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98 to XP - it really shouldn't be THIS dfifficult!

 
 
JJ-UK
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      2nd Jun 2004
Here's the deal

Win98 (192.168.0.2) can PING WinXP (192.168.0.1). However, WinXP can't ping
the Win98 box!

But look in Network Neighbourhood and even though I've logged in to the
workgroup it says 'Unable to browse the network'.

Go to the WinXP box and go to 'My Network Places' and you can see the Win98
box (even though you can't ping it from XP), but when you try and open it
"Unable to access..."

It's utterly maddening.

What gives? Any ideas people?

Thanks in advance

JJ (UK)


 
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JR
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      2nd Jun 2004
Do you have any firewalls installed ?
>-----Original Message-----
>Here's the deal
>
>Win98 (192.168.0.2) can PING WinXP (192.168.0.1).

However, WinXP can't ping
>the Win98 box!
>
>But look in Network Neighbourhood and even though I've

logged in to the
>workgroup it says 'Unable to browse the network'.
>
>Go to the WinXP box and go to 'My Network Places' and

you can see the Win98
>box (even though you can't ping it from XP), but when

you try and open it
>"Unable to access..."
>
>It's utterly maddening.
>
>What gives? Any ideas people?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>JJ (UK)
>
>
>.
>

 
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JJ-UK
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      2nd Jun 2004
No, at least not the built-in one on the XP box...

JJ (UK)

"JR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Do you have any firewalls installed ?


> >-----Original Message-----
> >Here's the deal
> >
> >Win98 (192.168.0.2) can PING WinXP (192.168.0.1).

> However, WinXP can't ping
> >the Win98 box!
> >
> >But look in Network Neighbourhood and even though I've

> logged in to the
> >workgroup it says 'Unable to browse the network'.
> >
> >Go to the WinXP box and go to 'My Network Places' and

> you can see the Win98
> >box (even though you can't ping it from XP), but when

> you try and open it
> >"Unable to access..."
> >
> >It's utterly maddening.
> >
> >What gives? Any ideas people?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >JJ (UK)
> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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      2nd Jun 2004
I am having the a similiar problem. We just upgraded from a Windows NT 4.0 server to a Windows 2003 server. Before the upgrade the Windows 98 and Windows XP PC in our network could share files and printers. Now if we try to access a Windows 98 box from a Windows XP box we get "is not accessible" message. Also, if we try to access Windows XP from Windows 98 we get an error.

Windows 98 boxes can still speak to each other.
 
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Ron Martell
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      2nd Jun 2004
"JJ-UK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Here's the deal
>
>Win98 (192.168.0.2) can PING WinXP (192.168.0.1). However, WinXP can't ping
>the Win98 box!
>
>But look in Network Neighbourhood and even though I've logged in to the
>workgroup it says 'Unable to browse the network'.
>
>Go to the WinXP box and go to 'My Network Places' and you can see the Win98
>box (even though you can't ping it from XP), but when you try and open it
>"Unable to access..."
>
>It's utterly maddening.
>
>What gives? Any ideas people?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>JJ (UK)
>


1. Delete the entry for the Win98 box in "My Network Places" and then
add it back again.

2. Do you have a firewall installed on the Win98 box? If so try
shutting it off.

3. Is the workgroup name *exactly* the same on both computers?

4. Are the computer names *different* for the two computers?

5. Is either computer more than 12 characters long or does it contain
any blank spaces or special characters? If so change the name so that
it is not more than 12 characters long with no blank spaces and no
characters other than letters a-z and/or numbers 0-9.

6. How is your network configured (wired)?
- just the two computers connected with a cross-over cable?
- using a hub?
- using a cable/dsl router?

7. If you are using a cross-over cable or a hub and have specified the
i.p. addresses in TCP/IP Properties then make sure you have set the
subnet mask as 255.255.255.0 on both machines.

8. If you are using a cable/dsl router then do not repeat do not
specify the i.p. addresses for the machines. Instead allow the DHCP
server in the router to assign the i.p.'s automatically.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
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JJ-UK
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      3rd Jun 2004
"Ron Martell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> 1. Delete the entry for the Win98 box in "My Network Places" and then
> add it back again.


Didn't know you could delete an entry in My Network Places. I'll give that a
go.

> 2. Do you have a firewall installed on the Win98 box? If so try
> shutting it off.


Certainly not the built-in Firewall feature in the Network Places properties
screen. I will look for third-part Firewalls though.

> 3. Is the workgroup name *exactly* the same on both computers?


Yes, but I'll triple-check.

> 4. Are the computer names *different* for the two computers?


Yes.

> 5. Is either computer more than 12 characters long or does it contain
> any blank spaces or special characters?


Nope. One is called 'MARLENE' the other is called 'NEW'

> 6. How is your network configured (wired)?


Via a 5 port hub.

> 7. If you are using a cross-over cable or a hub and have specified the
> i.p. addresses in TCP/IP Properties then make sure you have set the
> subnet mask as 255.255.255.0 on both machines.


Yep, 255.255.255.0

> 8. If you are using a cable/dsl router then do not repeat do not
> specify the i.p. addresses for the machines. Instead allow the DHCP
> server in the router to assign the i.p.'s automatically.
>
> Good luck


Thanks!

JJ (UK)


 
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Chief
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      3rd Jun 2004
Just a question - are you using Mcafee Firewall?
>-----Original Message-----
>Here's the deal
>
>Win98 (192.168.0.2) can PING WinXP (192.168.0.1).

However, WinXP can't ping
>the Win98 box!
>
>But look in Network Neighbourhood and even though I've

logged in to the
>workgroup it says 'Unable to browse the network'.
>
>Go to the WinXP box and go to 'My Network Places' and

you can see the Win98
>box (even though you can't ping it from XP), but when

you try and open it
>"Unable to access..."
>
>It's utterly maddening.
>
>What gives? Any ideas people?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>JJ (UK)
>
>
>.
>

 
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Ben Foster
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      3rd Jun 2004
I had this problem also. I was told to install an IPX/SPX/NetBIOS protocol
on both computers and that enabled both computers to fully communicate with
each other.

To Do This:
1/ Go to your LAN Connection Properties
2/ Where it says 'this connection uses the following items:' If it doesn't
say something like IPX/SPX/NetBIOS protocol then go to Install
3/ Click Protocol then click Add
4/ Find IPX/SPX/NetBIOS protocol then click ok

Hope this helps,
Ben Foster


"JJ-UK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Ron Martell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > 1. Delete the entry for the Win98 box in "My Network Places" and then
> > add it back again.

>
> Didn't know you could delete an entry in My Network Places. I'll give that

a
> go.
>
> > 2. Do you have a firewall installed on the Win98 box? If so try
> > shutting it off.

>
> Certainly not the built-in Firewall feature in the Network Places

properties
> screen. I will look for third-part Firewalls though.
>
> > 3. Is the workgroup name *exactly* the same on both computers?

>
> Yes, but I'll triple-check.
>
> > 4. Are the computer names *different* for the two computers?

>
> Yes.
>
> > 5. Is either computer more than 12 characters long or does it contain
> > any blank spaces or special characters?

>
> Nope. One is called 'MARLENE' the other is called 'NEW'
>
> > 6. How is your network configured (wired)?

>
> Via a 5 port hub.
>
> > 7. If you are using a cross-over cable or a hub and have specified the
> > i.p. addresses in TCP/IP Properties then make sure you have set the
> > subnet mask as 255.255.255.0 on both machines.

>
> Yep, 255.255.255.0
>
> > 8. If you are using a cable/dsl router then do not repeat do not
> > specify the i.p. addresses for the machines. Instead allow the DHCP
> > server in the router to assign the i.p.'s automatically.
> >
> > Good luck

>
> Thanks!
>
> JJ (UK)
>
>



 
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JJ-UK
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      3rd Jun 2004
"Chief" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Just a question - are you using Mcafee Firewall?


Not sure, but it's on my list to check...

Cheers

JJ (UK)


 
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      21st Jun 2004
I was wondering if you absolutely need a router to share an internet connection.

Do you?? Or do you have to be plugged into a router at all times?

"Ben Foster" wrote:

> I had this problem also. I was told to install an IPX/SPX/NetBIOS protocol
> on both computers and that enabled both computers to fully communicate with
> each other.
>
> To Do This:
> 1/ Go to your LAN Connection Properties
> 2/ Where it says 'this connection uses the following items:' If it doesn't
> say something like IPX/SPX/NetBIOS protocol then go to Install
> 3/ Click Protocol then click Add
> 4/ Find IPX/SPX/NetBIOS protocol then click ok
>
> Hope this helps,
> Ben Foster
>
>
> "JJ-UK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsWDvc.529$IR1.149@newsfe3-gui...
> > "Ron Martell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > > 1. Delete the entry for the Win98 box in "My Network Places" and then
> > > add it back again.

> >
> > Didn't know you could delete an entry in My Network Places. I'll give that

> a
> > go.
> >
> > > 2. Do you have a firewall installed on the Win98 box? If so try
> > > shutting it off.

> >
> > Certainly not the built-in Firewall feature in the Network Places

> properties
> > screen. I will look for third-part Firewalls though.
> >
> > > 3. Is the workgroup name *exactly* the same on both computers?

> >
> > Yes, but I'll triple-check.
> >
> > > 4. Are the computer names *different* for the two computers?

> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > 5. Is either computer more than 12 characters long or does it contain
> > > any blank spaces or special characters?

> >
> > Nope. One is called 'MARLENE' the other is called 'NEW'
> >
> > > 6. How is your network configured (wired)?

> >
> > Via a 5 port hub.
> >
> > > 7. If you are using a cross-over cable or a hub and have specified the
> > > i.p. addresses in TCP/IP Properties then make sure you have set the
> > > subnet mask as 255.255.255.0 on both machines.

> >
> > Yep, 255.255.255.0
> >
> > > 8. If you are using a cable/dsl router then do not repeat do not
> > > specify the i.p. addresses for the machines. Instead allow the DHCP
> > > server in the router to assign the i.p.'s automatically.
> > >
> > > Good luck

> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > JJ (UK)
> >
> >

>
>
>

 
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