Hello dea
people @ this Asus Forum.
I am totally new here and hope to get and give some useful
information here.
[color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]
But first i need your help badly ..[/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98]


I have an [b:c68fdfdb98]Asus A7N8X DeLuxe Gold Rev
1.04[/b:c68fdfdb98] just updated t
[color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]1009[/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98]
[b:c68fdfdb98]Soon i will buy me the SATA2 HDD Samsung SpinPoint P12
Series SP2504C [/b:c68fdfdb98]
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Hard...ies_SP2504C.ht

Because of that i have to update m
[b:c68fdfdb98]Sil3112A[/b:c68fdfdb98] drivers. And [b:c68fdfdb98]tha
[/b:c68fdfdb98]gives me a big headache. It is confusing and it make
me weird aranoid:

[size=18:c68fdfdb98][color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]As found o
the homepage of Silicon Image
[/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98][/size:c68fdfdb98
http://www.siliconimage.com/support/...&ctid=2&osid=4
their latest [b:c68fdfdb98]SiI3x12 32-bit Windows SATARAID Driver
v.1.0.0.51 (21-09-2004)[/b:c68fdfdb98
[[color=red:c68fdfdb98]Sil3x12A-Serial ATA (SATA
Windows RAID Driver.zip[/color:c68fdfdb98]], which
just downloaded. A little bit confusing for me is the possibility t
download also the latest [b:c68fdfdb98]SiI3x12 32-bit Windows ID
Driver, v.1.3.61.0 (07-10-2005)[/b:c68fdfdb98
[[i:c68fdfdb98][color=red:c68fdfdb98]SWD-003x12-00W-1361.zip[/color:c68fdfdb98][/i:c68fdfdb98]

[size=18:c68fdfdb98][color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]Is i
necessary to download that one too?[/b:c68fdfdb98
[/color:c68fdfdb98][/size:c68fdfdb98]
However when you take a look unde
[b:c68fdfdb98]Description[/b:c68fdfdb98] you see that you can clic
also for [b:c68fdfdb98]Sil3112 BIOS [/b:c68fdfdb98] where you ge
[i:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]even mor
[/b:c68fdfdb98][/i:c68fdfdb98]options
[url]http://www.siliconimage.com/support/supportsearchresults.aspx?pid=63&cid=15&ctid=2&[/url

I do have already the latest RAID BIOS
[b:c68fdfdb98]3112_x86_ribios-4250.zip[/b:c68fdfdb98
[size=18:c68fdfdb98
[color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]Problem is, that i don't kno
anymore what to use and what to do
[/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98][/size:c68fdfdb98] :crybaby:

Because my [b:c68fdfdb98]actual [/b:c68fdfdb98]motherboard does onl
support [b:c68fdfdb98]SATA1[/b:c68fdfdb98] this new SATA2 HDD has t
be set at the [b:c68fdfdb98]1,5Gbps [/b:c68fdfdb98]mode, which wil
be done [b:c68fdfdb98]automatically [/b:c68fdfdb98]by this Samsung
[b:c68fdfdb98]See for info:[/b:c68fdfdb98
[url]http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/support/faqs/faqs_20050727_0000180403.htm[/url
[b:c68fdfdb98]for a close jumperview: [/b:c68fdfdb98] :smirk:
[url]http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/support/faqs/images/SATAspeedselectionjumper.JPG[/url

[size=18:c68fdfdb98][color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]I want
fresh XP Pro install and because of that i have several question
[/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98][/size:c68fdfdb98

I know that during this install i have to push th
[color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]F6[/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98
key to load the SATA RAID driver [color=blue:c68fdfdb98]1.0.0.5
[/color:c68fdfdb98](floppy).
[b:c68fdfdb98]But[/b:c68fdfdb98] there has to be done more i guess
[b:c68fdfdb98]How[/b:c68fdfdb98] to load the RAID BIOS v
[color=blue:c68fdfdb98]4.2.5.0[/color:c68fdfdb98].? (Is i
necessary?)
[b:c68fdfdb98]Which [/b:c68fdfdb98]other drivers do i have to downloa
/ install?

[b:c68fdfdb98]Next[/b:c68fdfdb98] summer i wil buy me a ne
[color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]ASUS AMD64 MoBo wit
SATA2[/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98]. I presume this Samsung thin
will "see" that there is a SATA2 controller then
[b:c68fdfdb98]what will happen then with all the DATA[/b:c68fdfdb98]
Will it be useless then? Do i have to make [b:c68fdfdb98]a fresh X
Pro install again [/b:c68fdfdb98]or doesn't happen anything at al
and will only the 1,5Gbps ([i:c68fdfdb98]SATA1[/i:c68fdfdb98]
changed to 3.0Gbps? ([i:c68fdfdb98]SATA2[/i:c68fdfdb98])

[b:c68fdfdb98]Recently[/b:c68fdfdb98] i updated my [b:c68fdfdb98]A7N8X
Deluxe PCB Rev. 1.04[/b:c68fdfdb98] to
[color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]1009[/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98].
I am not sure what SATA features are in that BIOS update, so maybe one
of you can give me the answer on that. Maybe in this 1009-update the
SATA-updates are already included? Can someone give me an answer on
that?

[size=18:c68fdfdb98][color=blue:c68fdfdb98][b:c68fdfdb98]Well as you
can see i did a major job here for putting so much questions in one
single posting. [/b:c68fdfdb98][/color:c68fdfdb98][/size:c68fdfdb98]

I hope you won't get dizzy and will forgive me for this enormous
posting. I am sorry for that, but i didn't see a way out anymore so i
decided to do it in one posting. I hope it is readable. :retard:

In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)lid
(Guevara) wrote:

> Hello dear people @ this Asus Forum. I am totally new here
> and hope to get and give some usefull information here.
> But first i need your help badly
>
> I have an Asus A7N8X DeLuxe Gold Rev. 1.04 just updated to
> 1009. Soon i will buy me the SATA2 HDD Samsung SpinPoint P120
> Series SP2504C
>
>
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Hard...es_SP2504C.htm
>
> Because of that i have to update my Sil3112A drivers. And that
> gives me a big headache. It is confusing and it makes
> me weird aranoid:
>
> As found on the homepage of Silicon Image:
>
>
http://www.siliconimage.com/support/...ctid=2&osid=4&
>
> their latest SiI3x12 32-bit Windows SATARAID Driver,
> v.1.0.0.51 (21-09-2004) Sil3x12A-Serial ATA (SATA)
> Windows RAID Driver.zip, which i just downloaded. A little bit
> confusing for me is the possibility to download also the latest
> SiI3x12 32-bit Windows IDE Driver, v.1.3.61.0 (07-10-2005)
> SWD-003x12-00W-1361.zip
>
> Is it necessary to download that one too?
> However when you take a look under Description you see that
> you can click also for Sil3112 BIOS where you get even more
> options:
>
>
http://www.siliconimage.com/support/...cid=15&ctid=2&
>
> I do have already the latest RAID BIOS: 3112_x86_ribios-4250.zip
> Problem is, that i don't know anymore what to use and what to do
> :crybaby:
>
> Because my actual motherboard does only support SATA1 this new
> SATA2 HDD has to be set at the 1,5Gbps mode, which will be done
> automatically by this Samsung. See for info:
>
>
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Hard...0000180403.htm
>
> for a close jumperview: :smirk:
>
>
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Hard...tionjumper.JPG
>
> I want a fresh XP Pro install and because of that i have several
> questions
>
> I know that during this install i have to push the F6
> key to load the SATA RAID driver 1.0.0.51 (floppy).
> But there has to be done more i guess?
> How to load the RAID BIOS v.4.2.5.0.? (Is it necessary?)
> Which other drivers do i have to download / install?
>
> Next summer i wil buy me a new ASUS AMD64 MoBo with
> SATA2. I presume this Samsung thing will "see" that
> there is a SATA2 controller then, what will happen then
> with all the DATA ?
>
> Will it be useless then? Do i have to make a fresh XP
> Pro install again or doesn't happen anything at all
> and will only the 1,5Gbps (SATA1) changed to 3.0Gbps? (SATA2)
>
> Recently i updated my A7N8X Deluxe PCB Rev. 1.04 to 1009.
> I am not sure what SATA features are in that BIOS update,
> so maybe one of you can give me the answer on that. Maybe
> in this 1009-update the SATA-updates are already included?
> Can someone give me an answer on that?
>
> Well as you can see i did a major job here for putting so
> much questions in one single posting.
>
> I hope you won't get dizzy and will forgive me for this enormous
> posting. I am sorry for that, but i didn't see a way out
> anymore so i decided to do it in one posting.
> I hope it is readable. :retard:

AN8D1009 BIOS file has Silicon Image 4247 RAID BIOS in it. To change
to a different one, like 4250, requires BIOS editing tools, to
extract the old, and add the new RAID BIOS. There are also people
who have already done this, and offer the result on their web
page for download.

In terms of drivers, do you already have drivers installed ?
Did you go to the Device Manager, and see what drivers are loaded
for your hardware ? That might give you some idea what drivers
are currently in use.

The information on this page, refers to the use of a SIL3112 on a
separate PCI card. When the SIL3112 is put on your motherboard,
the RAID BIOS is stored inside the motherboard flash chip. But
you can still use the drivers. If you are not building a RAID
array, then the IDE driver should be good enough.

http://www.siliconimage.com/support/...ctid=2&osid=4&

The 3112_x86_ribios-4250.zip file is not intended for a motherboard
user. It is for a separate PCI card based SIL3112 product.

In terms of moving the Samsung disk, from A7N8X SIL3112 to a
new AMD64 motherboard, the driver needed to access the data
will be different. If could be, that a "repair install" will
allow you to fix the driver issue. Perhaps some one who has
done that before, can give you a better answer (the answer
really depends on whether the SIL3112 uses a reserved sector
or not, to store info about whether the drive is in a RAID -
I've had a portability problem between a Promise RAID and
my Southbridge, on another motherboard.).

The clock rate jumper only affects the clock rate of the
data on the SATA cable, it does not change the method of
data storage on the disk. You can use whatever setting for
the jumper, that is compatible with the capabilities of
the motherboard.

By the way, when you post to USENET, select a "text only" format
for your news reader program. I had to reformat your posting
above, in order to be able to read it. Your posting is full
of "formatting commands". You might go to groups.google.com
and see what the posting looks like for the rest of us. And
if you are tunnelling to USENET via a PHP bulletin board,
why not try posting through Google instead ? Or tell your
bulletin board owner to change the format of the info
exported to nntp - I mean, look at this mess...

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.co...34acec9304e579

Paul

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
>
>
> AN8D1009 BIOS file has Silicon Image 4247 RAID BIOS in it. T
chang
> to a different one, like 4250, requires BIOS editing tools, t
> extract the old, and add the new RAID BIOS. There are also peopl
> who have already done this, and offer the result on their we
> page for download.
>
> In terms of drivers, do you already have drivers installed ?
> Did you go to the Device Manager, and see what drivers are loade
> for your hardware ? That might give you some idea what driver
> are currently in use.

The Silicon Image Sil 3112 SATARaid Controller driver is: v.1.0.0.47
THAT driverversion can i update with the 1.0.0.51 as described in m
posting and which i already had downloaded

For what the Raid BIOS driver version concerns, i don't know. I hav
further no idea what drivers i have to look for more. Can you be mor
specific to that? Also the links i posted unde "Describe" are ther
(necessarely) drivers to download for me

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
> The information on this page, refers to the use of a SIL3112 on
> separate PCI card. When the SIL3112 is put on your motherboard
> the RAID BIOS is stored inside the motherboard flash chip. Bu
> you can still use the drivers. If you are not building a RAI
> array, then the IDE driver should be good enough.

As i read on several forums it is necessary to update at least th
Sil3112A driver when you go for the Samsung i want to buy. (Mayb
also because of the 250 GB which wouldn't be recognized then) Wha
about the Raid BIOS, i don't know what to do

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li

http://www.siliconimage.com/support/...&ctid=2&osid=4
>
> The 3112_x86_ribios-4250.zip file is not intended for a motherboar
> user. It is for a separate PCI card based SIL3112 product.

That should mean that i don't have to upgrade the BIOS of it

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
> In terms of moving the Samsung disk, from A7N8X SIL3112 to
> new AMD64 motherboard, the driver needed to access the dat
> will be different. If could be, that a "repair install" wil
> allow you to fix the driver issue. Perhaps some one who ha
> done that before, can give you a better answer (the answe
> really depends on whether the SIL3112 uses a reserved secto
> or not, to store info about whether the drive is in a RAID -
> I've had a portability problem between a Promise RAID an
> my Southbridge, on another motherboard.)

That is a very interesting point. I hope someone give me an answer o
that issue. I hope it can be done by software and not that i
necessary to re-install all the sh*t

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
> The clock rate jumper only affects the clock rate of the
> data on the SATA cable, it does not change the method of
> data storage on the disk. You can use whatever setting fo
> the jumper, that is compatible with the capabilities o
> the motherboard.

It has only influence on the data-transfer?

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
> By the way, when you post to USENET, select a "text only" forma
> for your news reader program. I had to reformat your postin
> above, in order to be able to read it. Your posting is ful
> of "formatting commands". You might go to groups.google.co
> and see what the posting looks like for the rest of us. An
> if you are tunnelling to USENET via a PHP bulletin board
> why not try posting through Google instead ? Or tell you
> bulletin board owner to change the format of the inf
> exported to nntp - I mean, look at this mess...

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.co...334acec9304e57
> Pau

As you can see, i just editted the text and changed a lot. Thx for it
hope it is now better ;-) Hopefully you or someone else can give a
the information and help i need.

Tia

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
>
>
> AN8D1009 BIOS file has Silicon Image 4247 RAID BIOS in it. T
chang
> to a different one, like 4250, requires BIOS editing tools, t
> extract the old, and add the new RAID BIOS. There are also peopl
> who have already done this, and offer the result on their we
> page for download.
>
> In terms of drivers, do you already have drivers installed ?
> Did you go to the Device Manager, and see what drivers are loade
> for your hardware ? That might give you some idea what driver
> are currently in use.

The Silicon Image Sil 3112 SATARaid Controller driver is: v.1.0.0.47
THAT driverversion can i update with the 1.0.0.51 as described in m
posting and which i already had downloaded

For what the Raid BIOS driver version concerns, i don't know. I hav
further no idea what drivers i have to look for more. Can you be mor
specific to that? Also the links i posted unde "Describe" are ther
(necessarely) drivers to download for me

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
> The information on this page, refers to the use of a SIL3112 on
> separate PCI card. When the SIL3112 is put on your motherboard
> the RAID BIOS is stored inside the motherboard flash chip. Bu
> you can still use the drivers. If you are not building a RAI
> array, then the IDE driver should be good enough.

As i read on several forums it is necessary to update at least th
Sil3112A driver when you go for the Samsung i want to buy. (Mayb
also because of the 250 GB which wouldn't be recognized then) Wha
about the Raid BIOS, i don't know what to do

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li

http://www.siliconimage.com/support/...&ctid=2&osid=4
>
> The 3112_x86_ribios-4250.zip file is not intended for a motherboar
> user. It is for a separate PCI card based SIL3112 product.

That should mean that i don't have to upgrade the BIOS of it

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
> In terms of moving the Samsung disk, from A7N8X SIL3112 to
> new AMD64 motherboard, the driver needed to access the dat
> will be different. If could be, that a "repair install" wil
> allow you to fix the driver issue. Perhaps some one who ha
> done that before, can give you a better answer (the answe
> really depends on whether the SIL3112 uses a reserved secto
> or not, to store info about whether the drive is in a RAID -
> I've had a portability problem between a Promise RAID an
> my Southbridge, on another motherboard.)

That is a very interesting point. I hope someone give me an answer o
that issue. I hope it can be done by software and not that i
necessary to re-install all the sh*t

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
> The clock rate jumper only affects the clock rate of the
> data on the SATA cable, it does not change the method of
> data storage on the disk. You can use whatever setting fo
> the jumper, that is compatible with the capabilities o
> the motherboard.

It has only influence on the data-transfer?

> Paulwrote
In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>
(E-Mail Removed)li
> By the way, when you post to USENET, select a "text only" forma
> for your news reader program. I had to reformat your postin
> above, in order to be able to read it. Your posting is ful
> of "formatting commands". You might go to groups.google.co
> and see what the posting looks like for the rest of us. An
> if you are tunnelling to USENET via a PHP bulletin board
> why not try posting through Google instead ? Or tell you
> bulletin board owner to change the format of the inf
> exported to nntp - I mean, look at this mess...

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.co...334acec9304e57
> Pau

As you can see, i just editted the text and changed a lot. Thx for it
hope it is now better ;-) Hopefully you or someone else can give a
the information and help i need.

Tia

In article <ZDpif.23499$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)lid
(Guevara) wrote:

Your posting format is much improved :-) However, I notice when
you posted, that two articles were posted. That means something
is tied in a loop ? Have a look in Google, to see what has
happened.

> > Paulwrote:
> In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed)lid
> >
> >
> > AN8D1009 BIOS file has Silicon Image 4247 RAID BIOS in it. To
> change
> > to a different one, like 4250, requires BIOS editing tools, to
> > extract the old, and add the new RAID BIOS. There are also people
> > who have already done this, and offer the result on their web
> > page for download.
> >
> > In terms of drivers, do you already have drivers installed ?
> > Did you go to the Device Manager, and see what drivers are loaded
> > for your hardware ? That might give you some idea what drivers
> > are currently in use.
>
> The Silicon Image Sil 3112 SATARaid Controller driver is: v.1.0.0.47.
> THAT driverversion can i update with the 1.0.0.51 as described in my
> posting and which i already had downloaded?
>
> For what the Raid BIOS driver version concerns, i don't know. I have
> further no idea what drivers i have to look for more. Can you be more
> specific to that? Also the links i posted unde "Describe" are there
> (necessarely) drivers to download for me?

If you look here, you can download a "Trats" BIOS. The one for
1009, with CPC ON, is the one I would select. It has 4250 RAID
BIOS installed in it. I have used a different "Trats" modded
BIOS on my A7N8X-E Deluxe without a problem (I don't use SATA
drives on my board, so haven't done anything with the SIL3112
on my board.) You don't absolutely need this BIOS, but it is
there if you want to try it.

This is the thread with the announcement:

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.p...light=AN8D1009

This is the BIOS, with 4250 RAID, and CPC On (CPC On is exactly
like the normal Asus BIOS are shipped - it gives higher memory
bandwidth than CPC Off):

http://www.senorpanadero.net/uploade...N8D1009mod.zip

The next issue is the driver files. I believe all these drivers
will work with 4247 or 4250 BIOS versions.

IDE Driver 1.3.61.0 Most recent IDE driver. Has one additional
system file "SiRemFil.sys". By naming convention
and content, this file allows hot swap of SATA
drives. You may see a "Safe to remove" icon in
the taskbar if you use this driver. You cannot
remove the boot drive. This is not practical for
an internal SATA drive.
SATARAID 1.00.51 Latest RAID driver, for things like RAID 0 or
RAID 1 (striping or mirroring). Use with two drives.
IDE Driver 1.2.0.57 Driver for non-RAID array operation. Like one
drive by itself. Or two single drives by
themselves.

If you do not wish to set up a RAID array, I would use the first
file, the 1.3.61.0 .

>
> > Paulwrote:
> In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed)lid
> > The information on this page, refers to the use of a SIL3112 on a
> > separate PCI card. When the SIL3112 is put on your motherboard,
> > the RAID BIOS is stored inside the motherboard flash chip. But
> > you can still use the drivers. If you are not building a RAID
> > array, then the IDE driver should be good enough.
>
> As i read on several forums it is necessary to update at least the
> Sil3112A driver when you go for the Samsung i want to buy. (Maybe
> also because of the 250 GB which wouldn't be recognized then) What
> about the Raid BIOS, i don't know what to do.
>
> > Paulwrote:
> In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed)lid
> >
>
http://www.siliconimage.com/support/...ctid=2&osid=4&
> >
> > The 3112_x86_ribios-4250.zip file is not intended for a motherboard
> > user. It is for a separate PCI card based SIL3112 product.
>
> That should mean that i don't have to upgrade the BIOS of it?

You cannot use the 3112_x86_ribios-4250.zip . You do not have a
flashing tool, and the SIL3112 is not configured to use the
contents of the ZIP. The above "Trats" BIOS has been modded
via one of the files in that ZIP. Trat has done the work for
you. You can always install the 1.3.61.0 driver on your system
as it is now, and test it with your new Samsung drive - it
may work properly without needing the "Trats" BIOs.

>
> > Paulwrote:
> In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed)lid
> > In terms of moving the Samsung disk, from A7N8X SIL3112 to a
> > new AMD64 motherboard, the driver needed to access the data
> > will be different. If could be, that a "repair install" will
> > allow you to fix the driver issue. Perhaps some one who has
> > done that before, can give you a better answer (the answer
> > really depends on whether the SIL3112 uses a reserved sector
> > or not, to store info about whether the drive is in a RAID -
> > I've had a portability problem between a Promise RAID and
> > my Southbridge, on another motherboard.)
>
> That is a very interesting point. I hope someone give me an answer on
> that issue. I hope it can be done by software and not that is
> necessary to re-install all the sh*t.

I cannot test it for you, because I don't own any SATA drives.
(I use nothing but PATA drives.)

>
> > Paulwrote:
> In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed)lid
> > The clock rate jumper only affects the clock rate of the
> > data on the SATA cable, it does not change the method of
> > data storage on the disk. You can use whatever setting for
> > the jumper, that is compatible with the capabilities of
> > the motherboard.
>
> It has only influence on the data-transfer?

Yes, it only affects the transfer rate on the cable.
It does nothing to the files on the disk.

>
> > Paulwrote:
> In article <AOPhf.2599$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed)lid
> > By the way, when you post to USENET, select a "text only" format
> > for your news reader program. I had to reformat your posting
> > above, in order to be able to read it. Your posting is full
> > of "formatting commands". You might go to groups.google.com
> > and see what the posting looks like for the rest of us. And
> > if you are tunnelling to USENET via a PHP bulletin board,
> > why not try posting through Google instead ? Or tell your
> > bulletin board owner to change the format of the info
> > exported to nntp - I mean, look at this mess...
> >
>
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.co...34acec9304e579
> > Paul
>
> As you can see, i just editted the text and changed a lot. Thx for it,
> hope it is now better ;-) Hopefully you or someone else can give al
> the information and help i need.
>
> Tia

Good luck,
Paul