >> > > >> > "LVTravel" wrote: > >> > > >> >> I know you say that the jumpers are set correctly but please recheck > >> >> them. > >> >> I have had problems with Windows not recognizing a drive but dos and > >> >> the > >> >> bios recognizing them if the Master was incorrectly set. > >> >> > >> >> As the drive does show in the bios, make sure that the jumper on the > >> >> Master > >> >> drive (if it is a Western Digital drive) is set to Master with slave > >> >> present > >> >> and the new drive is set for Slave. If both drives are set to cable > >> >> select > >> >> or one of them is set that way and the other is not then you need to > >> >> set > >> >> the > >> >> jumpers as Master/Slave. > >> >> > >> >> If all there is correct, temporarily disconnect the drive cables to > >> >> the > >> >> CD > >> >> drive/s, reset the jumper on the new drive to Master/single and hook > >> >> up > >> >> the > >> >> CD drive cable to the new hard drive and restart. Does Windows > >> >> recognize > >> >> the drive now? If so, I would replace the 80 wire/40 pin connector on > >> >> the > >> >> primary channel. > >> >> > >> >> Let me know what happens. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "kimmoke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> >> news:9CD2D8AE-6769-449F-B879-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> >> > Thanks for your reply, but my problem is that when I open Computer > >> >> > Management > >> >> > and Disk managament there is no new drive to "play" with.First I > >> >> > partitioned > >> >> > it as primary partition and formatted it and Windows could not find > >> >> > it > >> >> > so > >> >> > I > >> >> > deleted it and partitioned as extended partition but Windows cannot > >> >> > find > >> >> > that > >> >> > either.I have done all this by using FDISK.My problem is that during > >> >> > the > >> >> > POST > >> >> > everything is ok,Master40gig,and slave 80gig but Windows cannot find > >> >> > the > >> >> > 80gig drive at all. > >> >> > Both drives are in the same ribbon and master and slave jumbers are > >> >> > ok. > >> >> > "LVTravel" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> I am assuming your OS is Windows XP. Right click on My Computer > >> >> >> then > >> >> >> Left > >> >> >> click on Manage. When the Computer Management window opens click > >> >> >> on > >> >> >> Disk > >> >> >> Management. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Find the drive in the bottom window. A new hard drive should not > >> >> >> have > >> >> >> an > >> >> >> extended partition on it but should be a primary partition for the > >> >> >> first > >> >> >> partition created and "drive letter" assigned. Any other > >> >> >> partitions > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> divide the drive should be created in the extended partition > >> >> >> normally. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Since there is no data on the drive (correct?) right click on the > >> >> >> drive > >> >> >> information and delete the drive letter and partition. Recreate by > >> >> >> partitioning the drive (right click and choose partition) and allow > >> >> >> it > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> format the drive (NTFS is preferred and FAT 32 is limited to 32 GB > >> >> >> size). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> To create partitions on XP machines and manage disk drives you > >> >> >> should > >> >> >> generally only use the tools in XP (except to create a FAT 32 drive > >> >> >> larger > >> >> >> than 32 GB). Of course there are exceptions if you want to change > >> >> >> partition > >> >> >> sizes, etc. then you would need to use a specialty program like > >> >> >> Partition > >> >> >> Magic. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "kimmo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:B76FA653-DB8A-4838-87A5-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> >> >> > Hi > >> >> >> > I upgraded my pc by installing a second hard drive and made it an > >> >> >> > extended > >> >> >> > partition and formatted. When booting up, BIOS recognizes the new > >> >> >> > partition > >> >> >> > and the size and when I check by using FDISK I can see that the > >> >> >> > right > >> >> >> > letter > >> >> >> > (E) has been allocated for it and everything looks ok but Windows > >> >> >> > doesn't > >> >> >> > find it at all. > >> >> >> > Does anybody have any ideas why this is happening and how to fix > >> >> >> > it. > >> >> >> > Thank you! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > |
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