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cvegas
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      22nd Mar 2010
Using Access 2K and have created and mde file which I put into each users
folder.

If one user is logged in another user will get the "Could not use admin file
in use"
message.

This is on a 2003 SR 2 terminal server and the users are rdp'ing into the
system.

That portion of the server is locked down pretty tight and none of those
users would have any admin rights.

Any direction would be aprreciated.


 
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Arvin Meyer [MVP]
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      23rd Mar 2010
It may be locked down too tightly. Users need create and delete permissions,
in addition to read and write. Create and delete are needed dor the .LDB
file (locking file) If Access can't lock specific records and tables, it
locks everything.
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"cvegas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Using Access 2K and have created and mde file which I put into each users
> folder.
>
> If one user is logged in another user will get the "Could not use admin
> file
> in use"
> message.
>
> This is on a 2003 SR 2 terminal server and the users are rdp'ing into the
> system.
>
> That portion of the server is locked down pretty tight and none of those
> users would have any admin rights.
>
> Any direction would be aprreciated.
>
>



 
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David W. Fenton
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      23rd Mar 2010
"Arvin Meyer [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> It may be locked down too tightly. Users need create and delete
> permissions, in addition to read and write. Create and delete are
> needed dor the .LDB file (locking file) If Access can't lock
> specific records and tables, it locks everything.


Delete permission IS NOT REQUIRED. If you remove it, Jet will behave
just like Jet 2.x did, i.e., leaving the LDB file there after Access
closes.

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Arvin Meyer [MVP]
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      24th Mar 2010
"David W. Fenton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Arvin Meyer [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> It may be locked down too tightly. Users need create and delete
>> permissions, in addition to read and write. Create and delete are
>> needed dor the .LDB file (locking file) If Access can't lock
>> specific records and tables, it locks everything.

>
> Delete permission IS NOT REQUIRED. If you remove it, Jet will behave
> just like Jet 2.x did, i.e., leaving the LDB file there after Access
> closes.


And if everyone exits elegantly, all will be fine. Unfortunately, that can't
be counted on 100% of the time, so while Delete permission is not required,
it is still a good idea.
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Arvin Meyer, MCP, MVP
http://www.datastrat.com
http://www.accessmvp.com
http://www.mvps.org/access


 
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David W. Fenton
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      25th Mar 2010
"Arvin Meyer [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> "David W. Fenton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D44AFCE69DADf99a49ed1d0c49c5bbb2@74.209.136.92...
>> "Arvin Meyer [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>> It may be locked down too tightly. Users need create and delete
>>> permissions, in addition to read and write. Create and delete
>>> are needed dor the .LDB file (locking file) If Access can't lock
>>> specific records and tables, it locks everything.

>>
>> Delete permission IS NOT REQUIRED. If you remove it, Jet will
>> behave just like Jet 2.x did, i.e., leaving the LDB file there
>> after Access closes.

>
> And if everyone exits elegantly, all will be fine. Unfortunately,
> that can't be counted on 100% of the time, so while Delete
> permission is not required, it is still a good idea.


That all depends. You can put some users in an NTFS security group
that has delete permissions (e.g., administrators) and when they
exit, if there's nobody else in the database, the LDB will be
deleted.

The only benefit to LDB deletion is if the LDB file gets corrupted.
If that's happening, you should probably try to figure out why. It's
usually gots by ungraceful exit from Access, which is itself more of
a problem endangering the integrity of your data than it is by
itself. That is, a corrupted LDB file is a symptom of a problem that
is much more problematic than having invalid entries in your LDB
file.

Undeleted LDB files were not a problem in Jet 2.x (Access 2 and
before), so they really aren't a significant problem in Jet 3.x and
higher.

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