Use Abexo Free Registry Cleaner regularly to make your computer run
faster and with less problems.
http://www.abexo.com/free-registry-cleaner.htm

"Tramp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Use Abexo Free Registry Cleaner regularly to make your computer run
> faster and with less problems.
> http://www.abexo.com/free-registry-cleaner.htm

What is the general feeling around here about cleaning the registry? Is it
good, bad, dangerous???

Jeff Needle wrote:
> "Tramp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>>Use Abexo Free Registry Cleaner regularly to make your computer run
>>faster and with less problems.
>>http://www.abexo.com/free-registry-cleaner.htm
>
>
> What is the general feeling around here about cleaning the registry? Is it
> good, bad, dangerous???
>

This subject's treated at least twice a year over at
microsoft.public.win2000.general (for the case of win2k). From what
I've read of it, there are two reasons proponents give to clean a registry:

1) makes it smaller, faster
2) decreases complexity rendering it more stable

Wrt #1, I haven't seen any quantifiable measurements to support this.
Wrt #2, it sounds good to me but anicdotal evidence renders it a
religious war more than anything else.

ymmv,
-Craig

"Craig" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Jeff Needle wrote:
>> "Tramp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>Use Abexo Free Registry Cleaner regularly to make your computer run
>>>faster and with less problems.
>>>http://www.abexo.com/free-registry-cleaner.htm
>>
>>
>> What is the general feeling around here about cleaning the registry? Is
>> it good, bad, dangerous???
>>
>
> This subject's treated at least twice a year over at
> microsoft.public.win2000.general (for the case of win2k). From what I've
> read of it, there are two reasons proponents give to clean a registry:
>
> 1) makes it smaller, faster
> 2) decreases complexity rendering it more stable
>
> Wrt #1, I haven't seen any quantifiable measurements to support this. Wrt
> #2, it sounds good to me but anicdotal evidence renders it a religious war
> more than anything else.
>
> ymmv,
> -Craig

Thanks for the info!

Jeff Needle wrote:

> "Craig" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:U4Q8g.25208$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Jeff Needle wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What is the general feeling around here about cleaning the registry? Is
>>>it good, bad, dangerous???
>>>
>>
>>This subject's treated at least twice a year over at
>>microsoft.public.win2000.general (for the case of win2k). From what I've
>>read of it, there are two reasons proponents give to clean a registry:
>>
>>1) makes it smaller, faster
>>2) decreases complexity rendering it more stable
>>
>>Wrt #1, I haven't seen any quantifiable measurements to support this. Wrt
>>#2, it sounds good to me but anicdotal evidence renders it a religious war
>>more than anything else.
>>
>>ymmv,
>>-Craig
>
>
> Thanks for the info!
>
For the record: Not so much "info" as opinion...

your welcome!

-Craig

Hi Jeff - In my experience all of these Reg cleaners, even the best, are
fraught with danger. I advise against using them except in one specific
instance, that is when you have one that is capable of doing specific Reg
searches, and you NEED (not just WANT) to remove the remaining traces of
something that didn't get uninstalled correctly. (and you didn't have
foresight enough to install it using Total Uninstall,
http://www.martau.com/ or free direct dwnld here:
http://digilander.libero.it/molearchive3/tun235.zip or here:
http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydown...le.php?lid=234, in the
first place.) (As an aside, there are, however, some third party Registry
Editors which can be of great help with both the incorrect uninstall and
with certain malware problems, especially some of theCoolWebSearch types
such as the AppInit_DLLs variant of the about:blank version of CWS, for
example. I can recommend Registrar Lite, here:
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downr...s_registry.htm This
is intentionally the older 2.0 version - to see their most current stuff,
take a look here: http://www.resplendence.com/registrar.)

There are a couple of specific bugs that can cause abnormal growth in either
the System or Software hives; however, they are rare, and unless these hives
in %SystemRoot%\System32\config are very, very large (in the hundreds of
megabytes), then I would council you to leave your Registry alone except for
the special circumstances I mentioned above.

I and most other MVP's that I know believe that Registry modifications of
any type are probably best done manually, very carefully, with a thorough
knowledge of what's installed on your machine, and what you're doing, and
then only when necessary. There's very little (if any!) noticeable benefit
in either space saving or speed achievable by cleaning out the Registry
except in those few cases where there's a specific problem the client is
experiencing (usually uninstall or malware related in my experience) that
needs to be fixed.

Lastly, if you must screw around with your Registry, then at least get
Erunt/Erdnt, and run it before you do the Reg clean. You'll then have a
true restore available to you. Read below to see why you might not just
using the Reg cleaner's restore:

Get Erunt here for all NT-based computers including XP:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ I've set it up to take a
scheduled backup each night at 12:01AM on a weekly round-robin basis, and a
Monthly on the 1st of each month. See here for how to set that up:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-on...runt/erunt.txt, and for some
useful information about this subject.

This program is one of the best things around - saved my butt on many
occasions, and will also run very nicely from a DOS prompt (in case you've
done something that won't let you boot any more and need to revert to a
previous Registry) IF you're FAT32 OR have a DOS startup disk with NTFS
write drivers in an NTFS system. (There is also a way using the Recovery
Console to get back to being "bootable" even without separate DOS write NTFS
drivers, after which you can do a "normal" Erdnt restore.) (BTW, it also
includes a Registry defragger program). Free, and very, very highly
recommended.

FYI, quoting from the above document:

"Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make a
complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole registry
(for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is saved), nor can the
exported file be used later to replace the current registry with the old
one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is merged with the current
registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of old and new registry keys.

FWIW, the second question I ask clients is whether they've recently used a
Reg Cleaner or tried to restore from one. (The first question I ask is
whether they've any non-commercial Norton/Symantec software installed.
)

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP/DTS/AH-VSOP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://DefendingYourMachine.blogspot.com/



"Jeff Needle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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|| "Tramp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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||| Use Abexo Free Registry Cleaner regularly to make your computer run
||| faster and with less problems.
||| http://www.abexo.com/free-registry-cleaner.htm
||
|| What is the general feeling around here about cleaning the registry? Is
it
|| good, bad, dangerous???

I have used regseeker RegSeeker.exe for since I had ME and find no
problem with it in Me or Xp.
Works great..

"Jim Byrd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi Jeff - In my experience all of these Reg cleaners, even the best, are
> fraught with danger. I advise against using them except in one specific
> instance, that is when you have one that is capable of doing specific Reg
> searches, and you NEED (not just WANT) to remove the remaining traces of
> something that didn't get uninstalled correctly. (and you didn't have
> foresight enough to install it using Total Uninstall,
> http://www.martau.com/ or free direct dwnld here:
> http://digilander.libero.it/molearchive3/tun235.zip or here:
> http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydown...le.php?lid=234, in the
> first place.) (As an aside, there are, however, some third party Registry
> Editors which can be of great help with both the incorrect uninstall and
> with certain malware problems, especially some of theCoolWebSearch types
> such as the AppInit_DLLs variant of the about:blank version of CWS, for
> example. I can recommend Registrar Lite, here:
> http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downr...s_registry.htm
> This
> is intentionally the older 2.0 version - to see their most current stuff,
> take a look here: http://www.resplendence.com/registrar.)
>
> There are a couple of specific bugs that can cause abnormal growth in
> either
> the System or Software hives; however, they are rare, and unless these
> hives
> in %SystemRoot%\System32\config are very, very large (in the hundreds of
> megabytes), then I would council you to leave your Registry alone except
> for
> the special circumstances I mentioned above.
>
> I and most other MVP's that I know believe that Registry modifications of
> any type are probably best done manually, very carefully, with a thorough
> knowledge of what's installed on your machine, and what you're doing, and
> then only when necessary. There's very little (if any!) noticeable
> benefit
> in either space saving or speed achievable by cleaning out the Registry
> except in those few cases where there's a specific problem the client is
> experiencing (usually uninstall or malware related in my experience) that
> needs to be fixed.
>
> Lastly, if you must screw around with your Registry, then at least get
> Erunt/Erdnt, and run it before you do the Reg clean. You'll then have a
> true restore available to you. Read below to see why you might not just
> using the Reg cleaner's restore:
>
> Get Erunt here for all NT-based computers including XP:
> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ I've set it up to take
> a
> scheduled backup each night at 12:01AM on a weekly round-robin basis, and
> a
> Monthly on the 1st of each month. See here for how to set that up:
> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-on...runt/erunt.txt, and for some
> useful information about this subject.
>
> This program is one of the best things around - saved my butt on many
> occasions, and will also run very nicely from a DOS prompt (in case you've
> done something that won't let you boot any more and need to revert to a
> previous Registry) IF you're FAT32 OR have a DOS startup disk with NTFS
> write drivers in an NTFS system. (There is also a way using the Recovery
> Console to get back to being "bootable" even without separate DOS write
> NTFS
> drivers, after which you can do a "normal" Erdnt restore.) (BTW, it also
> includes a Registry defragger program). Free, and very, very highly
> recommended.
>
> FYI, quoting from the above document:
>
> "Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make a
> complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole registry
> (for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is saved), nor can
> the
> exported file be used later to replace the current registry with the old
> one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is merged with the current
> registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of old and new registry keys.
>
> FWIW, the second question I ask clients is whether they've recently used a
> Reg Cleaner or tried to restore from one. (The first question I ask is
> whether they've any non-commercial Norton/Symantec software installed.
> )
>
> --
> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP/DTS/AH-VSOP
> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> http://DefendingYourMachine.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> "Jeff Needle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)
> || "Tramp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> || news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> ||| Use Abexo Free Registry Cleaner regularly to make your computer run
> ||| faster and with less problems.
> ||| http://www.abexo.com/free-registry-cleaner.htm
> ||
> || What is the general feeling around here about cleaning the registry?
> Is
> it
> || good, bad, dangerous???
>
>



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"Jeff Needle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Tramp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Use Abexo Free Registry Cleaner regularly to make your computer run
>> faster and with less problems.
>> http://www.abexo.com/free-registry-cleaner.htm
>
> What is the general feeling around here about cleaning the registry? Is
> it good, bad, dangerous???
>
CCleaner will tidy up your registry, and do more besides.

What a tremendous lot of stuff -- I appreciate it. I've come to the
conlcusion that I'll likely not mess with the registry unless I really need
to.

Thanks again.

"Jim Byrd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Jeff - In my experience all of these Reg cleaners, even the best, are
> fraught with danger. I advise against using them except in one specific
> instance, that is when you have one that is capable of doing specific Reg
> searches, and you NEED (not just WANT) to remove the remaining traces of

<snip>

YW, Jeff.

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP/DTS/AH-VSOP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://DefendingYourMachine.blogspot.com/



"Jeff Needle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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|| What a tremendous lot of stuff -- I appreciate it. I've come to the
|| conlcusion that I'll likely not mess with the registry unless I really
need
|| to.
||
|| Thanks again.
||