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Lauren
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      2nd May 2005
is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders (_vti_cnf)
that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to show up
in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be something
on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
prevent these folders from being generated?

thanks,

Lauren


 
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Tom Pepper Willett
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      2nd May 2005
Those files are part of the FP server extensions. Are the extensions being
used on the host server? If so, those files are required.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/off...tid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/fron...o/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/und...ing/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...h;en-us;fp10se
===
"Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders (_vti_cnf)
| that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to show
up
| in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be
something
| on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
| prevent these folders from being generated?
|
| thanks,
|
| Lauren
|
|


 
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Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]
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      2nd May 2005
No, they do not cause red x's to show. Something else is.
To not have them on a Server, remove FP extensions from the Server.
That will ofcourse mean that you no longer will be able to use any
features in FP that requires the Extensions.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

Lauren wrote:
> is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders (_vti_cnf)
> that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to show up
> in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be something
> on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
> prevent these folders from being generated?
>
> thanks,
>
> Lauren
>
>

 
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Lauren
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      2nd May 2005
When I removed the _vti_cnf folders the red X's are gone and my site is back
to normal. My site does not use anything that requires FP extensions as
well as my company does not support them since it causes loop holes on their
server.


Lauren



"Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> No, they do not cause red x's to show. Something else is.
> To not have them on a Server, remove FP extensions from the Server.
> That will ofcourse mean that you no longer will be able to use any
> features in FP that requires the Extensions.
>
> Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
>
> Lauren wrote:
> > is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders

(_vti_cnf)
> > that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to show

up
> > in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be

something
> > on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
> > prevent these folders from being generated?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Lauren
> >
> >



 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      2nd May 2005
You can not remove the _vti folder from your local machine copy or FP will not be able to manage
your site content nor will it be a FP web / site.

If the live/remote server doesn't have the FP extensions, then they are not need on the live/remote
server. When you publish via File Menu | Publish Web/Site the _vti folders are never published
between servers, they are created by the FP extensions on the server, so if there are no FP
extensions, then they are not created. The only way they get on a live/remote server that doesn't
have the FP extensions, is for the user to upload them in some manner.

If you are working directly on the server via FP via a File Path, then you are working with a
Disk-based web, and the _vti folders are created because the FP client needs them to manage your
content. If you don't want the _vti folder, then you can't use FP.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WebMaster Resources(tm)
http://www.ycoln-resources.com
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

"Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> When I removed the _vti_cnf folders the red X's are gone and my site is back
> to normal. My site does not use anything that requires FP extensions as
> well as my company does not support them since it causes loop holes on their
> server.
>
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
> "Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> No, they do not cause red x's to show. Something else is.
>> To not have them on a Server, remove FP extensions from the Server.
>> That will ofcourse mean that you no longer will be able to use any
>> features in FP that requires the Extensions.
>>
>> Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
>>
>> Lauren wrote:
>> > is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders

> (_vti_cnf)
>> > that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to show

> up
>> > in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be

> something
>> > on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
>> > prevent these folders from being generated?
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> >
>> > Lauren
>> >
>> >

>
>



 
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Lauren
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      2nd May 2005
Thanks Tom,

I think you have answered my question. My situation is pretty different
than most. I created this website using FP but then we modified it so that
I do not publish anymore but just open and save the html and asp files
directly from the server. The site does not need any function that FP has
to offer as far as extensions go. The server most have somehow had the
extensions reinstalled, because this same exact issues occured when we
first put the site on this new server and it had the FP extensions on it.
So what we did was removed the extensions from the server and the vti_cnf
folders from the site. I have notified our server admin to verify that the
FP extensions are not installed and if so to remove them. I think it is a
possiblity that when I made updates to the site at one point that I
accidentally opened the folder as a web page and FP installed the
extensions, because normally I would only do a file / open and open one page
at time not allowing FP to turn the folder into a web folder. If this is
the case do you know what action(s) I need to take to correct this?

thank you,

Lauren



"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You can not remove the _vti folder from your local machine copy or FP will

not be able to manage
> your site content nor will it be a FP web / site.
>
> If the live/remote server doesn't have the FP extensions, then they are

not need on the live/remote
> server. When you publish via File Menu | Publish Web/Site the _vti folders

are never published
> between servers, they are created by the FP extensions on the server, so

if there are no FP
> extensions, then they are not created. The only way they get on a

live/remote server that doesn't
> have the FP extensions, is for the user to upload them in some manner.
>
> If you are working directly on the server via FP via a File Path, then you

are working with a
> Disk-based web, and the _vti folders are created because the FP client nee

ds them to manage your
> content. If you don't want the _vti folder, then you can't use FP.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> WebMaster Resources(tm)
> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> ==============================================
> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com
> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> ==============================================
>
> "Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > When I removed the _vti_cnf folders the red X's are gone and my site is

back
> > to normal. My site does not use anything that requires FP extensions as
> > well as my company does not support them since it causes loop holes on

their
> > server.
> >
> >
> > Lauren
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> No, they do not cause red x's to show. Something else is.
> >> To not have them on a Server, remove FP extensions from the Server.
> >> That will ofcourse mean that you no longer will be able to use any
> >> features in FP that requires the Extensions.
> >>
> >> Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
> >>
> >> Lauren wrote:
> >> > is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders

> > (_vti_cnf)
> >> > that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to

show
> > up
> >> > in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be

> > something
> >> > on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
> >> > prevent these folders from being generated?
> >> >
> >> > thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Lauren
> >> >
> >> >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      2nd May 2005
There is no way to stop FP from adding the _vti folders if the web/site is opened in FP. However the
_vti folders should not have any impact on images being displayed, so I think you have other issues.

The FP extensions without using any of the run-time features (forms, hit counter, etc.) allow you to
work (create/edit) directly on the live/remote server, recalculate hyperlinks, etc. FP's strong
point, is it ability to manage site content.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WebMaster Resources(tm)
http://www.ycoln-resources.com
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

"Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Tom,
>
> I think you have answered my question. My situation is pretty different
> than most. I created this website using FP but then we modified it so that
> I do not publish anymore but just open and save the html and asp files
> directly from the server. The site does not need any function that FP has
> to offer as far as extensions go. The server most have somehow had the
> extensions reinstalled, because this same exact issues occured when we
> first put the site on this new server and it had the FP extensions on it.
> So what we did was removed the extensions from the server and the vti_cnf
> folders from the site. I have notified our server admin to verify that the
> FP extensions are not installed and if so to remove them. I think it is a
> possiblity that when I made updates to the site at one point that I
> accidentally opened the folder as a web page and FP installed the
> extensions, because normally I would only do a file / open and open one page
> at time not allowing FP to turn the folder into a web folder. If this is
> the case do you know what action(s) I need to take to correct this?
>
> thank you,
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> You can not remove the _vti folder from your local machine copy or FP will

> not be able to manage
>> your site content nor will it be a FP web / site.
>>
>> If the live/remote server doesn't have the FP extensions, then they are

> not need on the live/remote
>> server. When you publish via File Menu | Publish Web/Site the _vti folders

> are never published
>> between servers, they are created by the FP extensions on the server, so

> if there are no FP
>> extensions, then they are not created. The only way they get on a

> live/remote server that doesn't
>> have the FP extensions, is for the user to upload them in some manner.
>>
>> If you are working directly on the server via FP via a File Path, then you

> are working with a
>> Disk-based web, and the _vti folders are created because the FP client nee

> ds them to manage your
>> content. If you don't want the _vti folder, then you can't use FP.
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>> WebMaster Resources(tm)
>> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
>> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
>> ==============================================
>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
>> http://support.microsoft.com
>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
>> ==============================================
>>
>> "Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > When I removed the _vti_cnf folders the red X's are gone and my site is

> back
>> > to normal. My site does not use anything that requires FP extensions as
>> > well as my company does not support them since it causes loop holes on

> their
>> > server.
>> >
>> >
>> > Lauren
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> No, they do not cause red x's to show. Something else is.
>> >> To not have them on a Server, remove FP extensions from the Server.
>> >> That will ofcourse mean that you no longer will be able to use any
>> >> features in FP that requires the Extensions.
>> >>
>> >> Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
>> >>
>> >> Lauren wrote:
>> >> > is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders
>> > (_vti_cnf)
>> >> > that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to

> show
>> > up
>> >> > in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be
>> > something
>> >> > on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
>> >> > prevent these folders from being generated?
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Lauren
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



 
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Lauren
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      2nd May 2005
Tom,

I'm really confused now because I have opened individual pages from the site
on the server and FP never added the vti_cnf folders before once I removed
them from the first time and only time I published.

Lauren


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> There is no way to stop FP from adding the _vti folders if the web/site is

opened in FP. However the
> _vti folders should not have any impact on images being displayed, so I

think you have other issues.
>
> The FP extensions without using any of the run-time features (forms, hit

counter, etc.) allow you to
> work (create/edit) directly on the live/remote server, recalculate

hyperlinks, etc. FP's strong
> point, is it ability to manage site content.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> WebMaster Resources(tm)
> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> ==============================================
> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com
> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> ==============================================
>
> "Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks Tom,
> >
> > I think you have answered my question. My situation is pretty different
> > than most. I created this website using FP but then we modified it so

that
> > I do not publish anymore but just open and save the html and asp files
> > directly from the server. The site does not need any function that FP

has
> > to offer as far as extensions go. The server most have somehow had the
> > extensions reinstalled, because this same exact issues occured when we
> > first put the site on this new server and it had the FP extensions on

it.
> > So what we did was removed the extensions from the server and the

vti_cnf
> > folders from the site. I have notified our server admin to verify that

the
> > FP extensions are not installed and if so to remove them. I think it is

a
> > possiblity that when I made updates to the site at one point that I
> > accidentally opened the folder as a web page and FP installed the
> > extensions, because normally I would only do a file / open and open one

page
> > at time not allowing FP to turn the folder into a web folder. If this

is
> > the case do you know what action(s) I need to take to correct this?
> >
> > thank you,
> >
> > Lauren
> >
> >
> >
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> You can not remove the _vti folder from your local machine copy or FP

will
> > not be able to manage
> >> your site content nor will it be a FP web / site.
> >>
> >> If the live/remote server doesn't have the FP extensions, then they are

> > not need on the live/remote
> >> server. When you publish via File Menu | Publish Web/Site the _vti

folders
> > are never published
> >> between servers, they are created by the FP extensions on the server,

so
> > if there are no FP
> >> extensions, then they are not created. The only way they get on a

> > live/remote server that doesn't
> >> have the FP extensions, is for the user to upload them in some manner.
> >>
> >> If you are working directly on the server via FP via a File Path, then

you
> > are working with a
> >> Disk-based web, and the _vti folders are created because the FP client

nee
> > ds them to manage your
> >> content. If you don't want the _vti folder, then you can't use FP.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ==============================================
> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> >> WebMaster Resources(tm)
> >> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> >> ==============================================
> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com
> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> >> ==============================================
> >>
> >> "Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > When I removed the _vti_cnf folders the red X's are gone and my site

is
> > back
> >> > to normal. My site does not use anything that requires FP extensions

as
> >> > well as my company does not support them since it causes loop holes

on
> > their
> >> > server.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lauren
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> No, they do not cause red x's to show. Something else is.
> >> >> To not have them on a Server, remove FP extensions from the Server.
> >> >> That will ofcourse mean that you no longer will be able to use any
> >> >> features in FP that requires the Extensions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lauren wrote:
> >> >> > is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders
> >> > (_vti_cnf)
> >> >> > that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's

to
> > show
> >> > up
> >> >> > in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be
> >> > something
> >> >> > on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order

to
> >> >> > prevent these folders from being generated?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lauren
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



 
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      2nd May 2005
Thomas,

I didn't think you could even open a page live on the server with FP without the extensions?? How could she be opening a page then? Or am I confused?

R.


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> There is no way to stop FP from adding the _vti folders if the web/site is opened in FP. However the
> _vti folders should not have any impact on images being displayed, so I think you have other issues.
>
> The FP extensions without using any of the run-time features (forms, hit counter, etc.) allow you to
> work (create/edit) directly on the live/remote server, recalculate hyperlinks, etc. FP's strong
> point, is it ability to manage site content.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> WebMaster Resources(tm)
> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> ==============================================
> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com
> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> ==============================================
>
> "Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks Tom,
> >
> > I think you have answered my question. My situation is pretty different
> > than most. I created this website using FP but then we modified it so that
> > I do not publish anymore but just open and save the html and asp files
> > directly from the server. The site does not need any function that FP has
> > to offer as far as extensions go. The server most have somehow had the
> > extensions reinstalled, because this same exact issues occured when we
> > first put the site on this new server and it had the FP extensions on it.
> > So what we did was removed the extensions from the server and the vti_cnf
> > folders from the site. I have notified our server admin to verify that the
> > FP extensions are not installed and if so to remove them. I think it is a
> > possiblity that when I made updates to the site at one point that I
> > accidentally opened the folder as a web page and FP installed the
> > extensions, because normally I would only do a file / open and open one page
> > at time not allowing FP to turn the folder into a web folder. If this is
> > the case do you know what action(s) I need to take to correct this?
> >
> > thank you,
> >
> > Lauren
> >
> >
> >
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> You can not remove the _vti folder from your local machine copy or FP will

> > not be able to manage
> >> your site content nor will it be a FP web / site.
> >>
> >> If the live/remote server doesn't have the FP extensions, then they are

> > not need on the live/remote
> >> server. When you publish via File Menu | Publish Web/Site the _vti folders

> > are never published
> >> between servers, they are created by the FP extensions on the server, so

> > if there are no FP
> >> extensions, then they are not created. The only way they get on a

> > live/remote server that doesn't
> >> have the FP extensions, is for the user to upload them in some manner.
> >>
> >> If you are working directly on the server via FP via a File Path, then you

> > are working with a
> >> Disk-based web, and the _vti folders are created because the FP client nee

> > ds them to manage your
> >> content. If you don't want the _vti folder, then you can't use FP.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ==============================================
> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> >> WebMaster Resources(tm)
> >> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> >> ==============================================
> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com
> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> >> ==============================================
> >>
> >> "Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > When I removed the _vti_cnf folders the red X's are gone and my site is

> > back
> >> > to normal. My site does not use anything that requires FP extensions as
> >> > well as my company does not support them since it causes loop holes on

> > their
> >> > server.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lauren
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> No, they do not cause red x's to show. Something else is.
> >> >> To not have them on a Server, remove FP extensions from the Server.
> >> >> That will ofcourse mean that you no longer will be able to use any
> >> >> features in FP that requires the Extensions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lauren wrote:
> >> >> > is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders
> >> > (_vti_cnf)
> >> >> > that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to

> > show
> >> > up
> >> >> > in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be
> >> > something
> >> >> > on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
> >> >> > prevent these folders from being generated?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lauren
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>

 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      2nd May 2005
Rob,

Lauren appears to be opening the page via the drive letter, not http.

--
==============================================
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"Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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Thomas,

I didn't think you could even open a page live on the server with FP without the extensions?? How
could she be opening a page then? Or am I confused?

R.


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> There is no way to stop FP from adding the _vti folders if the web/site is opened in FP. However
> the
> _vti folders should not have any impact on images being displayed, so I think you have other
> issues.
>
> The FP extensions without using any of the run-time features (forms, hit counter, etc.) allow you
> to
> work (create/edit) directly on the live/remote server, recalculate hyperlinks, etc. FP's strong
> point, is it ability to manage site content.
>
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> ==============================================
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> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
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>
> "Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks Tom,
> >
> > I think you have answered my question. My situation is pretty different
> > than most. I created this website using FP but then we modified it so that
> > I do not publish anymore but just open and save the html and asp files
> > directly from the server. The site does not need any function that FP has
> > to offer as far as extensions go. The server most have somehow had the
> > extensions reinstalled, because this same exact issues occured when we
> > first put the site on this new server and it had the FP extensions on it.
> > So what we did was removed the extensions from the server and the vti_cnf
> > folders from the site. I have notified our server admin to verify that the
> > FP extensions are not installed and if so to remove them. I think it is a
> > possiblity that when I made updates to the site at one point that I
> > accidentally opened the folder as a web page and FP installed the
> > extensions, because normally I would only do a file / open and open one page
> > at time not allowing FP to turn the folder into a web folder. If this is
> > the case do you know what action(s) I need to take to correct this?
> >
> > thank you,
> >
> > Lauren
> >
> >
> >
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> You can not remove the _vti folder from your local machine copy or FP will

> > not be able to manage
> >> your site content nor will it be a FP web / site.
> >>
> >> If the live/remote server doesn't have the FP extensions, then they are

> > not need on the live/remote
> >> server. When you publish via File Menu | Publish Web/Site the _vti folders

> > are never published
> >> between servers, they are created by the FP extensions on the server, so

> > if there are no FP
> >> extensions, then they are not created. The only way they get on a

> > live/remote server that doesn't
> >> have the FP extensions, is for the user to upload them in some manner.
> >>
> >> If you are working directly on the server via FP via a File Path, then you

> > are working with a
> >> Disk-based web, and the _vti folders are created because the FP client nee

> > ds them to manage your
> >> content. If you don't want the _vti folder, then you can't use FP.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ==============================================
> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
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> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com
> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> >> ==============================================
> >>
> >> "Lauren" <c-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > When I removed the _vti_cnf folders the red X's are gone and my site is

> > back
> >> > to normal. My site does not use anything that requires FP extensions as
> >> > well as my company does not support them since it causes loop holes on

> > their
> >> > server.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lauren
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> No, they do not cause red x's to show. Something else is.
> >> >> To not have them on a Server, remove FP extensions from the Server.
> >> >> That will ofcourse mean that you no longer will be able to use any
> >> >> features in FP that requires the Extensions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lauren wrote:
> >> >> > is there a way to turn off the automatically generated folders
> >> > (_vti_cnf)
> >> >> > that frontpage 2000 creates in your site. it is causing red x's to

> > show
> >> > up
> >> >> > in my site due to the way we have it set up. also could there be
> >> > something
> >> >> > on the server side that needs to be removed or turned off in order to
> >> >> > prevent these folders from being generated?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lauren
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



 
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