I can get either an ATI (built by) 9700 Pro or ATI (built by) 9800 non-Pro
for the same price.

In benchmarks and games both cards appear to be very close to each other in
performance.

In your opinion which card would be the better choice?

Thanks in advance for any and all responses.


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"callsignviper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I can get either an ATI (built by) 9700 Pro or ATI (built by) 9800 non-Pro
> for the same price.
>
> In benchmarks and games both cards appear to be very close to each other
in
> performance.
>
> In your opinion which card would be the better choice?
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all responses.
>

It's not as simple a choice as it seems. The ATI 9700 Pro is a known, you
can find benchmarks all over the net.

The 9800 non-pro has a few updated features and may or may not overclock to
Pro speeds.

Bottom line is that the 9800 has the potential for better performance, but
you won't know until you try.

Me, I'm a gambler. YMMV.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:43:37 GMT, callsignviper wrote:

> I can get either an ATI (built by) 9700 Pro or ATI (built by) 9800 non-Pro
> for the same price.
>
> In benchmarks and games both cards appear to be very close to each other in
> performance.
>
> In your opinion which card would be the better choice?
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all responses.

On default clock rates they both have allmost same performance. I suggest
that you go with the one that's cheaper.

I'd go with the 9800 non pro because of the improved hardware architecture.
It's the same as the 9800 pro except for slower clocked VPU and memory. And
who knows, you may be able to overclock it. In fact chances are you will be
able to.

JK

"callsignviper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I can get either an ATI (built by) 9700 Pro or ATI (built by) 9800 non-Pro
> for the same price.
>
> In benchmarks and games both cards appear to be very close to each other
in
> performance.
>
> In your opinion which card would be the better choice?
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all responses.
>
>
> --
> callsignviper
>
>
> The truth is out there. You just have to look in the right places and ask
> the right questions.
>
>

"Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "callsignviper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Zk8sb.125620$ao4.387611@attbi_s51...
> > I can get either an ATI (built by) 9700 Pro or ATI (built by) 9800
non-Pro
> > for the same price.
> >
> > In benchmarks and games both cards appear to be very close to each other
> in
> > performance.
> >
> > In your opinion which card would be the better choice?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any and all responses.
> >
>
> It's not as simple a choice as it seems. The ATI 9700 Pro is a known, you
> can find benchmarks all over the net.

I agree and I've been comparing benchmarks, etc. until I was at the
saturation point!


> The 9800 non-pro has a few updated features and may or may not overclock
to
> Pro speeds.

That will depend a lot on the installed ram on the 9800 card.


> Bottom line is that the 9800 has the potential for better performance, but
> you won't know until you try.

Fortunately the store that has both cards has an excellent return policy so
I may have to just try one or the other.


> Me, I'm a gambler. YMMV.


Thanks for the input.

I'm not much of a gambler but it almost looks like a flip of a coin to
decide!


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"Marko Svirèiæ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bord8m$l7t$(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:43:37 GMT, callsignviper wrote:
>
> > I can get either an ATI (built by) 9700 Pro or ATI (built by) 9800
non-Pro
> > for the same price.
> >
> > In benchmarks and games both cards appear to be very close to each other
in
> > performance.
> >
> > In your opinion which card would be the better choice?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any and all responses.
>
> On default clock rates they both have allmost same performance. I suggest
> that you go with the one that's cheaper.

That's the problem I'm having.........they're both the same price. If the
either card drops in price again then it will be an easy decision.


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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:25:22 GMT, callsignviper wrote:

>> On default clock rates they both have allmost same performance. I suggest
>> that you go with the one that's cheaper.

> That's the problem I'm having.........they're both the same price. If the
> either card drops in price again then it will be an easy decision.

Then go for the 9800. It has, theoretically, more advanced pixel shaders,
and stencil buffer optimizations, again theoretically.

Circuit City has the 9800 for $249 this week, if you can find one!

"jack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Circuit City has the 9800 for $249 this week, if you can find one!
>
>

One of my Circuit City stores has at least 3 in stock!

I think $249.99 is the new MSRP since all the local stores, when they have
the 9800 non-Pro in stock, sell them for that price.

Just waiting to see what will be available on Black Friday! ;-)

Thanks.


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the right questions.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:17:33 GMT
"callsignviper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
> "jack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsHVsb.140259$mZ5.967162@attbi_s54...
> > Circuit City has the 9800 for $249 this week, if you can find one!
> >
> >
>
> One of my Circuit City stores has at least 3 in stock!
>
> I think $249.99 is the new MSRP since all the local stores, when they
> have the 9800 non-Pro in stock, sell them for that price.

The Web site shows that as the price, and 349.99 for the Pro. If you go
to the Web site it will tell you which stores near you have stock--all
of them in my area have the non-pro.

> Just waiting to see what will be available on Black Friday! ;-)
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> callsignviper
>
>
> The truth is out there. You just have to look in the right places and
> ask the right questions.
>
>


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