I've seen the word "abondanware" used a few times in this newsgroup - how
would "abondonware" be defined?

thanks in advance

coma


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c_e wrote:

> I've seen the word "abondanware" used a few times in this newsgroup -
> how would "abondonware" be defined?

Probably not the same way as spelled in the subject!

"c_e" skrev...
> I've seen the word "abondanware" used a few times in this
> newsgroup - how would "abondonware" be defined?

According to the glossary on the Pricelessware site:

Orphanware/Abandonware: software that the original author
or company no longer offers to the public (used when author
cannot be located or company is no longer in existence). May
not be freeware. May not be legal to obtain and use it.

http://pricelessware.org/2004/Glossary2004PL.htm

However, I personally also make a distinction between "orphaned" and
"abandoned".

As an example I have often used Visual Thought, that was explicitly
abandoned by the company (no further development or support on the
software). In this process they also made it freely available to the public
community.

In other cases, when a company ceases to exist, the result is obviously
similar (no further development or support on the software), but there is
also mostly no possibility to get any more information on the status of the
software as freeware or not (orphaned).

In those cases, one must refer to what is known from the last publicly known
EULA or similar.

Bottom-line:

- the concept "abandonware" doesn't in itself say anything
on the status of the software as "freeware" or not, but...

- there is no known further development
or support on the software

Hope this helps

// Bjorn A

c_e scribebat:

> I've seen the word "abandonware" used a few times in this newsgroup -
> how would "abandonware" be defined?

There is a description of many "ware" types to be found at
http://www.pricelessware.org/

I would define Abandonware as software that has been officially
abandoned (getting no more support, is no longer developed) by its
producers. (Windows 95 is abandonware now)

> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

Please put this message off - it cannot be a certificate because any
virus can imitate it. It gives a false feeling of security which a virus
can abuse to make a reader run it.

bye,

Onno

"Flaccid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> c_e wrote:
>
> > I've seen the word "abondanware" used a few times in this newsgroup -
> > how would "abondonware" be defined?
>
> Probably not the same way as spelled in the subject!
>
>
LOL, maybe I should've just asked if anyone knew of a free spellchecker for
OE!

coma


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"Onno Tasler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> c_e scribebat:

>
> > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>
> Please put this message off - it cannot be a certificate because any
> virus can imitate it. It gives a false feeling of security which a virus
> can abuse to make a reader run it.
>
> bye,
>
> Onno

ok, Just for you Onno

actually I hadn't realised I'd put that option on AVG - you're right, it is
annoying, meaningless and potentially misleading

coma

"Bjorn Abelli" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bv8fml$p9v4g$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "c_e" skrev...
> > I've seen the word "abondanware" used a few times in this
> > newsgroup - how would "abondonware" be defined?
>
> According to the glossary on the Pricelessware site:
>
> Orphanware/Abandonware: software that the original author
> or company no longer offers to the public (used when author
> cannot be located or company is no longer in existence). May
> not be freeware. May not be legal to obtain and use it.
>
> http://pricelessware.org/2004/Glossary2004PL.htm
>
> However, I personally also make a distinction between "orphaned" and
> "abandoned".
>
> As an example I have often used Visual Thought, that was explicitly
> abandoned by the company (no further development or support on the
> software). In this process they also made it freely available to the
public
> community.
>
> In other cases, when a company ceases to exist, the result is obviously
> similar (no further development or support on the software), but there is
> also mostly no possibility to get any more information on the status of
the
> software as freeware or not (orphaned).
>
> In those cases, one must refer to what is known from the last publicly
known
> EULA or similar.
>
> Bottom-line:
>
> - the concept "abandonware" doesn't in itself say anything
> on the status of the software as "freeware" or not, but...
>
> - there is no known further development
> or support on the software
>
> Hope this helps
>
> // Bjorn A
>
>
Yes, thanks

It defaults to "on" when you install AVG.

JM

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:41:24 -0000, "c_e"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

<snip>
>actually I hadn't realised I'd put that option on AVG - you're right, it is
>annoying, meaningless and potentially misleading
>
>coma
>

Just mee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>It defaults to "on" when you install AVG.
As I discovered recently, it also reverts to "on" when one upgrades
the .exe file (not the virus datafile).
--
Derald

Onno Tasler <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:1t8upoxwwcqf9.dlg@ID-
206590.news.individual.de:

> I would define Abandonware as software that has been officially
> abandoned (getting no more support, is no longer developed) by its
> producers. (Windows 95 is abandonware now)
>

No. Win95 is NOT abandonware. If you think that it is, start selling copied
Win95 CDs on eBay, and make sure that Microsoft finds out about it. You'll
quickly find out that Win95 is not abandonware.