PC Review


Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread

ACPI laptop loses time

 
 
=?Utf-8?B?VG9tIFMu?=
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      6th Oct 2006
Greetings,

My system loses time whenever in standby or hibernate, not at a minute lost
per minute off rate, but some fraction of that. Perfect time kept if
shutdown or always on.

No unresolved event log errors that look related.
Most recent manufacturer system BIOS in use.

Synchronization fails silently after resuming. Date & Time | Update Time
returns successfully synchronized but the incorrect time is still there.
Restarting the windows time service and repeating the update returns correct
synchronization.

Anybody else seen this? Fixed this?

TIA,
Tom S.

Centrino 1.6 w/ 1GB RAM 52GB XP partition on 100GB disk
XP Pro SP2 + all current MS Update patches
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080010, 2005-02-24
time server 0.us.pool.ntp.org


 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Yves Leclerc
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      6th Oct 2006
Check the CMOS battery. This is usually a sign that the battery is getting
weak and would need replacing.



On 05/10/2006 Tom S. <Tom S.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>My system loses time whenever in standby or hibernate, not at a minute lost
>per minute off rate, but some fraction of that. Perfect time kept if
>shutdown or always on.
>
>No unresolved event log errors that look related.
>Most recent manufacturer system BIOS in use.
>
>Synchronization fails silently after resuming. Date & Time | Update Time
>returns successfully synchronized but the incorrect time is still there.
>Restarting the windows time service and repeating the update returns correct
>synchronization.
>
>Anybody else seen this? Fixed this?
>
>TIA,
>Tom S.
>
>Centrino 1.6 w/ 1GB RAM 52GB XP partition on 100GB disk
>XP Pro SP2 + all current MS Update patches
>BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080010, 2005-02-24
>time server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
>
>


--
---

Y.

 
Reply With Quote
 
=?Utf-8?B?VG9tIFMu?=
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      6th Oct 2006
Yves, thanks for the response.

Please note that the laptop keeps perfect time when the CMOS battery is in
use when the system is off. Only when it is in a power-saving state does it
lose time.

Additionally, this laptop was fully refurbished in August 2006. A weak CMOS
is unlikely, but not impossible.

"Yves Leclerc" wrote:

> Check the CMOS battery. This is usually a sign that the battery is getting
> weak and would need replacing.
>
> On 05/10/2006 Tom S. <Tom S.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >Greetings,
> >
> >My system loses time whenever in standby or hibernate, not at a minute lost
> >per minute off rate, but some fraction of that. Perfect time kept if
> >shutdown or always on.
> >
> >No unresolved event log errors that look related.
> >Most recent manufacturer system BIOS in use.
> >
> >Synchronization fails silently after resuming. Date & Time | Update Time
> >returns successfully synchronized but the incorrect time is still there.
> >Restarting the windows time service and repeating the update returns correct
> >synchronization.
> >
> >Anybody else seen this? Fixed this?
> >
> >TIA,
> >Tom S.
> >
> >Centrino 1.6 w/ 1GB RAM 52GB XP partition on 100GB disk
> >XP Pro SP2 + all current MS Update patches
> >BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080010, 2005-02-24
> >time server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
> >

 
Reply With Quote
 
Bob I
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      9th Oct 2006
"Power saving mode"? You mean "standby"? My guess is the proper
motherboard drivers aren't installed during the "refurb", or some
software is interfering.

Tom S. wrote:

> Yves, thanks for the response.
>
> Please note that the laptop keeps perfect time when the CMOS battery is in
> use when the system is off. Only when it is in a power-saving state does it
> lose time.
>
> Additionally, this laptop was fully refurbished in August 2006. A weak CMOS
> is unlikely, but not impossible.
>
> "Yves Leclerc" wrote:
>
>
>>Check the CMOS battery. This is usually a sign that the battery is getting
>>weak and would need replacing.
>>
>>On 05/10/2006 Tom S. <Tom S.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>My system loses time whenever in standby or hibernate, not at a minute lost
>>>per minute off rate, but some fraction of that. Perfect time kept if
>>>shutdown or always on.
>>>
>>>No unresolved event log errors that look related.
>>>Most recent manufacturer system BIOS in use.
>>>
>>>Synchronization fails silently after resuming. Date & Time | Update Time
>>>returns successfully synchronized but the incorrect time is still there.
>>>Restarting the windows time service and repeating the update returns correct
>>>synchronization.
>>>
>>>Anybody else seen this? Fixed this?
>>>
>>>TIA,
>>>Tom S.
>>>
>>>Centrino 1.6 w/ 1GB RAM 52GB XP partition on 100GB disk
>>>XP Pro SP2 + all current MS Update patches
>>>BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080010, 2005-02-24
>>>time server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
>>>


 
Reply With Quote
 
=?Utf-8?B?VG9tIFMu?=
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      9th Oct 2006
Bob,

Thanks for your suggestions.

"Power saving state" to mean either stand-by or hibernate.

I received bare, refurbished replacement hardware for broken equipment under
warranty. I did the XP Professional install, then chipset drivers,
peripherals, one by one, then applications. No errors or question marks in
Device Manager. System log is clean. I've installed everything since DOS
2.x. I absolutely could have made a mistake, but I'm not seeing it.

Looks like hardware or driver to me, but so far everything checks out.
Maybe I'll redo the chipset drivers again. But that's just guessing.

Tom S.

"Bob I" wrote:

> "Power saving mode"? You mean "standby"? My guess is the proper
> motherboard drivers aren't installed during the "refurb", or some
> software is interfering.
>
> Tom S. wrote:
>
> > Yves, thanks for the response.
> >
> > Please note that the laptop keeps perfect time when the CMOS battery is in
> > use when the system is off. Only when it is in a power-saving state does it
> > lose time.
> >
> > Additionally, this laptop was fully refurbished in August 2006. A weak CMOS
> > is unlikely, but not impossible.
> >
> > "Yves Leclerc" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Check the CMOS battery. This is usually a sign that the battery is getting
> >>weak and would need replacing.
> >>
> >>On 05/10/2006 Tom S. <Tom S.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Greetings,
> >>>
> >>>My system loses time whenever in standby or hibernate, not at a minute lost
> >>>per minute off rate, but some fraction of that. Perfect time kept if
> >>>shutdown or always on.
> >>>
> >>>No unresolved event log errors that look related.
> >>>Most recent manufacturer system BIOS in use.
> >>>
> >>>Synchronization fails silently after resuming. Date & Time | Update Time
> >>>returns successfully synchronized but the incorrect time is still there.
> >>>Restarting the windows time service and repeating the update returns correct
> >>>synchronization.
> >>>
> >>>Anybody else seen this? Fixed this?
> >>>
> >>>TIA,
> >>>Tom S.
> >>>
> >>>Centrino 1.6 w/ 1GB RAM 52GB XP partition on 100GB disk
> >>>XP Pro SP2 + all current MS Update patches
> >>>BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080010, 2005-02-24
> >>>time server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
> >>>

>
>

 
Reply With Quote
 
Bob I
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      10th Oct 2006
Was it identical to what was replaced or is it different model
motherboard? Also are there any BIOS updates for that unit from the
laptop manufacturer?

Tom S. wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
>
> "Power saving state" to mean either stand-by or hibernate.
>
> I received bare, refurbished replacement hardware for broken equipment under
> warranty. I did the XP Professional install, then chipset drivers,
> peripherals, one by one, then applications. No errors or question marks in
> Device Manager. System log is clean. I've installed everything since DOS
> 2.x. I absolutely could have made a mistake, but I'm not seeing it.
>
> Looks like hardware or driver to me, but so far everything checks out.
> Maybe I'll redo the chipset drivers again. But that's just guessing.
>
> Tom S.
>
> "Bob I" wrote:
>
>
>>"Power saving mode"? You mean "standby"? My guess is the proper
>>motherboard drivers aren't installed during the "refurb", or some
>>software is interfering.
>>
>>Tom S. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yves, thanks for the response.
>>>
>>>Please note that the laptop keeps perfect time when the CMOS battery is in
>>>use when the system is off. Only when it is in a power-saving state does it
>>>lose time.
>>>
>>>Additionally, this laptop was fully refurbished in August 2006. A weak CMOS
>>>is unlikely, but not impossible.
>>>
>>>"Yves Leclerc" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Check the CMOS battery. This is usually a sign that the battery is getting
>>>>weak and would need replacing.
>>>>
>>>>On 05/10/2006 Tom S. <Tom S.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>>My system loses time whenever in standby or hibernate, not at a minute lost
>>>>>per minute off rate, but some fraction of that. Perfect time kept if
>>>>>shutdown or always on.
>>>>>
>>>>>No unresolved event log errors that look related.
>>>>>Most recent manufacturer system BIOS in use.
>>>>>
>>>>>Synchronization fails silently after resuming. Date & Time | Update Time
>>>>>returns successfully synchronized but the incorrect time is still there.
>>>>>Restarting the windows time service and repeating the update returns correct
>>>>>synchronization.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anybody else seen this? Fixed this?
>>>>>
>>>>>TIA,
>>>>>Tom S.
>>>>>
>>>>>Centrino 1.6 w/ 1GB RAM 52GB XP partition on 100GB disk
>>>>>XP Pro SP2 + all current MS Update patches
>>>>>BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080010, 2005-02-24
>>>>>time server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
>>>>>

>>
>>


 
Reply With Quote
 
=?Utf-8?B?VG9tIFMu?=
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      10th Oct 2006
Bob,

"Bob I" wrote:

> Was it identical to what was replaced or is it different model
> motherboard?

The description part numbers are the same MPC Corp NBK 1838-01, down to the
model suffix. I didn't disassemble to check any silkscreening on the boards.

> Also are there any BIOS updates for that unit from the
> laptop manufacturer?
>

Pleasantly enough, the replacement system shipped with a BIOS that hadn't
even been released on the manufacturer's website. That BIOS was publicly
released a few weeks later.

Good suggestions so far. Maybe I'll dig up the release notes for the
current BIOS and see if there is anything too terrible and roll back a
version. I don't usually like to do that. Alternatively, I could figure out
how to increase the frequency that the system does a time update to daily
instead of weekly.

Thanks,
Tom

> Tom S. wrote:
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions.
> >
> > "Power saving state" to mean either stand-by or hibernate.
> >
> > I received bare, refurbished replacement hardware for broken equipment under
> > warranty. I did the XP Professional install, then chipset drivers,
> > peripherals, one by one, then applications. No errors or question marks in
> > Device Manager. System log is clean. I've installed everything since DOS
> > 2.x. I absolutely could have made a mistake, but I'm not seeing it.
> >
> > Looks like hardware or driver to me, but so far everything checks out.
> > Maybe I'll redo the chipset drivers again. But that's just guessing.
> >
> > Tom S.
> >
> > "Bob I" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Power saving mode"? You mean "standby"? My guess is the proper
> >>motherboard drivers aren't installed during the "refurb", or some
> >>software is interfering.
> >>
> >>Tom S. wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Yves, thanks for the response.
> >>>
> >>>Please note that the laptop keeps perfect time when the CMOS battery is in
> >>>use when the system is off. Only when it is in a power-saving state does it
> >>>lose time.
> >>>
> >>>Additionally, this laptop was fully refurbished in August 2006. A weak CMOS
> >>>is unlikely, but not impossible.
> >>>
> >>>"Yves Leclerc" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Check the CMOS battery. This is usually a sign that the battery is getting
> >>>>weak and would need replacing.
> >>>>
> >>>>On 05/10/2006 Tom S. <Tom S.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Greetings,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>My system loses time whenever in standby or hibernate, not at a minute lost
> >>>>>per minute off rate, but some fraction of that. Perfect time kept if
> >>>>>shutdown or always on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No unresolved event log errors that look related.
> >>>>>Most recent manufacturer system BIOS in use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Synchronization fails silently after resuming. Date & Time | Update Time
> >>>>>returns successfully synchronized but the incorrect time is still there.
> >>>>>Restarting the windows time service and repeating the update returns correct
> >>>>>synchronization.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Anybody else seen this? Fixed this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>TIA,
> >>>>>Tom S.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Centrino 1.6 w/ 1GB RAM 52GB XP partition on 100GB disk
> >>>>>XP Pro SP2 + all current MS Update patches
> >>>>>BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080010, 2005-02-24
> >>>>>time server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>

>
>

 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Re: Laptop Freezes - ACPI Error John Windows Vista Hardware 0 16th Feb 2009 07:08 PM
Re: Laptop Freezes - ACPI Error Malke Windows Vista Hardware 3 14th Feb 2009 05:32 AM
Adjust monitor brightness without using the function keys on laptop...ACPI? goldtech DIY PC 2 24th Jun 2008 07:51 PM
override laptop fan speed with acpi Kevin Windows XP Hardware 6 20th Apr 2006 09:20 AM
Laptop Clock Loses time. =?Utf-8?B?QW5kcmV3?= Windows XP General 1 3rd Jan 2006 01:39 PM


Features
 

Advertising
 

Newsgroups
 


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:34 PM.