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Ǝиçεl
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Restart the computer into Safe Mode to then eradicate the pest
Safe mode prevents some, but by no means all--spyware services from running. It is an excellent way to get started if something is resistant to cleaning in normal mode, but it may not be all that is needed. In Safe mode try to remove it with Revo Uninstaller, then run CCleaner's registry cleaner. <http://www.revouninstaller.com/> Try in Tools -> Optimization -. Junk Files Cleaner – Scan - Delete <http://www.ccleaner.com> Note, uncheck Yahoos Toolbar Download the basic version via <http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds.aspx> The basic version does not contain the disgusted Toolbar "JimL" wrote: > XP Pro SP3 + every update I can get > > Recently, apparently after transplanting my system to a new HD, I've been > unable to remove a number of items via the Add or Remove feature. > > Currently I'm trying to remove CDBurnerXP Pro 3 so I can install the 4+ > version. Remove failed telling me I must insert the CDBurnerXP installation > CD in order to do that. I've never HAD such an installation CD. As an > alternative to the CD it allows a source file. I have an exe source. It > demands an msi source. > > On something else I tried recently it failed telling me it didn't have > access to the network from which it had been installed. I've never > installed anything from any network other than updates from the internet. > > What's going on here and what can be done about it? > > Thanks > > -- > JimL > > > > |
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So is it Revo or the registry cleaner that removes the dozens of entries an
installation often makes? Revo gets some and the cleaner gets the rest? Thanks "??ç?l" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:6D6D5F9E-BBA2-49CB-A3BC-(E-Mail Removed)... > Restart the computer into Safe Mode to then eradicate the pest > > Safe mode prevents some, but by no means all--spyware services from > running. > It is an excellent way to get started if something is resistant to > cleaning > in normal mode, but it may not be all that is needed. > > In Safe mode try to remove it with Revo Uninstaller, then run CCleaner's > registry cleaner. > > <http://www.revouninstaller.com/> > Try in Tools -> Optimization -. Junk Files Cleaner - Scan - Delete > > > <http://www.ccleaner.com> > Note, uncheck Yahoos Toolbar > > Download the basic version via > <http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds.aspx> > The basic version does not contain the disgusted Toolbar > > > "JimL" wrote: > >> XP Pro SP3 + every update I can get >> >> Recently, apparently after transplanting my system to a new HD, I've been >> unable to remove a number of items via the Add or Remove feature. >> >> Currently I'm trying to remove CDBurnerXP Pro 3 so I can install the 4+ >> version. Remove failed telling me I must insert the CDBurnerXP >> installation >> CD in order to do that. I've never HAD such an installation CD. As an >> alternative to the CD it allows a source file. I have an exe source. It >> demands an msi source. >> >> On something else I tried recently it failed telling me it didn't have >> access to the network from which it had been installed. I've never >> installed anything from any network other than updates from the internet. >> >> What's going on here and what can be done about it? >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> JimL >> >> >> >> -- JimL |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, "JimL" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote: > So is it Revo or the registry cleaner that removes the dozens of entries an > installation often makes? Revo gets some and the cleaner gets the rest? I don't anything about Revo or what it does, but let me address the question of leftover registry entries when you uninstall an application. Those leftover entries don't hurt you at all, and there should be no urge to remove them. You should especially *not* consider using a registry cleaner to remove them (or do anything else. Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may have. Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html > "??ç?l" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:6D6D5F9E-BBA2-49CB-A3BC-(E-Mail Removed)... > > Restart the computer into Safe Mode to then eradicate the pest > > > > Safe mode prevents some, but by no means all--spyware services from > > running. > > It is an excellent way to get started if something is resistant to > > cleaning > > in normal mode, but it may not be all that is needed. > > > > In Safe mode try to remove it with Revo Uninstaller, then run CCleaner's > > registry cleaner. > > > > <http://www.revouninstaller.com/> > > Try in Tools -> Optimization -. Junk Files Cleaner - Scan - Delete > > > > > > <http://www.ccleaner.com> > > Note, uncheck Yahoos Toolbar > > > > Download the basic version via > > <http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds.aspx> > > The basic version does not contain the disgusted Toolbar > > > > > > "JimL" wrote: > > > >> XP Pro SP3 + every update I can get > >> > >> Recently, apparently after transplanting my system to a new HD, I've been > >> unable to remove a number of items via the Add or Remove feature. > >> > >> Currently I'm trying to remove CDBurnerXP Pro 3 so I can install the 4+ > >> version. Remove failed telling me I must insert the CDBurnerXP > >> installation > >> CD in order to do that. I've never HAD such an installation CD. As an > >> alternative to the CD it allows a source file. I have an exe source. It > >> demands an msi source. > >> > >> On something else I tried recently it failed telling me it didn't have > >> access to the network from which it had been installed. I've never > >> installed anything from any network other than updates from the internet. > >> > >> What's going on here and what can be done about it? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> -- > >> JimL > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > JimL > > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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Twayne
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Watch out for this bozo and his self-serving closed minded
misinformation about registry cleaners. There are several good ones and as long as you get one from a reputable source, with proper backup and restore facilities, you should be fine. This individual and a few others like him have a vendetta against, and constantly libel and defame many good companies who produce useful and reliable products of good design. CCleaner is one such program that is often used and there are several others too. He's basically right in that a few leftover registry entries are not going to hurt anything but he is dead wrong with his allegations that all registry cleaners are bad and that there are no good ones. In additon to that, he thinks the ONLY reason people ever use a registry cleaner is to get rid of leftover, extraneious registry entries, which almost totally ignores all of the other functions such programs provide. He has never produced one single iota of information to back up his allegations against registry cleaners and only makes vague references to anyhing real, let alone any knowledgeable source of information on the subject except for their own self-serving edbott and aumha web sites written by ... guess who? Yup, the very same people spouting the same crap here in the groups. They only refer to one of two different websites as "support" for their contentions. But, of course, the members of their little group of idiots wrote the various parts of the articles they want you to see. Certainly if there were anything to that claim about registry cleaners, there would be hundreds if not thousands of supporting websites. But, there are not. The risk of a serious problem by erroneously removing a registry entry you need is so minimal with a good cleaner, especially one with restore capabilities, as to be no more likely to happen than when installing or uninstalling any other program on your computer or running any of the thousands of good programs that people download every day. If you download crap blindly, that's what you get. If you do so intelligently and with forethought, your chances of success are good. Many people use many different registry cleaners all the time and as in my case, have never had a single problem over more than a decade of using them. Notice that when that little group responds to my post here, that none of them will have any real backup for their allegations, they'll simply rationalize their way through, and maybe add a very biased link or two to back them up; usually links they had some part in writing, creating or otherwise supporting by having authored the major portions of them. There are enough intelligent and thinking people around that were their allegations of "snake oil" etc. of any value, there would be a stink so bad and so loud that not a single person would miss it and the companies would die out quickly. There would also be an endless stream os spam trying to sell their wares, but there aren't. Only the junkers get involved in spamming such wares. This supposed MVP will even tell you that it's "bad" that these companies hype and support their cleaner products with lot of praise and self-serving facts, but ... what company, including Microsoft and a thousand others doesn't do that? It's called free enterprise. You lucked out here and almost got a personal reply: Normally all these people, especially this one, do is push their pre-written boilerplate at you and attempt to make you feel small. To me, small is defined in one way as a closed mind with rationalized opinions without any serious backup or verification provisions. Not to mention the gigantic egoes and seriously narcissistic attitudes that go along with them. As always, I like to thank Ken for providing me the opportunity to expose him. Again. Thanks! HTH, Twayne` "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed) > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, "JimL" <(E-Mail Removed)> > wrote: > >> So is it Revo or the registry cleaner that removes the dozens of >> entries an installation often makes? Revo gets some and the cleaner >> gets the rest? > > > > I don't anything about Revo or what it does, but let me address the > question of leftover registry entries when you uninstall an > application. > > Those leftover entries don't hurt you at all, and there should be no > urge to remove them. You should especially *not* consider using a > registry cleaner to remove them (or do anything else. > > Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the > registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and > don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and > what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, > having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. > > The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously > removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit > it may have. > > Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html > > > > >> "??ç?l" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:6D6D5F9E-BBA2-49CB-A3BC-(E-Mail Removed)... >>> Restart the computer into Safe Mode to then eradicate the pest >>> >>> Safe mode prevents some, but by no means all--spyware services from >>> running. >>> It is an excellent way to get started if something is resistant to >>> cleaning >>> in normal mode, but it may not be all that is needed. >>> >>> In Safe mode try to remove it with Revo Uninstaller, then run >>> CCleaner's registry cleaner. >>> >>> <http://www.revouninstaller.com/> >>> Try in Tools -> Optimization -. Junk Files Cleaner - Scan - Delete >>> >>> >>> <http://www.ccleaner.com> >>> Note, uncheck Yahoos Toolbar >>> >>> Download the basic version via >>> <http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds.aspx> >>> The basic version does not contain the disgusted Toolbar >>> >>> >>> "JimL" wrote: >>> >>>> XP Pro SP3 + every update I can get >>>> >>>> Recently, apparently after transplanting my system to a new HD, >>>> I've been unable to remove a number of items via the Add or Remove >>>> feature. >>>> >>>> Currently I'm trying to remove CDBurnerXP Pro 3 so I can install >>>> the 4+ version. Remove failed telling me I must insert the >>>> CDBurnerXP installation >>>> CD in order to do that. I've never HAD such an installation CD. >>>> As an alternative to the CD it allows a source file. I have an >>>> exe source. It demands an msi source. >>>> >>>> On something else I tried recently it failed telling me it didn't >>>> have access to the network from which it had been installed. I've >>>> never installed anything from any network other than updates from >>>> the internet. >>>> >>>> What's going on here and what can be done about it? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -- >>>> JimL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> -- >> JimL |
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No sweat. I use snake oil in my car in place of regular motor oil!
"Twayne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > Watch out for this bozo and his self-serving closed minded misinformation > about registry cleaners. There are several good ones and as long as you > get one from a reputable source, with proper backup and restore > facilities, you should be fine. > This individual and a few others like him have a vendetta against, and > constantly libel and defame many good companies who produce useful and > reliable products of good design. > CCleaner is one such program that is often used and there are several > others too. > > He's basically right in that a few leftover registry entries are not going > to hurt anything but he is dead wrong with his allegations that all > registry cleaners are bad and that there are no good ones. In additon to > that, he thinks the ONLY reason people ever use a registry cleaner is to > get rid of leftover, extraneious registry entries, which almost totally > ignores all of the other functions such programs provide. > He has never produced one single iota of information to back up his > allegations against registry cleaners and only makes vague references to > anyhing real, let alone any knowledgeable source of information on the > subject except for their own self-serving edbott and aumha web sites > written by ... guess who? Yup, the very same people spouting the same > crap here in the groups. They only refer to one of two different websites > as "support" for their contentions. But, of course, the members of their > little group of idiots wrote the various parts of the articles they want > you to see. Certainly if there were anything to that claim about registry > cleaners, there would be hundreds if not thousands of supporting websites. > But, there are not. > > The risk of a serious problem by erroneously removing a registry entry you > need is so minimal with a good cleaner, especially one with restore > capabilities, as to be no more likely to happen than when installing or > uninstalling any other program on your computer or running any of the > thousands of good programs that people download every day. If you > download crap blindly, that's what you get. If you do so intelligently > and with forethought, your chances of success are good. Many people use > many different registry cleaners all the time and as in my case, have > never had a single problem over more than a decade of using them. > Notice that when that little group responds to my post here, that none > of them will have any real backup for their allegations, they'll simply > rationalize their way through, and maybe add a very biased link or two to > back them up; usually links they had some part in writing, creating or > otherwise supporting by having authored the major portions of them. > There are enough intelligent and thinking people around that were their > allegations of "snake oil" etc. of any value, there would be a stink so > bad and so loud that not a single person would miss it and the companies > would die out quickly. There would also be an endless stream os spam > trying to sell their wares, but there aren't. Only the junkers get > involved in spamming such wares. This supposed MVP will even tell you > that it's "bad" that these companies hype and support their cleaner > products with lot of praise and self-serving facts, but ... what company, > including Microsoft and a thousand others doesn't do that? It's called > free enterprise. > You lucked out here and almost got a personal reply: Normally all these > people, especially this one, do is push their pre-written boilerplate at > you and attempt to make you feel small. To me, small is defined in one > way as a closed mind with rationalized opinions without any serious backup > or verification provisions. Not to mention the gigantic egoes and > seriously narcissistic attitudes that go along with them. > > As always, I like to thank Ken for providing me the opportunity to expose > him. Again. > Thanks! > > HTH, > > Twayne` > > > > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:(E-Mail Removed) >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, "JimL" <(E-Mail Removed)> >> wrote: >> >>> So is it Revo or the registry cleaner that removes the dozens of >>> entries an installation often makes? Revo gets some and the cleaner >>> gets the rest? >> >> >> >> I don't anything about Revo or what it does, but let me address the >> question of leftover registry entries when you uninstall an >> application. >> >> Those leftover entries don't hurt you at all, and there should be no >> urge to remove them. You should especially *not* consider using a >> registry cleaner to remove them (or do anything else. >> >> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the >> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and >> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and >> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, >> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. >> >> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously >> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit >> it may have. >> >> Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html >> >> >> >> >>> "??ç?l" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >>> news:6D6D5F9E-BBA2-49CB-A3BC-(E-Mail Removed)... >>>> Restart the computer into Safe Mode to then eradicate the pest >>>> >>>> Safe mode prevents some, but by no means all--spyware services from >>>> running. >>>> It is an excellent way to get started if something is resistant to >>>> cleaning >>>> in normal mode, but it may not be all that is needed. >>>> >>>> In Safe mode try to remove it with Revo Uninstaller, then run >>>> CCleaner's registry cleaner. >>>> >>>> <http://www.revouninstaller.com/> >>>> Try in Tools -> Optimization -. Junk Files Cleaner - Scan - Delete >>>> >>>> >>>> <http://www.ccleaner.com> >>>> Note, uncheck Yahoos Toolbar >>>> >>>> Download the basic version via >>>> <http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds.aspx> >>>> The basic version does not contain the disgusted Toolbar >>>> >>>> >>>> "JimL" wrote: >>>> >>>>> XP Pro SP3 + every update I can get >>>>> >>>>> Recently, apparently after transplanting my system to a new HD, >>>>> I've been unable to remove a number of items via the Add or Remove >>>>> feature. >>>>> >>>>> Currently I'm trying to remove CDBurnerXP Pro 3 so I can install >>>>> the 4+ version. Remove failed telling me I must insert the >>>>> CDBurnerXP installation >>>>> CD in order to do that. I've never HAD such an installation CD. >>>>> As an alternative to the CD it allows a source file. I have an >>>>> exe source. It demands an msi source. >>>>> >>>>> On something else I tried recently it failed telling me it didn't >>>>> have access to the network from which it had been installed. I've >>>>> never installed anything from any network other than updates from >>>>> the internet. >>>>> >>>>> What's going on here and what can be done about it? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> JimL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> JimL > > > -- JimL |
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Twayne---The crippling of a computer by a registry cleaner
has been pointed out to you on many many occasions. Even I, have done that on three occasions. And, each time the evidence is presented to you, you ignore it. Then you always say 'not one iota of evidence has been presented' If you choose to screw up your system with trashy garbage that's your decision but, to entice others to perform your recklessness is evil. "Twayne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > Watch out for this bozo and his self-serving closed minded misinformation > about registry cleaners. There are several good ones and as long as you > get one from a reputable source, with proper backup and restore > facilities, you should be fine. > This individual and a few others like him have a vendetta against, and > constantly libel and defame many good companies who produce useful and > reliable products of good design. > CCleaner is one such program that is often used and there are several > others too. > > He's basically right in that a few leftover registry entries are not going > to hurt anything but he is dead wrong with his allegations that all > registry cleaners are bad and that there are no good ones. In additon to > that, he thinks the ONLY reason people ever use a registry cleaner is to > get rid of leftover, extraneious registry entries, which almost totally > ignores all of the other functions such programs provide. > He has never produced one single iota of information to back up his > allegations against registry cleaners and only makes vague references to > anyhing real, let alone any knowledgeable source of information on the > subject except for their own self-serving edbott and aumha web sites > written by ... guess who? Yup, the very same people spouting the same > crap here in the groups. They only refer to one of two different websites > as "support" for their contentions. But, of course, the members of their > little group of idiots wrote the various parts of the articles they want > you to see. Certainly if there were anything to that claim about registry > cleaners, there would be hundreds if not thousands of supporting websites. > But, there are not. > > The risk of a serious problem by erroneously removing a registry entry you > need is so minimal with a good cleaner, especially one with restore > capabilities, as to be no more likely to happen than when installing or > uninstalling any other program on your computer or running any of the > thousands of good programs that people download every day. If you > download crap blindly, that's what you get. If you do so intelligently > and with forethought, your chances of success are good. Many people use > many different registry cleaners all the time and as in my case, have > never had a single problem over more than a decade of using them. > Notice that when that little group responds to my post here, that none > of them will have any real backup for their allegations, they'll simply > rationalize their way through, and maybe add a very biased link or two to > back them up; usually links they had some part in writing, creating or > otherwise supporting by having authored the major portions of them. > There are enough intelligent and thinking people around that were their > allegations of "snake oil" etc. of any value, there would be a stink so > bad and so loud that not a single person would miss it and the companies > would die out quickly. There would also be an endless stream os spam > trying to sell their wares, but there aren't. Only the junkers get > involved in spamming such wares. This supposed MVP will even tell you > that it's "bad" that these companies hype and support their cleaner > products with lot of praise and self-serving facts, but ... what company, > including Microsoft and a thousand others doesn't do that? It's called > free enterprise. > You lucked out here and almost got a personal reply: Normally all these > people, especially this one, do is push their pre-written boilerplate at > you and attempt to make you feel small. To me, small is defined in one > way as a closed mind with rationalized opinions without any serious backup > or verification provisions. Not to mention the gigantic egoes and > seriously narcissistic attitudes that go along with them. > > As always, I like to thank Ken for providing me the opportunity to expose > him. Again. > Thanks! > > HTH, > > Twayne` > > > > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:(E-Mail Removed) >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, "JimL" <(E-Mail Removed)> >> wrote: >> >>> So is it Revo or the registry cleaner that removes the dozens of >>> entries an installation often makes? Revo gets some and the cleaner >>> gets the rest? >> >> >> >> I don't anything about Revo or what it does, but let me address the >> question of leftover registry entries when you uninstall an >> application. >> >> Those leftover entries don't hurt you at all, and there should be no >> urge to remove them. You should especially *not* consider using a >> registry cleaner to remove them (or do anything else. >> >> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the >> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and >> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and >> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, >> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. >> >> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously >> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit >> it may have. >> >> Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html >> >> >> >> >>> "??ç?l" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >>> news:6D6D5F9E-BBA2-49CB-A3BC-(E-Mail Removed)... >>>> Restart the computer into Safe Mode to then eradicate the pest >>>> >>>> Safe mode prevents some, but by no means all--spyware services from >>>> running. >>>> It is an excellent way to get started if something is resistant to >>>> cleaning >>>> in normal mode, but it may not be all that is needed. >>>> >>>> In Safe mode try to remove it with Revo Uninstaller, then run >>>> CCleaner's registry cleaner. >>>> >>>> <http://www.revouninstaller.com/> >>>> Try in Tools -> Optimization -. Junk Files Cleaner - Scan - Delete >>>> >>>> >>>> <http://www.ccleaner.com> >>>> Note, uncheck Yahoos Toolbar >>>> >>>> Download the basic version via >>>> <http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds.aspx> >>>> The basic version does not contain the disgusted Toolbar >>>> >>>> >>>> "JimL" wrote: >>>> >>>>> XP Pro SP3 + every update I can get >>>>> >>>>> Recently, apparently after transplanting my system to a new HD, >>>>> I've been unable to remove a number of items via the Add or Remove >>>>> feature. >>>>> >>>>> Currently I'm trying to remove CDBurnerXP Pro 3 so I can install >>>>> the 4+ version. Remove failed telling me I must insert the >>>>> CDBurnerXP installation >>>>> CD in order to do that. I've never HAD such an installation CD. >>>>> As an alternative to the CD it allows a source file. I have an >>>>> exe source. It demands an msi source. >>>>> >>>>> On something else I tried recently it failed telling me it didn't >>>>> have access to the network from which it had been installed. I've >>>>> never installed anything from any network other than updates from >>>>> the internet. >>>>> >>>>> What's going on here and what can be done about it? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> JimL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> JimL > > > |
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"JimL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:h5vr6u$ld8$(E-Mail Removed) > No sweat. I use snake oil in my car in place of regular motor oil! lol, good one! Think it'd work in my '55 Ford Fairlane? Cheers, Twayne` |
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"philo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:gJOdnXrsab-(E-Mail Removed) > Twayne wrote: >> Watch out for this bozo and his self-serving closed minded >> misinformation about registry cleaners. There are several good ones >> and as long as you get one from a reputable source, with proper >> backup and restore facilities, you should be fine. >> This individual and a few others like him have a vendetta against, >> and constantly libel and defame many good companies who produce >> useful and reliable products of good design. > <snip> > > Caution: this person is a know troll > > I have been getting nothing but superior advice from Ken Blake for > something like ten years now. Then you haven't been reading his pitches on "snake oil" and ALL registry cleaners for one. HTH, Twayne` |
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"Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) > Twayne---The crippling of a computer by a registry cleaner > has been pointed out to you on many many occasions. Sure, I should believe the vague references to it, just like I should believe the MVP who told me something was so because he "said so" when I asked for clarification way back before he became such a closed mind over a few subjects. Even I, > have done that on three occasions. And, each time the evidence > is presented to you, you ignore it. Yup, sure you have. That's just another vague reference, as usual. Also I often don't read YOUR posts because you seldom have anything useful to say. > Then you always say 'not one iota of evidence has been presented' > If you choose to screw up your system with trashy garbage that's > your decision but, to entice others to perform your recklessness > is evil. Woops! You addressed the wrong person there; that was ment for the closed minds, I'm certain. I'd change my mind quickly if anyone ever provided any believable support or proof of the allegations of you sock puppets and your fantASStic leaders. All I can say is, I am in a large majority of people who use reputable registry cleaners with good to excellent and results and have never botched a system, any system, with one. The worst case outcomes I ever had was that no problems were found. HTH, Twayne` > "Twayne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> Watch out for this bozo and his self-serving closed minded >> misinformation about registry cleaners. There are several good ones >> and as long as you get one from a reputable source, with proper >> backup and restore facilities, you should be fine. >> This individual and a few others like him have a vendetta against, >> and constantly libel and defame many good companies who produce >> useful and reliable products of good design. >> CCleaner is one such program that is often used and there are >> several others too. >> >> He's basically right in that a few leftover registry entries are not >> going to hurt anything but he is dead wrong with his allegations >> that all registry cleaners are bad and that there are no good ones. >> In additon to that, he thinks the ONLY reason people ever use a >> registry cleaner is to get rid of leftover, extraneious registry >> entries, which almost totally ignores all of the other functions >> such programs provide. He has never produced one single iota of >> information to back up his allegations against registry cleaners and >> only makes vague references to anyhing real, let alone any >> knowledgeable source of information on the subject except for their >> own self-serving edbott and aumha web sites written by ... guess >> who? Yup, the very same people spouting the same crap here in the >> groups. They only refer to one of two different websites as >> "support" for their contentions. But, of course, the members of >> their little group of idiots wrote the various parts of the articles >> they want you to see. Certainly if there were anything to that >> claim about registry cleaners, there would be hundreds if not >> thousands of supporting websites. But, there are not. The risk of a >> serious problem by erroneously removing a registry >> entry you need is so minimal with a good cleaner, especially one >> with restore capabilities, as to be no more likely to happen than >> when installing or uninstalling any other program on your computer >> or running any of the thousands of good programs that people >> download every day. If you download crap blindly, that's what you >> get. If you do so intelligently and with forethought, your chances >> of success are good. Many people use many different registry >> cleaners all the time and as in my case, have never had a single >> problem over more than a decade of using them. Notice that when >> that little group responds to my post here, that none of them will >> have any real backup for their allegations, they'll >> simply rationalize their way through, and maybe add a very biased >> link or two to back them up; usually links they had some part in >> writing, creating or otherwise supporting by having authored the >> major portions of them. There are enough intelligent and thinking >> people around that were their allegations of "snake oil" etc. of any >> value, there would be a stink so bad and so loud that not a single >> person would miss it and the companies would die out quickly. There >> would also be an endless stream os spam trying to sell their wares, >> but there aren't. Only the junkers get involved in spamming such >> wares. This supposed MVP will even tell you that it's "bad" that >> these companies hype and support their cleaner products with lot of >> praise and self-serving facts, but ... what company, including >> Microsoft and a thousand others doesn't do that? It's called free >> enterprise. You lucked out here and almost got a personal reply: >> Normally all these people, especially this one, do is push their >> pre-written boilerplate at you and attempt to make you feel small. To >> me, small is defined in one way as a closed mind with >> rationalized opinions without any serious backup or verification >> provisions. Not to mention the gigantic egoes and seriously >> narcissistic attitudes that go along with them. As always, I like to >> thank Ken for providing me the opportunity to >> expose him. Again. >> Thanks! >> >> HTH, >> >> Twayne` >> >> >> >> >> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:(E-Mail Removed) >>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, "JimL" >>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >>> >>>> So is it Revo or the registry cleaner that removes the dozens of >>>> entries an installation often makes? Revo gets some and the >>>> cleaner gets the rest? >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't anything about Revo or what it does, but let me address the >>> question of leftover registry entries when you uninstall an >>> application. >>> >>> Those leftover entries don't hurt you at all, and there should be no >>> urge to remove them. You should especially *not* consider using a >>> registry cleaner to remove them (or do anything else. >>> >>> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the >>> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and >>> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and >>> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, >>> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. >>> >>> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner >>> erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any >>> potential benefit it may have. >>> >>> Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> "??ç?l" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >>>> news:6D6D5F9E-BBA2-49CB-A3BC-(E-Mail Removed)... >>>>> Restart the computer into Safe Mode to then eradicate the pest >>>>> >>>>> Safe mode prevents some, but by no means all--spyware services >>>>> from running. >>>>> It is an excellent way to get started if something is resistant to >>>>> cleaning >>>>> in normal mode, but it may not be all that is needed. >>>>> >>>>> In Safe mode try to remove it with Revo Uninstaller, then run >>>>> CCleaner's registry cleaner. >>>>> >>>>> <http://www.revouninstaller.com/> >>>>> Try in Tools -> Optimization -. Junk Files Cleaner - Scan - Delete >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <http://www.ccleaner.com> >>>>> Note, uncheck Yahoos Toolbar >>>>> >>>>> Download the basic version via >>>>> <http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds.aspx> >>>>> The basic version does not contain the disgusted Toolbar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "JimL" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> XP Pro SP3 + every update I can get >>>>>> >>>>>> Recently, apparently after transplanting my system to a new HD, >>>>>> I've been unable to remove a number of items via the Add or >>>>>> Remove feature. >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently I'm trying to remove CDBurnerXP Pro 3 so I can install >>>>>> the 4+ version. Remove failed telling me I must insert the >>>>>> CDBurnerXP installation >>>>>> CD in order to do that. I've never HAD such an installation CD. >>>>>> As an alternative to the CD it allows a source file. I have an >>>>>> exe source. It demands an msi source. >>>>>> >>>>>> On something else I tried recently it failed telling me it didn't >>>>>> have access to the network from which it had been installed. I've >>>>>> never installed anything from any network other than >>>>>> updates from the internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> What's going on here and what can be done about it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> JimL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> JimL |
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