Hi - I have an ethernet LAN, with a Speedstream 2601 router/hub feeding several machines. I want to use a Microsoft MN-510 wireless USB adaptor to ad-hoc network to my laptop, with ORiNOCO silver PC card. I've gotten it to work - occasionally, and only for a while. The XP wizards have been useless. I've disabled bridges, changed the 2601 router from its default 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.254.254 (or should I change it to 192.168.0.254?), enabled ICS, disabled firewalls, WEP, used the DOSbox and ipconfig et al more than one person should etc., and lots more. sigh...

I'm ready to punt

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. A wireless router is not a consideration. I have one in the shop. Besides, this has become personal. IronMan against The Evil Machine Of Doom, Blue Screens, And Crash Reports

-mike curti

"IronmanC com>" <ironmanNOSPAM@ironmanYUMMYSPAMcurtis<dot> wrote in message
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> Hi - I have an ethernet LAN, with a Speedstream 2601 router/hub feeding
several machines. I want to use a Microsoft MN-510 wireless USB adaptor to
ad-hoc network to my laptop, with ORiNOCO silver PC card. I've gotten it to
work - occasionally, and only for a while. The XP wizards have been
useless. I've disabled bridges, changed the 2601 router from its default
192.168.0.1 to 192.168.254.254 (or should I change it to 192.168.0.254?),
enabled ICS, disabled firewalls, WEP, used the DOSbox and ipconfig et al
more than one person should etc., and lots more. sigh....
>
> I'm ready to punt.
>
> Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. A wireless router is not
a consideration. I have one in the shop. Besides, this has become
personal. IronMan against The Evil Machine Of Doom, Blue Screens, And Crash
Reports.
>
>
> -mike curtis
>
Hi Mike,
Im a bit tentative of replying because you said in a previous post that
you've been networking since the 80's.
If I were trying to do what you are....
Dump ICS as it will compete with your router.
Leave the router on 192.168.0.1 and enable DHCP
A network bridge is necessary between the wireless card and your NIC.
Never use xps firewall and disable anyone elses while you get the system
working.
Turn off power management on the cards.


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In article <011ED7D5-4B27-4DB6-B6B9-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"IronmanC com>" <ironmanNOSPAM@ironmanYUMMYSPAMcurtis<dot> wrote:
>Hi - I have an ethernet LAN, with a Speedstream 2601 router/hub feeding several machines. I want to use a Microsoft MN-510 wireless USB adaptor to ad-hoc network to my laptop, with ORiNOCO silver PC card. I've gotten it to work - occasionally, and only for a while. The XP wizards have been useless. I've disabled bridges, changed the 2601 router from its default 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.254.254 (or should I change it to 192.168.0.254?), enabled ICS, disabled firewalls, WEP, used the DOSbox and ipconfig et al more than one person should etc., and lots more. sigh....
>
>I'm ready to punt.
>
>Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. A wireless router is not a consideration. I have one in the shop. Besides, this has become personal. IronMan against The Evil Machine Of Doom, Blue Screens, And Crash Reports.
>
>
> -mike curtis

Download and install the latest driver programs for both wireless
network adapters.

Since ICS uses the 192.168.0.x/255.255.255.0 subnet, change the
Speedstream router to use 192.168.y.x/255.255.255.0, where y<>0.
192.168.254.x is fine.

Enable Internet Connection Sharing on the main computer's connection
to the Speedstream router. Don't let it create a network bridge. If
it asks, tell it to use the MN-510 wireless connection for the home
network.

Set the two wireless network adapters to Ad-Hoc mode, specifying the
same SSID and channel number on both. Disable WEP encryption while
setting up the network, and don't enable it until everything is
working.

Disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on all network connections.
The router acts as a firewall, protecting the whole network from
access by other Internet users.

If that's all working properly, the laptop should get a 192.168.0.x IP
address from the main computer's DHCP allocator.
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> If that's all working properly, the laptop should get a 192.168.0.x IP
> address from the main computer's DHCP allocator.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Hi Steve,
Please. For purpose of educating me, as my solution was so different to
yours, would you tell me why ICS is to be enabled in this situation where
there's already a router? I believed that creating a bridge between the nic
and wireless card would enable the laptop to connect into the regular LAN in
adhoc mode.
thanks






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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "CheshireCat"
<(E-Mail Removed)0m> wrote:
>>>Hi - I have an ethernet LAN, with a Speedstream 2601 router/hub
>feeding several machines. I want to use a Microsoft MN-510 wireless
>USB adaptor to ad-hoc network to my laptop, with ORiNOCO silver PC
>card. I've gotten it to work - occasionally, and only for a while. The XP
>wizards have been useless. I've disabled bridges, changed the 2601
>router from its default 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.254.254 (or should I
>change it to 192.168.0.254?), enabled ICS, disabled firewalls, WEP,
>used the DOSbox and ipconfig et al more than one person should etc.,
>and lots more. sigh....
>>>
>>>I'm ready to punt.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. A wireless router
>is not a consideration. I have one in the shop. Besides, this has become
>personal. IronMan against The Evil Machine Of Doom, Blue Screens,
>And Crash Reports.
>>
>>Download and install the latest driver programs for both wireless
>>network adapters.
>>
>>Since ICS uses the 192.168.0.x/255.255.255.0 subnet, change the
>>Speedstream router to use 192.168.y.x/255.255.255.0, where y<>0.
>>192.168.254.x is fine.
>>
>>Enable Internet Connection Sharing on the main computer's connection
>>to the Speedstream router. Don't let it create a network bridge. If
>>it asks, tell it to use the MN-510 wireless connection for the home
>>network.
>>
>>Set the two wireless network adapters to Ad-Hoc mode, specifying the
>>same SSID and channel number on both. Disable WEP encryption while
>>setting up the network, and don't enable it until everything is
>>working.
>>
>>Disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on all network connections.
>>The router acts as a firewall, protecting the whole network from
>>access by other Internet users.
>>
>>If that's all working properly, the laptop should get a 192.168.0.x IP
>>address from the main computer's DHCP allocator.
>
>Hi Steve,
>Please. For purpose of educating me, as my solution was so different to
>yours, would you tell me why ICS is to be enabled in this situation where
>there's already a router? I believed that creating a bridge between the nic
>and wireless card would enable the laptop to connect into the regular LAN in
>adhoc mode.
>thanks

Mike's question was about "Ad-hoc ICS", and that's how I answered. I
didn't even think of the network bridge solution that you gave, which
I blush to admit, since I've written a web page on the topic:

XP ICS - Network Bridge
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm

If Mike's wired and wireless network cards support bridging, your
solution is much better than mine, "CheshireCat".
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> Mike's question was about "Ad-hoc ICS", and that's how I answered. I
> didn't even think of the network bridge solution that you gave, which
> I blush to admit, since I've written a web page on the topic:
>
> XP ICS - Network Bridge
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm
>
> If Mike's wired and wireless network cards support bridging, your
> solution is much better than mine, "CheshireCat".

Thank you for replying Steve, it show's you're more observant than I but it
also spares my blushes over a possible wrong answer on my part.


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