I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I copy/paste it into
the MW document it gives me completely different symbol (some kind of
hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I would like to find out
if it is possible to add the character permanently to the list of symbols in
MW?

Thanks
Aleksey

I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the Character Map?

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>


alchemist wrote:
> I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I copy/paste
> it into the MW document it gives me completely different symbol (some
> kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I would
> like to find out if it is possible to add the character permanently
> to the list of symbols in MW?
>
> Thanks
> Aleksey

Sorry that's typo I created symbol in Private Character Editor and after that
they appear in Character Map from where you can copy/paste them.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

> I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the Character Map?
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
>
> alchemist wrote:
> > I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I copy/paste
> > it into the MW document it gives me completely different symbol (some
> > kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I would
> > like to find out if it is possible to add the character permanently
> > to the list of symbols in MW?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Aleksey
>
>
> .
>

If Private Character Editor assigns a Unicode value to your character,
then presumably Word is using the character that already has that
value. If that's how it works, then be sure to put your newly created
character into the Private Use Area of Unicode.

On Oct 30, 8:19*am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Sorry that's typo I created symbol in Private Character Editor and after that
> they appear in Character Map from where you can copy/paste them.
>
>
>
> "Graham Mayor" wrote:
> > I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the Character Map?
>
> > --
> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> > Graham Mayor - *Word MVP
>
> > My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> > Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> > alchemist wrote:
> > > I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I copy/paste
> > > it into the MW document it gives me completely different symbol (some
> > > kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I would
> > > like to find out if it is possible to add the character permanently
> > > to the list of symbols in MW?
>
> > > Thanks
> > > Aleksey

I suspect what you said is right, but the actual question is how to do it
MW2007? I could not find Private Use Area of Unicode in MW.

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

> If Private Character Editor assigns a Unicode value to your character,
> then presumably Word is using the character that already has that
> value. If that's how it works, then be sure to put your newly created
> character into the Private Use Area of Unicode.
>
> On Oct 30, 8:19 am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
> > Sorry that's typo I created symbol in Private Character Editor and after that
> > they appear in Character Map from where you can copy/paste them.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Graham Mayor" wrote:
> > > I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the Character Map?
> >
> > > --
> > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >
> > > My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> > > Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
> > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >
> > > alchemist wrote:
> > > > I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I copy/paste
> > > > it into the MW document it gives me completely different symbol (some
> > > > kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I would
> > > > like to find out if it is possible to add the character permanently
> > > > to the list of symbols in MW?
> >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Aleksey
> .
>

You've assigned your character to the PUA in some font. When you open
Insert Symbol and select that font (at the upper left), then choose
Private Use Area (upper right dropdown), and your character will
probably be the one it lands on. (Unless the font happens to have
other PUA characters in it, with lower code numbers!) You can then
click to use it, and/or you can assign a keyboard shortcut to it
(middle bottom).

On Oct 30, 2:31*pm, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I suspect what you said is right, but the actual question is how to do it
> MW2007? I could not find Private Use Area of Unicode in MW.
>
>
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > If Private Character Editor assigns a Unicode value to your character,
> > then presumably Word is using the character that already has that
> > value. If that's how it works, then be sure to put your newly created
> > character into the Private Use Area of Unicode.
>
> > On Oct 30, 8:19 am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Sorry that's typo I created symbol in Private Character Editor and after that
> > > they appear in Character Map from where you can copy/paste them.
>
> > > "Graham Mayor" wrote:
> > > > I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the Character Map?
>
> > > > --
> > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> > > > Graham Mayor - *Word MVP
>
> > > > My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> > > > Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
> > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> > > > alchemist wrote:
> > > > > I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I copy/paste
> > > > > it into the MW document it gives me completely different symbol (some
> > > > > kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I would
> > > > > like to find out if it is possible to add the character permanently
> > > > > to the list of symbols in MW?
>
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Aleksey

I have thought about that before but there is no such font in MW2007! or at
least in the one I have!

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

> You've assigned your character to the PUA in some font. When you open
> Insert Symbol and select that font (at the upper left), then choose
> Private Use Area (upper right dropdown), and your character will
> probably be the one it lands on. (Unless the font happens to have
> other PUA characters in it, with lower code numbers!) You can then
> click to use it, and/or you can assign a keyboard shortcut to it
> (middle bottom).
>
> On Oct 30, 2:31 pm, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
> > I suspect what you said is right, but the actual question is how to do it
> > MW2007? I could not find Private Use Area of Unicode in MW.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > > If Private Character Editor assigns a Unicode value to your character,
> > > then presumably Word is using the character that already has that
> > > value. If that's how it works, then be sure to put your newly created
> > > character into the Private Use Area of Unicode.
> >
> > > On Oct 30, 8:19 am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Sorry that's typo I created symbol in Private Character Editor and after that
> > > > they appear in Character Map from where you can copy/paste them.
> >
> > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote:
> > > > > I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the Character Map?
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> > > > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >
> > > > > My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> > > > > Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
> > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >
> > > > > alchemist wrote:
> > > > > > I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I copy/paste
> > > > > > it into the MW document it gives me completely different symbol (some
> > > > > > kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I would
> > > > > > like to find out if it is possible to add the character permanently
> > > > > > to the list of symbols in MW?
> >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Aleksey
> .
>

Now I don't know what Private Character Editor is, but if it creates a
typeable letter (as opposed to a graphics image), then it has placed
that character into some font or other -- and it must give you the
opportunity of choosing which font you want to add it to. (Perhaps the
font that's selected in Character Map while you're doing it?) Every
font accommodates characters from every range of Unicode (though most
fonts only happen to have characters in a few ranges), including the
Private Use Area, which is an immense collection of empty slots where
any individual can put whatever characters they want.

You've put your PCE-created character into a font, in a particular
slot. So to type that character, you need to select that font at the
point you're going to type, open Insert Symbol and scroll down
(probably to the very end) the display of characters, and there your
character should be. Double-click it, and it goes into your text. (You
can make a keyboard shortcut for it; also, it appears in the separate
bottom line of Insert Symbol so you won't have to hunt for it the next
time you need it.)

On Oct 31, 7:34*am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I have thought about that before but there is no such font in MW2007! or at
> least in the one I have!
>
>
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > You've assigned your character to the PUA in some font. When you open
> > Insert Symbol and select that font (at the upper left), then choose
> > Private Use Area (upper right dropdown), and your character will
> > probably be the one it lands on. (Unless the font happens to have
> > other PUA characters in it, with lower code numbers!) You can then
> > click to use it, and/or you can assign a keyboard shortcut to it
> > (middle bottom).
>
> > On Oct 30, 2:31 pm, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I suspect what you said is right, but the actual question is how to do it
> > > MW2007? I could not find Private Use Area of Unicode in MW.
>
> > > "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > > > If Private Character Editor assigns a Unicode value to your character,
> > > > then presumably Word is using the character that already has that
> > > > value. If that's how it works, then be sure to put your newly created
> > > > character into the Private Use Area of Unicode.
>
> > > > On Oct 30, 8:19 am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Sorry that's typo I created symbol in Private Character Editor and after that
> > > > > they appear in Character Map from where you can copy/paste them.
>
> > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote:
> > > > > > I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the Character Map?
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> > > > > > Graham Mayor - *Word MVP
>
> > > > > > My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> > > > > > Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
> > > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> > > > > > alchemist wrote:
> > > > > > > I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I copy/paste
> > > > > > > it into the MW document it gives me completely different symbol (some
> > > > > > > kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I would
> > > > > > > like to find out if it is possible to add the character permanently
> > > > > > > to the list of symbols in MW?
>
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Aleksey

It may be helpful to note that in Times New Roman, the range for private use
characters is F01E to F02C. The C fonts used in Word 2007 all have a much
more limited range and do not include private-use characters. It continues
to baffle me that MS would go to the trouble of creating all these
"beautiful" new fonts for Office 2007 and make them so much more limited
than TNR and Arial.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:f0e8bf3d-c33a-4524-b3e8-(E-Mail Removed)...
Now I don't know what Private Character Editor is, but if it creates a
typeable letter (as opposed to a graphics image), then it has placed
that character into some font or other -- and it must give you the
opportunity of choosing which font you want to add it to. (Perhaps the
font that's selected in Character Map while you're doing it?) Every
font accommodates characters from every range of Unicode (though most
fonts only happen to have characters in a few ranges), including the
Private Use Area, which is an immense collection of empty slots where
any individual can put whatever characters they want.

You've put your PCE-created character into a font, in a particular
slot. So to type that character, you need to select that font at the
point you're going to type, open Insert Symbol and scroll down
(probably to the very end) the display of characters, and there your
character should be. Double-click it, and it goes into your text. (You
can make a keyboard shortcut for it; also, it appears in the separate
bottom line of Insert Symbol so you won't have to hunt for it the next
time you need it.)

On Oct 31, 7:34 am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I have thought about that before but there is no such font in MW2007! or
> at
> least in the one I have!
>
>
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > You've assigned your character to the PUA in some font. When you open
> > Insert Symbol and select that font (at the upper left), then choose
> > Private Use Area (upper right dropdown), and your character will
> > probably be the one it lands on. (Unless the font happens to have
> > other PUA characters in it, with lower code numbers!) You can then
> > click to use it, and/or you can assign a keyboard shortcut to it
> > (middle bottom).
>
> > On Oct 30, 2:31 pm, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I suspect what you said is right, but the actual question is how to do
> > > it
> > > MW2007? I could not find Private Use Area of Unicode in MW.
>
> > > "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > > > If Private Character Editor assigns a Unicode value to your
> > > > character,
> > > > then presumably Word is using the character that already has that
> > > > value. If that's how it works, then be sure to put your newly
> > > > created
> > > > character into the Private Use Area of Unicode.
>
> > > > On Oct 30, 8:19 am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Sorry that's typo I created symbol in Private Character Editor and
> > > > > after that
> > > > > they appear in Character Map from where you can copy/paste them.
>
> > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote:
> > > > > > I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the
> > > > > > Character Map?
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> > > > > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> > > > > > My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> > > > > > Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
> > > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> > > > > > alchemist wrote:
> > > > > > > I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I
> > > > > > > copy/paste
> > > > > > > it into the MW document it gives me completely different
> > > > > > > symbol (some
> > > > > > > kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > like to find out if it is possible to add the character
> > > > > > > permanently
> > > > > > > to the list of symbols in MW?
>
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Aleksey

There are tens of thousands of slots for PUA characters. The primary
ones are the 6400 slots from E000 to F8FF (it may be that you're
restricted to these in Windows XP and Office2003). Beyond these,
Planes 15 and 16 are the "Supplementary Private Use Areas A and B,"
with 131,068 code points (Unicode 5.0 book, pp. 547-48; all Unicode
documentation is available at the unicode.org site, but it's organized
slightly less well than the Microsoft site).

On Oct 31, 9:33*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnh...@mvps.org> wrote:
> It may be helpful to note that in Times New Roman, the range for private use
> characters is F01E to F02C. The C fonts used in Word 2007 all have a much
> more limited range and do not include private-use characters. It continues
> to baffle me that MS would go to the trouble of creating all these
> "beautiful" new fonts for Office 2007 and make them so much more limited
> than TNR and Arial.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote in messagenews:f0e8bf3d-c33a-4524-b3e8-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Now I don't know what Private Character Editor is, but if it creates a
> typeable letter (as opposed to a graphics image), then it has placed
> that character into some font or other -- and it must give you the
> opportunity of choosing which font you want to add it to. (Perhaps the
> font that's selected in Character Map while you're doing it?) Every
> font accommodates characters from every range of Unicode (though most
> fonts only happen to have characters in a few ranges), including the
> Private Use Area, which is an immense collection of empty slots where
> any individual can put whatever characters they want.
>
> You've put your PCE-created character into a font, in a particular
> slot. So to type that character, you need to select that font at the
> point you're going to type, open Insert Symbol and scroll down
> (probably to the very end) the display of characters, and there your
> character should be. Double-click it, and it goes into your text. (You
> can make a keyboard shortcut for it; also, it appears in the separate
> bottom line of Insert Symbol so you won't have to hunt for it the next
> time you need it.)
>
> On Oct 31, 7:34 am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have thought about that before but there is no such font in MW2007! or
> > at
> > least in the one I have!
>
> > "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > > You've assigned your character to the PUA in some font. When you open
> > > Insert Symbol and select that font (at the upper left), then choose
> > > Private Use Area (upper right dropdown), and your character will
> > > probably be the one it lands on. (Unless the font happens to have
> > > other PUA characters in it, with lower code numbers!) You can then
> > > click to use it, and/or you can assign a keyboard shortcut to it
> > > (middle bottom).
>
> > > On Oct 30, 2:31 pm, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I suspect what you said is right, but the actual question is how todo
> > > > it
> > > > MW2007? I could not find Private Use Area of Unicode in MW.
>
> > > > "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > > > > If Private Character Editor assigns a Unicode value to your
> > > > > character,
> > > > > then presumably Word is using the character that already has that
> > > > > value. If that's how it works, then be sure to put your newly
> > > > > created
> > > > > character into the Private Use Area of Unicode.
>
> > > > > On Oct 30, 8:19 am, alchemist <alchem...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry that's typo I created symbol in Private Character Editor and
> > > > > > after that
> > > > > > they appear in Character Map from where you can copy/paste them..
>
> > > > > > "Graham Mayor" wrote:
> > > > > > > I wasn't aware that you could 'create' symbols using the
> > > > > > > Character Map?
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> > > > > > > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> > > > > > > My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> > > > > > > Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
> > > > > > > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
> > > > > > > alchemist wrote:
> > > > > > > > I created symbol/character using Character Map but when I
> > > > > > > > copy/paste
> > > > > > > > it into the MW document it gives me completely different
> > > > > > > > symbol (some
> > > > > > > > kind of hieroglyph). What can I do about it? Additionally, I
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > like to find out if it is possible to add the character
> > > > > > > > permanently
> > > > > > > > to the list of symbols in MW?
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Aleksey-