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Dave
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      29th Dec 2005
Hi, I've had my box

Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
Asus P4C800 Deluxe
Intel Canterwood i875P Chipset
1536 MB DDR SDRAM (Corsair, running at 200MHz)
ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256 MB
Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
Windows XP Home

for over two years now and it was perfectly stable through two video card
upgrades and even a sound card upgrade. Recently I bought some RAM for my
system, a gig to be exact. It was 512 MB before the upgrade. Since then I am
getting FREQUENT system shut downs due to "stop errors" and an "unknown
device driver". Micro$oft is unsure of what is causing the problem. Now this
stick of RAM is the same brand, Corsair, the same specs, almost identical to
the stick of 512, except its 1024. My BIOS is the latest out from Asus and I
keep my drivers updated. Any suggestions? If more info is needed, just ask,
I will provide as the need arises. TIA, all.


 
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ohaya
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      29th Dec 2005


Dave wrote:
>
> Hi, I've had my box
>
> Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
> Asus P4C800 Deluxe
> Intel Canterwood i875P Chipset
> 1536 MB DDR SDRAM (Corsair, running at 200MHz)
> ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256 MB
> Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
> Windows XP Home
>
> for over two years now and it was perfectly stable through two video card
> upgrades and even a sound card upgrade. Recently I bought some RAM for my
> system, a gig to be exact. It was 512 MB before the upgrade. Since then I am
> getting FREQUENT system shut downs due to "stop errors" and an "unknown
> device driver". Micro$oft is unsure of what is causing the problem. Now this
> stick of RAM is the same brand, Corsair, the same specs, almost identical to
> the stick of 512, except its 1024. My BIOS is the latest out from Asus and I
> keep my drivers updated. Any suggestions? If more info is needed, just ask,
> I will provide as the need arises. TIA, all.



Hi Dave,

Have you tried running a standalone memory test program like Memtest+ or
Doc Memory? You'll need to make a bootable floppy, boot to the floppy,
and run the test program.

Jim
 
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Dave
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      29th Dec 2005
Jim

No I haven't tried this. I'll do this and post results, k?

"ohaya" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> Dave wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I've had my box
>>
>> Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
>> Asus P4C800 Deluxe
>> Intel Canterwood i875P Chipset
>> 1536 MB DDR SDRAM (Corsair, running at 200MHz)
>> ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256 MB
>> Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
>> Windows XP Home
>>
>> for over two years now and it was perfectly stable through two video card
>> upgrades and even a sound card upgrade. Recently I bought some RAM for my
>> system, a gig to be exact. It was 512 MB before the upgrade. Since then I
>> am
>> getting FREQUENT system shut downs due to "stop errors" and an "unknown
>> device driver". Micro$oft is unsure of what is causing the problem. Now
>> this
>> stick of RAM is the same brand, Corsair, the same specs, almost identical
>> to
>> the stick of 512, except its 1024. My BIOS is the latest out from Asus
>> and I
>> keep my drivers updated. Any suggestions? If more info is needed, just
>> ask,
>> I will provide as the need arises. TIA, all.

>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Have you tried running a standalone memory test program like Memtest+ or
> Doc Memory? You'll need to make a bootable floppy, boot to the floppy,
> and run the test program.
>
> Jim



 
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ohaya
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      29th Dec 2005
Dave wrote:
>
> Jim
>
> No I haven't tried this. I'll do this and post results, k?



Hi,

Good luck. BTW, you can find Doc Memory at
http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/docinfo.asp. Memtest+ is at
http://www.memtest.org/.

Jim
 
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Joe Bleaux
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      29th Dec 2005
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:59:58 GMT, Dave <da-(E-Mail Removed)> said...
> Hi, I've had my box
>
> Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
> Asus P4C800 Deluxe
> Intel Canterwood i875P Chipset
> 1536 MB DDR SDRAM (Corsair, running at 200MHz)
> ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256 MB
> Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
> Windows XP Home
>
> for over two years now and it was perfectly stable through two video card
> upgrades and even a sound card upgrade. Recently I bought some RAM for my
> system, a gig to be exact. It was 512 MB before the upgrade. Since then I am
> getting FREQUENT system shut downs due to "stop errors" and an "unknown
> device driver". Micro$oft is unsure of what is causing the problem. Now this
> stick of RAM is the same brand, Corsair, the same specs, almost identical to
> the stick of 512, except its 1024. My BIOS is the latest out from Asus and I
> keep my drivers updated. Any suggestions? If more info is needed, just ask,
> I will provide as the need arises. TIA, all.
>
>
>


Have you tried running the new RAM by itself to see if you still get the
same problems? It could be you just got a bad stick of RAM.


Joe
 
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old man
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      29th Dec 2005
I found Corsair tech helpfull with solving an issue

"Dave" <da-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%eMsf.12728$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Jim
>
> No I haven't tried this. I'll do this and post results, k?
>
> "ohaya" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >
> > Dave wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, I've had my box
> >>
> >> Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
> >> Asus P4C800 Deluxe
> >> Intel Canterwood i875P Chipset
> >> 1536 MB DDR SDRAM (Corsair, running at 200MHz)
> >> ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256 MB
> >> Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
> >> Windows XP Home
> >>
> >> for over two years now and it was perfectly stable through two video

card
> >> upgrades and even a sound card upgrade. Recently I bought some RAM for

my
> >> system, a gig to be exact. It was 512 MB before the upgrade. Since then

I
> >> am
> >> getting FREQUENT system shut downs due to "stop errors" and an "unknown
> >> device driver". Micro$oft is unsure of what is causing the problem. Now
> >> this
> >> stick of RAM is the same brand, Corsair, the same specs, almost

identical
> >> to
> >> the stick of 512, except its 1024. My BIOS is the latest out from Asus
> >> and I
> >> keep my drivers updated. Any suggestions? If more info is needed, just
> >> ask,
> >> I will provide as the need arises. TIA, all.

> >
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Have you tried running a standalone memory test program like Memtest+ or
> > Doc Memory? You'll need to make a bootable floppy, boot to the floppy,
> > and run the test program.
> >
> > Jim

>
>



 
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Sylvain VAN DER WALDE
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      29th Dec 2005
"Dave" <da-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OPLsf.12863$(E-Mail Removed)...
Hi, I've had my box

Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
Asus P4C800 Deluxe
Intel Canterwood i875P Chipset
1536 MB DDR SDRAM (Corsair, running at 200MHz)
ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256 MB
Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
Windows XP Home

for over two years now and it was perfectly stable through two video card
upgrades and even a sound card upgrade. Recently I bought some RAM for my
system, a gig to be exact. It was 512 MB before the upgrade. Since then I am
getting FREQUENT system shut downs due to "stop errors" and an "unknown
device driver". Micro$oft is unsure of what is causing the problem. Now this
stick of RAM is the same brand, Corsair, the same specs, almost identical to
the stick of 512, except its 1024. My BIOS is the latest out from Asus and I
keep my drivers updated. Any suggestions? If more info is needed, just ask,
I will provide as the need arises. TIA, all.

Hello Dave.
I have the same motherboard, and also upgraded the Ram to 1.5 Gb from 512
Mb. Crucial (256 Mb x 2) and Corsair Value
Select (512 Mb x 2).

Have you read your manual's Ram configuration info? You must!

Your motherboard supports up to 2 Gb of DDR 400 ram. This ram must be fitted
in exact pairs (same size, same type, same brand), using 2 slots per pair
(there are 4 slots). Note that the slots have 2 colours (2 slots of each),
and that you must use the right slot colours in conjunction with the correct
slot numbers.
I think that you can configure your ram differently (don't ask me), but it
won't be DDR ram.

Sylvain.



 
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Dave
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      29th Dec 2005
Ok, I found and read my Asus manual and I read something that caught my eye.

"Always install DIMMs with the same CAS latency. For optimum
compatibility..."

So I used AIDA32 to check out the CAS latencies. The 1024MB module Highest
CAS Latency is 3.0 and 2nd Highest CAS Latency is 2.5. The 512MB module
Highest is 2.5 and 2nd Highest is 2.0. I suspect this is my problem. Is
there anything I can do here??
"Sylvain VAN DER WALDE" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:daZsf.52358$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Dave" <da-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:OPLsf.12863$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, I've had my box
>
> Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
> Asus P4C800 Deluxe
> Intel Canterwood i875P Chipset
> 1536 MB DDR SDRAM (Corsair, running at 200MHz)
> ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256 MB
> Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
> Windows XP Home
>
> for over two years now and it was perfectly stable through two video card
> upgrades and even a sound card upgrade. Recently I bought some RAM for my
> system, a gig to be exact. It was 512 MB before the upgrade. Since then I
> am
> getting FREQUENT system shut downs due to "stop errors" and an "unknown
> device driver". Micro$oft is unsure of what is causing the problem. Now
> this
> stick of RAM is the same brand, Corsair, the same specs, almost identical
> to
> the stick of 512, except its 1024. My BIOS is the latest out from Asus and
> I
> keep my drivers updated. Any suggestions? If more info is needed, just
> ask,
> I will provide as the need arises. TIA, all.
>
> Hello Dave.
> I have the same motherboard, and also upgraded the Ram to 1.5 Gb from 512
> Mb. Crucial (256 Mb x 2) and Corsair Value
> Select (512 Mb x 2).
>
> Have you read your manual's Ram configuration info? You must!
>
> Your motherboard supports up to 2 Gb of DDR 400 ram. This ram must be
> fitted in exact pairs (same size, same type, same brand), using 2 slots
> per pair (there are 4 slots). Note that the slots have 2 colours (2 slots
> of each), and that you must use the right slot colours in conjunction with
> the correct slot numbers.
> I think that you can configure your ram differently (don't ask me), but it
> won't be DDR ram.
>
> Sylvain.
>
>
>



 
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Dave
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      29th Dec 2005
Well, I got this from my BIOS, maybe this will reveal something

DRAM CAS# Latency 2.0 Clocks
DRAM CAS# Precharge 2 clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 2 clocks
DRAM Precharge Delay 5 clocks
DRAM Burst Length 8 clocks

Those are the Settings. If you need more info, just ask.
"Dave" <da-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ItZsf.10711$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok, I found and read my Asus manual and I read something that caught my
> eye.
>
> "Always install DIMMs with the same CAS latency. For optimum
> compatibility..."
>
> So I used AIDA32 to check out the CAS latencies. The 1024MB module Highest
> CAS Latency is 3.0 and 2nd Highest CAS Latency is 2.5. The 512MB module
> Highest is 2.5 and 2nd Highest is 2.0. I suspect this is my problem. Is
> there anything I can do here??
> "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:daZsf.52358$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Dave" <da-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:OPLsf.12863$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi, I've had my box
>>
>> Intel Pentium 4HT, 2400 MHz (3 x 800)
>> Asus P4C800 Deluxe
>> Intel Canterwood i875P Chipset
>> 1536 MB DDR SDRAM (Corsair, running at 200MHz)
>> ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256 MB
>> Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
>> Windows XP Home
>>
>> for over two years now and it was perfectly stable through two video card
>> upgrades and even a sound card upgrade. Recently I bought some RAM for my
>> system, a gig to be exact. It was 512 MB before the upgrade. Since then I
>> am
>> getting FREQUENT system shut downs due to "stop errors" and an "unknown
>> device driver". Micro$oft is unsure of what is causing the problem. Now
>> this
>> stick of RAM is the same brand, Corsair, the same specs, almost identical
>> to
>> the stick of 512, except its 1024. My BIOS is the latest out from Asus
>> and I
>> keep my drivers updated. Any suggestions? If more info is needed, just
>> ask,
>> I will provide as the need arises. TIA, all.
>>
>> Hello Dave.
>> I have the same motherboard, and also upgraded the Ram to 1.5 Gb from 512
>> Mb. Crucial (256 Mb x 2) and Corsair Value
>> Select (512 Mb x 2).
>>
>> Have you read your manual's Ram configuration info? You must!
>>
>> Your motherboard supports up to 2 Gb of DDR 400 ram. This ram must be
>> fitted in exact pairs (same size, same type, same brand), using 2 slots
>> per pair (there are 4 slots). Note that the slots have 2 colours (2 slots
>> of each), and that you must use the right slot colours in conjunction
>> with the correct slot numbers.
>> I think that you can configure your ram differently (don't ask me), but
>> it won't be DDR ram.
>>
>> Sylvain.
>>
>>
>>

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Robert Hancock
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      29th Dec 2005
Dave wrote:
> Well, I got this from my BIOS, maybe this will reveal something
>
> DRAM CAS# Latency 2.0 Clocks


This is at least part of the problem. You have modules with rated CAS
latency of 2.5 and 3 and you are running at 2.0 which is too fast.

I assume this isn't set on automatic timings? If not, set it to "Auto"
or "By SPD" and see what that does.

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