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Frog
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      17th Feb 2008
I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it.
The computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD
player in it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I
previously used on my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:

Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems
to have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I
don't think I would ever use any of this expanded capability.

Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?

Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk
for this purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and
running?

I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not
dependent on having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive
stopped working and I had to start over with a new hard drive). That
tells me that I should either put my backup on CDs or an external hard
drive specifically for this purpose. Do any of you have thoughts on how
to best accomplish my goal?

Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy
disk? I believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is
the case.

I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations
that any of you might have on this subject.



Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
Frog




 
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philo
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      17th Feb 2008

"Frog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it.
> The computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD
> player in it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I
> previously used on my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:
>
> Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
> research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems
> to have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I
> don't think I would ever use any of this expanded capability.
>
> Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
> separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?
>
> Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk
> for this purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and
> running?
>
> I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not
> dependent on having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive
> stopped working and I had to start over with a new hard drive). That
> tells me that I should either put my backup on CDs or an external hard
> drive specifically for this purpose. Do any of you have thoughts on how
> to best accomplish my goal?
>
> Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy
> disk? I believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is
> the case.
>
> I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations
> that any of you might have on this subject.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
> Frog
>
>
>
>


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David Webb
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      17th Feb 2008
Acronis TrueImage v7.0 is fully compatible with Windows XP.

If you've purchased the program on a CD, it will already be bootable. You can
also create bootable media during or after the installation. For this, you will
need a CD-R/RW blank, five formatted diskettes (or two for the safe variant), or
any other media your PC can boot from, such as a Zip drive.

FWIW, I use Acronis True Image monthly, to backup all of my drives/partitions
to a 160 GB drive mounted in an external USB enclosure. Any of these backups can
be easily restored, even in the case of a failed system drive, by using the
rescue CD.

I've used Acronis v7.0 to successfully backup and restore images of Win2K Pro
and WinXP Pro systems.

I now use v11.0.

Hope this helps.

"Frog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it. The
> computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD player in
> it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I previously used on
> my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:
>
> Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
> research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems to
> have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I don't think I
> would ever use any of this expanded capability.
>
> Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
> separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?
>
> Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk for this
> purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and running?
>
> I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not dependent on
> having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive stopped working and I had
> to start over with a new hard drive). That tells me that I should either put
> my backup on CDs or an external hard drive specifically for this purpose. Do
> any of you have thoughts on how to best accomplish my goal?
>
> Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy disk? I
> believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is the case.
>
> I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations that any
> of you might have on this subject.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
> Frog
>
>
>
>



 
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Bill in Co.
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      17th Feb 2008
David Webb wrote:
> Acronis TrueImage v7.0 is fully compatible with Windows XP.
>
> If you've purchased the program on a CD, it will already be bootable. You
> can
> also create bootable media during or after the installation. For this, you
> will need a CD-R/RW blank, five formatted diskettes (or two for the safe
> variant), or any other media your PC can boot from, such as a Zip drive.
>
> FWIW, I use Acronis True Image monthly, to backup all of my
> drives/partitions
> to a 160 GB drive mounted in an external USB enclosure. Any of these
> backups
> can be easily restored, even in the case of a failed system drive, by
> using
> the rescue CD.
>
> I've used Acronis v7.0 to successfully backup and restore images of Win2K
> Pro
> and WinXP Pro systems.
>
> I now use v11.0.



Same here (backing up C: to an external IDE drive). And have restored it,
on occasion, using the Acronis CD (which is really nice - didn't need to
create one).

But I've always wondered, in addition to restoring the system partition C:,
is it ever necessary to restore the MBR and Track 0 (also presented as
options in Acronis)?

(I have a Dell, and the system is on the second partition of my HD - Dell
uses the first and third for its own stuff) Shouldn't the MBR also be
restored from the backup too? (apparently not, as I've gotten away without
doing it)



> Hope this helps.
>
> "Frog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it. The
>> computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD player
>> in
>> it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I previously
>> used
>> on my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:
>>
>> Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
>> research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems
>> to
>> have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I don't
>> think
>> I would ever use any of this expanded capability.
>>
>> Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
>> separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?
>>
>> Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk for
>> this purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and running?
>>
>> I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not
>> dependent on
>> having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive stopped working and
>> I
>> had to start over with a new hard drive). That tells me that I should
>> either put my backup on CDs or an external hard drive specifically for
>> this
>> purpose. Do any of you have thoughts on how to best accomplish my goal?
>>
>> Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy disk?
>> I
>> believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is the case.
>>
>> I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations that
>> any
>> of you might have on this subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
>> Frog



 
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Kris
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      17th Feb 2008
Do one check: boot up the "recovery CD" and make sure it can see all your
hard drives, both for the partitions and the image files you have backed
up. I had a situation where on a particular mobo, I needed to use 11 to
see my sata drives, whereas a different mobo (I forget which) only needed
8.

I use 11 TI for my stuff, but used 8 for a long time. Damn thing works!
In ancient history I used ghost and previous to that used PQDI. Acronis TI
is better.

email them and tell them yyou have 7 and ask them if they'll give you a
break on an upgrade.



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:34:45 -0500, David Webb wrote:

> Acronis TrueImage v7.0 is fully compatible with Windows XP.
>
> If you've purchased the program on a CD, it will already be bootable. You can
> also create bootable media during or after the installation. For this, you will
> need a CD-R/RW blank, five formatted diskettes (or two for the safe variant), or
> any other media your PC can boot from, such as a Zip drive.
>
> FWIW, I use Acronis True Image monthly, to backup all of my drives/partitions
> to a 160 GB drive mounted in an external USB enclosure. Any of these backups can
> be easily restored, even in the case of a failed system drive, by using the
> rescue CD.
>
> I've used Acronis v7.0 to successfully backup and restore images of Win2K Pro
> and WinXP Pro systems.
>
> I now use v11.0.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> "Frog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it. The
>> computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD player in
>> it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I previously used on
>> my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:
>>
>> Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
>> research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems to
>> have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I don't think I
>> would ever use any of this expanded capability.
>>
>> Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
>> separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?
>>
>> Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk for this
>> purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and running?
>>
>> I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not dependent on
>> having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive stopped working and I had
>> to start over with a new hard drive). That tells me that I should either put
>> my backup on CDs or an external hard drive specifically for this purpose. Do
>> any of you have thoughts on how to best accomplish my goal?
>>
>> Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy disk? I
>> believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is the case.
>>
>> I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations that any
>> of you might have on this subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
>> Frog
>>
>>
>>
>>



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Lil' Dave
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      17th Feb 2008
"Frog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it. The
> computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD player
> in it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I previously
> used on my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:
>
> Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
> research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems to
> have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I don't
> think I would ever use any of this expanded capability.
>
> Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
> separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?
>
> Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk for
> this purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and running?
>
> I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not dependent
> on having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive stopped working
> and I had to start over with a new hard drive). That tells me that I
> should either put my backup on CDs or an external hard drive specifically
> for this purpose. Do any of you have thoughts on how to best accomplish
> my goal?
>
> Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy disk?
> I believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is the case.
>
> I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations that
> any of you might have on this subject.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
> Frog
>
>
>
>


Probably the question you should be asking Acronis is if version 7 will be
able to access whatever you're saving your image file to for restoration.
That is from boot media of Acronis 7.
Dave


 
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Stan
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      17th Feb 2008
Go to ugr.com and check out the entire website run by Gene Barlow. He is
fantastic in his advice and help and he will sell you Acronis 11 for $29. I
bought Acronis 10 and later Acronis 11 and recommend him highly. He is a rep
for many utilities you might be interested in. Good Luck. Stan
"Frog" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it. The
> computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD player
> in it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I previously
> used on my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:
>
> Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
> research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems to
> have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I don't
> think I would ever use any of this expanded capability.
>
> Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
> separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?
>
> Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk for
> this purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and running?
>
> I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not dependent
> on having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive stopped working
> and I had to start over with a new hard drive). That tells me that I
> should either put my backup on CDs or an external hard drive specifically
> for this purpose. Do any of you have thoughts on how to best accomplish
> my goal?
>
> Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy disk?
> I believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is the case.
>
> I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations that
> any of you might have on this subject.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
> Frog
>
>
>
>



 
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Frog
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      18th Feb 2008
Thanks you one and all for your responses.

Here is what I think I have learned about Acronis and XP from your
responses:

1. Acronis 7 is compatible with the Windows XP operating system.

2. I did not purchase Acronis 7 on a CD...I downloaded it when it was
offered for free. I am not sure whether the version that I have, which
I used on my old 98SE system, can be loaded onto a second computer.

3. I understand that my purchase of Acronis 11 would give me a bootable
CD...a capability that would be nice to have if restoring my system
became necessary.

4. It seems that there are several places one could store Acronis-
produced backups, but that an external hard drive system seems to be the
best solution for storing backups.

5. That I should check to see if my Acronis backup system works before
it becomes necessary to restore files and/or my system.

6. That I should email the people at Acronis to see if they will give me
a break on upgrading to Version 11.

7. That ugr.com will sell me a copy of Acronis 11 for $29.

Did I miss anything in my highlights?

I think I will upgrade my 30GB external hard drive for a 500GB
hard drive. I will use this external hard drive for my system backups.


QUESTION HERE---Is it best to put my backups on a separate partition or
is it okay to have one big partition with many folders, one of which
would be for system backups?

I also think I should purchase a new version of Acronis for use on my
new XP computer.

Again, thanks for all of the responses/recommendations/help...it
was all very much appreciated.

Frog


 
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usasma
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      18th Feb 2008
I've been using Acronis True Image since v7 and it works quite well on all my
XP systems. At times I prefer it to v11 because it seems (to me) to be
faster (although some of the "tricks" in the later versions make restoring
much faster).

It's better to store your backups on and external hard drive - but backing
up to DVD is also an option (although you'll end up using several DVD's each
time). DO NOT save it to your hard drive. If the hard drive dies, so do
your images!!! The only exception to this is if the computer will only run
v7 in it's Safe Mode when booting from the disk (and then it won't access USB
devices). This happened with my Toshiba M45 laptop.

I prefer booting from the Acronis boot CD and making the images from there.
That way there's nothing interfering with the process. I'm a bit leary of
imaging my OS partition while the OS is running (although I have done it) - I
worry about file access issues.

Finally, the best advice I've heard is to test the image. Don't assume that
it's good, even though it's been verified. Test it to be sure - that way you
won't be surprised when you need it.

- John

"Frog" wrote:

> I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it.
> The computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD
> player in it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I
> previously used on my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:
>
> Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
> research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems
> to have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I
> don't think I would ever use any of this expanded capability.
>
> Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
> separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?
>
> Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk
> for this purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and
> running?
>
> I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not
> dependent on having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive
> stopped working and I had to start over with a new hard drive). That
> tells me that I should either put my backup on CDs or an external hard
> drive specifically for this purpose. Do any of you have thoughts on how
> to best accomplish my goal?
>
> Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy
> disk? I believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is
> the case.
>
> I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations
> that any of you might have on this subject.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
> Frog
>
>
>
>
>

 
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Anna
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      18th Feb 2008

> "Frog" wrote:
>
>> I have a new computer that has Windows XP software loaded on it.
>> The computer includes a floppy drive (A drive) and a read/write CD/DVD
>> player in it. I also have a copy of Acronis 7 backup software that I
>> previously used on my old Windows 98SE system. Now, for my questions:
>>
>> Is Acronis 7 compatible with a Windows XP machine? I think, based on my
>> research on the Web, that it is compatible. The newer version 11 seems
>> to have many new whistles and bells included in the software, but I
>> don't think I would ever use any of this expanded capability.
>>
>> Secondly, is it better to have my backups on my hard drive (E Drive) or
>> separate CDs? What are the pros and cons associated with both options?
>>
>> Is it better to make the backups using an Acronis startup floppy disk
>> for this purpose or use the software on the system once it is up and
>> running?
>>
>> I would really like to be able to have a backup that is not
>> dependent on having a working hard drive (say that the hard drive
>> stopped working and I had to start over with a new hard drive). That
>> tells me that I should either put my backup on CDs or an external hard
>> drive specifically for this purpose. Do any of you have thoughts on how
>> to best accomplish my goal?
>>
>> Lastly, will Windows XP recognize an Acronis 7 startup floppy
>> disk? I believe that it will, but I need some reassurance that that is
>> the case.
>>
>> I would like to hear any other thoughts and/or recommendations
>> that any of you might have on this subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help sent my way on this subject.
>> Frog



"usasma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:F40CF432-EDC8-460D-8603-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've been using Acronis True Image since v7 and it works quite well on all
> my
> XP systems. At times I prefer it to v11 because it seems (to me) to be
> faster (although some of the "tricks" in the later versions make restoring
> much faster).
>
> It's better to store your backups on and external hard drive - but backing
> up to DVD is also an option (although you'll end up using several DVD's
> each
> time). DO NOT save it to your hard drive. If the hard drive dies, so do
> your images!!! The only exception to this is if the computer will only
> run
> v7 in it's Safe Mode when booting from the disk (and then it won't access
> USB
> devices). This happened with my Toshiba M45 laptop.
>
> I prefer booting from the Acronis boot CD and making the images from
> there.
> That way there's nothing interfering with the process. I'm a bit leary of
> imaging my OS partition while the OS is running (although I have done
> it) - I
> worry about file access issues.
>
> Finally, the best advice I've heard is to test the image. Don't assume
> that
> it's good, even though it's been verified. Test it to be sure - that way
> you
> won't be surprised when you need it.
>
> - John



Frog:
First of all, let me say at the outset that by & large the recent versions
of Acronis True Image are basically fine programs as many of the responders
to your query have indicated.

As a computer technician/consultant we've worked with a wide variety of disk
cloning/disk imaging programs involving perhaps thousands of PC systems &
users. Up until a few years ago our favorite disk-cloning program in an XP
environment was Symantec's Norton Ghost 2003 version. We found the general
simplicity, straightforwardness, and most of all, effectiveness of this
program as a disk-cloning utility most appealing as long as the program was
being used through its bootable floppy disk containing the Ghost program
(and not through the Windows GUI). We found later versions of the Ghost
program - specifically versions 9 & 10 unacceptable for a variety of
reasons.

We began working with the Acronis program, like you, starting with version
7. While the program generally worked as it should we found too many
anomalies in both that version and the following version 8 to recommend it
wholeheartedly to our users. (I realize our experience with that program (at
least with respect to version 7), apparently differs from the experiences of
the other responders to your query who were, and are, apparently favorably
disposed toward that version. In any event, we did find the following
versions 9 & 10 sufficiently improved so that we did recommend the ATI
program to users. (We haven't worked with version 11 to any degree but from
the little experience we've had with that program I suspect it's not too
different from the previous 9 & 10 versions).

The disk-cloning program that we now strongly prefer is the Casper 4.0
program (http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/trial/). It's extremely
simple to use even for an inexperienced user, reasonably quick in operation,
and quite effective. There's virtually no learning curve in undertaking the
disk cloning process as one navigates through the few easy-to-understand
screens with a final mouse-click on the button on the screen which will
trigger the disk-cloning process. After undertaking one or two disk-cloning
operations it should take the user no more than 20 seconds or so to get to
that point.

The significant advantage of the Casper 4.0 disk cloning program compared
with other disk cloning programs that we're familiar with, e.g., Acronis
True Image or Symantec's Norton Ghost, is its ability to create
*incremental* disk clones following the creation of the original (first)
disk clone. Employing what Casper calls its "SmartClone" technology the
program can create subsequent disk clones of the source HDD usually at a
fraction of the time it takes to create a "full" disk clone. This results in
a decided incentive for the user to undertake frequent complete backups of
his or her system knowing that they can create "incremental" disk clones in
a relatively short period of time.

The Casper 4.0 program is also capable of scheduling the disk-cloning
process on a daily, weekly, or other time period selected by the user so
that you could arrange for automatic backups at pre-determined times.

There's a trial version available (see above link) although it's somewhat
crippled but it will give you a good idea as to how the program works. And I
can provide further details about using the program should you be
interested.

The downside to the Casper 4 program as compared with the Acronis and most
other disk-cloning programs is the cost of the program which comes to $49.95
for the program + $9.95 for the "Casper Startup Disk" (the program to create
the bootable CD containing the Casper program). So it's more expensive than
the others. But in our view, well worth the additional cost. AFAIK, the
program is available only through download from the developer.

All of the above is predicated on the basis that you're seeking a reliable
program to backup your *entire* day-to-day booting HDD, including the XP OS,
all your programs & applications, and your user-created data. And you want a
simple-to-use program to do this on a systematic routine basis reasonably
quickly & effectively. To that end we've found this Casper 4.0 program
really fills the bill.

As to your query about using CDs or even DVDs for comprehensive backup
purposes - I would really advise against your doing so. And, as "usasma" has
indicated, it's never a wise idea to store a "disk image" on the same
physical drive you're backing up. (I should point out at this time that the
Casper program is designed only for disk-cloning, not disk imaging). You
would be so much better to use an external USB or Firewire external HDD as
the recipient of the disk clone. You might even want to consider the
recipient HDD to be an internal secondary HDD installed in your machine (I
assume you're working with a desktop machine). Having an external HDD
containing the backup copy of your system obviously gives you a greater
sense of security since the device would ordinarily be disconnected from the
machine following the disk-cloning operation.

Anyway, if you're more comfortable with the Acronis program, so be it. But
at least take a look at the Casper program and compare the two from the
point-of-view of your objectives.
Anna


 
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