are there any recommendations pro or con regarding any of the products that
turn up when you google the subject heading?

thanks for any advice in advance,

-ted

Why do you ask?

I use one to dig me out of holes every now and again. I won't use any unless
there is a very good reason to do so, as there are passwords/security for a
reason. The sad thing for me is most of them work, it does make a mockery of
the user level security.


--
Regards

Alex White MCDBA MCSE
http://www.intralan.co.uk

"Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:CB7B3580-46DA-4AA9-842F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> are there any recommendations pro or con regarding any of the products
> that
> turn up when you google the subject heading?
>
> thanks for any advice in advance,
>
> -ted

may i ask why you bothered to 'respond'? seriously. if you had prefaced it w/
the caveat that went something like 'assuming you have no recourse but to use
one of these fiendish mockeries of all things 'secure', then i would
say.......' then i might've rated your response as helpful. was it not
supposed to be?

regards,

-ted

"Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:

> Why do you ask?
>
> I use one to dig me out of holes every now and again. I won't use any unless
> there is a very good reason to do so, as there are passwords/security for a
> reason. The sad thing for me is most of them work, it does make a mockery of
> the user level security.
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> http://www.intralan.co.uk
>
> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:CB7B3580-46DA-4AA9-842F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > are there any recommendations pro or con regarding any of the products
> > that
> > turn up when you google the subject heading?
> >
> > thanks for any advice in advance,
> >
> > -ted
>
>
>

Hi Ted,

The reason for my response was simple I was giving you the idea that they do
the job, but being a network security specialist in my job it would be
completely un-professional to describe on a open forum how to break through
a security system, and I will not be drawn on that, sorry if you are
offended by my response as that was not my intention at all, if your post
was in response to you having a legitimate problem with a lost password I
was trying to give you a bit of hope.

All the best...

--
Regards

Alex White MCDBA MCSE
http://www.intralan.co.uk

"Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:AAD94159-B9C4-4987-84DA-(E-Mail Removed)...
> may i ask why you bothered to 'respond'? seriously. if you had prefaced it
> w/
> the caveat that went something like 'assuming you have no recourse but to
> use
> one of these fiendish mockeries of all things 'secure', then i would
> say.......' then i might've rated your response as helpful. was it not
> supposed to be?
>
> regards,
>
> -ted
>
> "Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:
>
>> Why do you ask?
>>
>> I use one to dig me out of holes every now and again. I won't use any
>> unless
>> there is a very good reason to do so, as there are passwords/security for
>> a
>> reason. The sad thing for me is most of them work, it does make a mockery
>> of
>> the user level security.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
>> http://www.intralan.co.uk
>>
>> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:CB7B3580-46DA-4AA9-842F-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > are there any recommendations pro or con regarding any of the products
>> > that
>> > turn up when you google the subject heading?
>> >
>> > thanks for any advice in advance,
>> >
>> > -ted
>>
>>
>>

alex,

thanks for all the good intentions. thank the www for making the existence
of this class of software the bane of your existence. a few choice words in a
search engine and a world of a2k password recovery software awaits one. we
have lost the password to an mdb file and are going this way as a last
resort.

regards,

-ted


"Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:

> Hi Ted,
>
> The reason for my response was simple I was giving you the idea that they do
> the job, but being a network security specialist in my job it would be
> completely un-professional to describe on a open forum how to break through
> a security system, and I will not be drawn on that, sorry if you are
> offended by my response as that was not my intention at all, if your post
> was in response to you having a legitimate problem with a lost password I
> was trying to give you a bit of hope.
>
> All the best...
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> http://www.intralan.co.uk
>
> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:AAD94159-B9C4-4987-84DA-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > may i ask why you bothered to 'respond'? seriously. if you had prefaced it
> > w/
> > the caveat that went something like 'assuming you have no recourse but to
> > use
> > one of these fiendish mockeries of all things 'secure', then i would
> > say.......' then i might've rated your response as helpful. was it not
> > supposed to be?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > -ted
> >
> > "Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:
> >
> >> Why do you ask?
> >>
> >> I use one to dig me out of holes every now and again. I won't use any
> >> unless
> >> there is a very good reason to do so, as there are passwords/security for
> >> a
> >> reason. The sad thing for me is most of them work, it does make a mockery
> >> of
> >> the user level security.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> >> http://www.intralan.co.uk
> >>
> >> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:CB7B3580-46DA-4AA9-842F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > are there any recommendations pro or con regarding any of the products
> >> > that
> >> > turn up when you google the subject heading?
> >> >
> >> > thanks for any advice in advance,
> >> >
> >> > -ted
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Email me directly and I will help you.

--
Regards

Alex White MCDBA MCSE
http://www.intralan.co.uk

"Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news4262443-09CC-4E4E-875E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> alex,
>
> thanks for all the good intentions. thank the www for making the existence
> of this class of software the bane of your existence. a few choice words
> in a
> search engine and a world of a2k password recovery software awaits one. we
> have lost the password to an mdb file and are going this way as a last
> resort.
>
> regards,
>
> -ted
>
>
> "Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:
>
>> Hi Ted,
>>
>> The reason for my response was simple I was giving you the idea that they
>> do
>> the job, but being a network security specialist in my job it would be
>> completely un-professional to describe on a open forum how to break
>> through
>> a security system, and I will not be drawn on that, sorry if you are
>> offended by my response as that was not my intention at all, if your post
>> was in response to you having a legitimate problem with a lost password I
>> was trying to give you a bit of hope.
>>
>> All the best...
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
>> http://www.intralan.co.uk
>>
>> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:AAD94159-B9C4-4987-84DA-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > may i ask why you bothered to 'respond'? seriously. if you had prefaced
>> > it
>> > w/
>> > the caveat that went something like 'assuming you have no recourse but
>> > to
>> > use
>> > one of these fiendish mockeries of all things 'secure', then i would
>> > say.......' then i might've rated your response as helpful. was it not
>> > supposed to be?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> >
>> > -ted
>> >
>> > "Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why do you ask?
>> >>
>> >> I use one to dig me out of holes every now and again. I won't use any
>> >> unless
>> >> there is a very good reason to do so, as there are passwords/security
>> >> for
>> >> a
>> >> reason. The sad thing for me is most of them work, it does make a
>> >> mockery
>> >> of
>> >> the user level security.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
>> >> http://www.intralan.co.uk
>> >>
>> >> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:CB7B3580-46DA-4AA9-842F-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > are there any recommendations pro or con regarding any of the
>> >> > products
>> >> > that
>> >> > turn up when you google the subject heading?
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks for any advice in advance,
>> >> >
>> >> > -ted
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

i will _if_ our first strategy tanks.

best regards,

-ted


"Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:

> Email me directly and I will help you.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> http://www.intralan.co.uk
>
> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news4262443-09CC-4E4E-875E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > alex,
> >
> > thanks for all the good intentions. thank the www for making the existence
> > of this class of software the bane of your existence. a few choice words
> > in a
> > search engine and a world of a2k password recovery software awaits one. we
> > have lost the password to an mdb file and are going this way as a last
> > resort.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > -ted
> >
> >
> > "Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ted,
> >>
> >> The reason for my response was simple I was giving you the idea that they
> >> do
> >> the job, but being a network security specialist in my job it would be
> >> completely un-professional to describe on a open forum how to break
> >> through
> >> a security system, and I will not be drawn on that, sorry if you are
> >> offended by my response as that was not my intention at all, if your post
> >> was in response to you having a legitimate problem with a lost password I
> >> was trying to give you a bit of hope.
> >>
> >> All the best...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> >> http://www.intralan.co.uk
> >>
> >> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:AAD94159-B9C4-4987-84DA-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > may i ask why you bothered to 'respond'? seriously. if you had prefaced
> >> > it
> >> > w/
> >> > the caveat that went something like 'assuming you have no recourse but
> >> > to
> >> > use
> >> > one of these fiendish mockeries of all things 'secure', then i would
> >> > say.......' then i might've rated your response as helpful. was it not
> >> > supposed to be?
> >> >
> >> > regards,
> >> >
> >> > -ted
> >> >
> >> > "Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Why do you ask?
> >> >>
> >> >> I use one to dig me out of holes every now and again. I won't use any
> >> >> unless
> >> >> there is a very good reason to do so, as there are passwords/security
> >> >> for
> >> >> a
> >> >> reason. The sad thing for me is most of them work, it does make a
> >> >> mockery
> >> >> of
> >> >> the user level security.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> >> >> http://www.intralan.co.uk
> >> >>
> >> >> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:CB7B3580-46DA-4AA9-842F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > are there any recommendations pro or con regarding any of the
> >> >> > products
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > turn up when you google the subject heading?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thanks for any advice in advance,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -ted
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

If I may give an instance of why.
I have been in the habit of having my developers change the .mdb extention
to .txt when then neede to e-mail a database to another developer. Worked
fine until we went to Outlook 2003 and let it apply the most current security
enhancements. Now after you save the database attachment out of the e-mail
(database.txt) to database.mdb and try to open it, it prompts for a password.
Even though no password was ever applied.! I gather that Access percieves
that Outlook opened or tried to open it as a txt file. AGRUGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!
There are ligmiate reasons to e-mail an .mdb file, even though Microsoft
dosen't seem to think so.
So I guess I will have to look for one of the above apps. to be able to do
this.

"Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:

> Email me directly and I will help you.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> http://www.intralan.co.uk
>
> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news4262443-09CC-4E4E-875E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > alex,
> >
> > thanks for all the good intentions. thank the www for making the existence
> > of this class of software the bane of your existence. a few choice words
> > in a
> > search engine and a world of a2k password recovery software awaits one. we
> > have lost the password to an mdb file and are going this way as a last
> > resort.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > -ted
> >
> >
> > "Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ted,
> >>
> >> The reason for my response was simple I was giving you the idea that they
> >> do
> >> the job, but being a network security specialist in my job it would be
> >> completely un-professional to describe on a open forum how to break
> >> through
> >> a security system, and I will not be drawn on that, sorry if you are
> >> offended by my response as that was not my intention at all, if your post
> >> was in response to you having a legitimate problem with a lost password I
> >> was trying to give you a bit of hope.
> >>
> >> All the best...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> >> http://www.intralan.co.uk
> >>
> >> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:AAD94159-B9C4-4987-84DA-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > may i ask why you bothered to 'respond'? seriously. if you had prefaced
> >> > it
> >> > w/
> >> > the caveat that went something like 'assuming you have no recourse but
> >> > to
> >> > use
> >> > one of these fiendish mockeries of all things 'secure', then i would
> >> > say.......' then i might've rated your response as helpful. was it not
> >> > supposed to be?
> >> >
> >> > regards,
> >> >
> >> > -ted
> >> >
> >> > "Alex White MCDBA MCSE" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Why do you ask?
> >> >>
> >> >> I use one to dig me out of holes every now and again. I won't use any
> >> >> unless
> >> >> there is a very good reason to do so, as there are passwords/security
> >> >> for
> >> >> a
> >> >> reason. The sad thing for me is most of them work, it does make a
> >> >> mockery
> >> >> of
> >> >> the user level security.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Alex White MCDBA MCSE
> >> >> http://www.intralan.co.uk
> >> >>
> >> >> "Ted" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:CB7B3580-46DA-4AA9-842F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > are there any recommendations pro or con regarding any of the
> >> >> > products
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > turn up when you google the subject heading?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thanks for any advice in advance,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -ted
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

kermit wrote:
> If I may give an instance of why.
> I have been in the habit of having my developers change the .mdb
> extention to .txt when then neede to e-mail a database to another
> developer. Worked fine until we went to Outlook 2003 and let it
> apply the most current security enhancements. Now after you save the
> database attachment out of the e-mail (database.txt) to database.mdb
> and try to open it, it prompts for a password. Even though no
> password was ever applied.! I gather that Access percieves that
> Outlook opened or tried to open it as a txt file.
> AGRUGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! There are ligmiate reasons to e-mail an .mdb
> file, even though Microsoft dosen't seem to think so.
> So I guess I will have to look for one of the above apps. to be able
> to do this.

Asking for a password when none was ever applied is a form of corruption
(non-recoverable AFAIK). One known way for this to happen is to open the
file in another program (Word, Excel, etc.,) and make a change and then
save. My guess is that the equivelant of this is happening to your file
when you change the extension to txt and then Email it.

I do something similar when Emailing these files but I choose a nonsense
extension rather than one that will be a recognized file-type. I have had
no problems with that strategy.

--
I don't check the Email account attached
to this message. Send instead to...
RBrandt at Hunter dot com

Oh THANK YOU! the xzt extension worked!

"Rick Brandt" wrote:

> kermit wrote:
> > If I may give an instance of why.
> > I have been in the habit of having my developers change the .mdb
> > extention to .txt when then neede to e-mail a database to another
> > developer. Worked fine until we went to Outlook 2003 and let it
> > apply the most current security enhancements. Now after you save the
> > database attachment out of the e-mail (database.txt) to database.mdb
> > and try to open it, it prompts for a password. Even though no
> > password was ever applied.! I gather that Access percieves that
> > Outlook opened or tried to open it as a txt file.
> > AGRUGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! There are ligmiate reasons to e-mail an .mdb
> > file, even though Microsoft dosen't seem to think so.
> > So I guess I will have to look for one of the above apps. to be able
> > to do this.
>
> Asking for a password when none was ever applied is a form of corruption
> (non-recoverable AFAIK). One known way for this to happen is to open the
> file in another program (Word, Excel, etc.,) and make a change and then
> save. My guess is that the equivelant of this is happening to your file
> when you change the extension to txt and then Email it.
>
> I do something similar when Emailing these files but I choose a nonsense
> extension rather than one that will be a recognized file-type. I have had
> no problems with that strategy.
>
> --
> I don't check the Email account attached
> to this message. Send instead to...
> RBrandt at Hunter dot com
>
>
>