Any reviews on these 2 cards.
I am running a 9500 np and am happy with it, but I'm looking to upgrade my
brothers video card for about the price of one of these 2 cards. Around $150
US.
Suggestions?
TIA, Amir

About the same in performance unless you are lucky with your 9800se,i have a
9800serAIW and am very happy with it as it is unlockable and overclockable.


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"Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:isWdnQwVqMVpewyiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Any reviews on these 2 cards.
> I am running a 9500 np and am happy with it, but I'm looking to upgrade my
> brothers video card for about the price of one of these 2 cards. Around
$150
> US.
> Suggestions?

First a couple of questions about your 9500 np. Does it have 128 megs? Is it
on a red pcb with the memory modules arranged in an L-shape, two on the top
and two on the side?

If the answer to both questions is yes, you may not have to spend another
dime. You may be able to soft-mod it to a 9700 and overclock it to Pro
speeds.

My 9500 np is now a 9700 Pro.

If you do wind up buying a new card, the best option is to buy a 9700 or
9800 non-pro and overclock.

Yo Skid, You are getting ahead of the question.
my 9500np does OC to a 9700 and benchmarks fine(almost 12000 in 3D mark
2001) but shows some glitches in some of my games, so I'm running the 9500
drivers quite happily. The question was for a new card for my brother who is
currently running a gForce 2 MX400. He only wants to spend around $150,
though I'm sure I could talk him into a wee bit more if it would be worth
it.
TIA, Amir


"Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:hjzkb.181411$%h1.171036@sccrnsc02...
:
: "Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:isWdnQwVqMVpewyiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
: > Any reviews on these 2 cards.
: > I am running a 9500 np and am happy with it, but I'm looking to upgrade
my
: > brothers video card for about the price of one of these 2 cards. Around
: $150
: > US.
: > Suggestions?
:
: First a couple of questions about your 9500 np. Does it have 128 megs? Is
it
: on a red pcb with the memory modules arranged in an L-shape, two on the
top
: and two on the side?
:
: If the answer to both questions is yes, you may not have to spend another
: dime. You may be able to soft-mod it to a 9700 and overclock it to Pro
: speeds.
:
: My 9500 np is now a 9700 Pro.
:
: If you do wind up buying a new card, the best option is to buy a 9700 or
: 9800 non-pro and overclock.
:
:

In that case, www.newegg.com has an OEM Sapphire Radeon 9600 Pro for $149
with free shipping. Compared to a GF2 MX, it's like a Harley against a
Vespa.

"Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dPOdndwUCInHjA6iRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yo Skid, You are getting ahead of the question.
> my 9500np does OC to a 9700 and benchmarks fine(almost 12000 in 3D mark
> 2001) but shows some glitches in some of my games, so I'm running the 9500
> drivers quite happily. The question was for a new card for my brother who
is
> currently running a gForce 2 MX400. He only wants to spend around $150,
> though I'm sure I could talk him into a wee bit more if it would be worth
> it.
> TIA, Amir
>
>
> "Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:hjzkb.181411$%h1.171036@sccrnsc02...
> :
> : "Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> : news:isWdnQwVqMVpewyiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> : > Any reviews on these 2 cards.
> : > I am running a 9500 np and am happy with it, but I'm looking to
upgrade
> my
> : > brothers video card for about the price of one of these 2 cards.
Around
> : $150
> : > US.
> : > Suggestions?
> :
> : First a couple of questions about your 9500 np. Does it have 128 megs?
Is
> it
> : on a red pcb with the memory modules arranged in an L-shape, two on the
> top
> : and two on the side?
> :
> : If the answer to both questions is yes, you may not have to spend
another
> : dime. You may be able to soft-mod it to a 9700 and overclock it to Pro
> : speeds.
> :
> : My 9500 np is now a 9700 Pro.
> :
> : If you do wind up buying a new card, the best option is to buy a 9700 or
> : 9800 non-pro and overclock.
> :
> :
>
>

Jeez,
BUT HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE 9800SE?
ROTFLMAO.

Amir.




"Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1ZRkb.189022$%h1.179167@sccrnsc02...
: In that case, www.newegg.com has an OEM Sapphire Radeon 9600 Pro for $149
: with free shipping. Compared to a GF2 MX, it's like a Harley against a
: Vespa.
:
: "Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:dPOdndwUCInHjA6iRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
: > Yo Skid, You are getting ahead of the question.
: > my 9500np does OC to a 9700 and benchmarks fine(almost 12000 in 3D mark
: > 2001) but shows some glitches in some of my games, so I'm running the
9500
: > drivers quite happily. The question was for a new card for my brother
who
: is
: > currently running a gForce 2 MX400. He only wants to spend around $150,
: > though I'm sure I could talk him into a wee bit more if it would be
worth
: > it.
: > TIA, Amir
: >
: >
: > "Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: > news:hjzkb.181411$%h1.171036@sccrnsc02...
: > :
: > : "Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: > : news:isWdnQwVqMVpewyiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
: > : > Any reviews on these 2 cards.
: > : > I am running a 9500 np and am happy with it, but I'm looking to
: upgrade
: > my
: > : > brothers video card for about the price of one of these 2 cards.
: Around
: > : $150
: > : > US.
: > : > Suggestions?
: > :
: > : First a couple of questions about your 9500 np. Does it have 128 megs?
: Is
: > it
: > : on a red pcb with the memory modules arranged in an L-shape, two on
the
: > top
: > : and two on the side?
: > :
: > : If the answer to both questions is yes, you may not have to spend
: another
: > : dime. You may be able to soft-mod it to a 9700 and overclock it to Pro
: > : speeds.
: > :
: > : My 9500 np is now a 9700 Pro.
: > :
: > : If you do wind up buying a new card, the best option is to buy a 9700
or
: > : 9800 non-pro and overclock.
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

"Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newssqdnTWxLYHf_gmiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Jeez,
> BUT HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE 9800SE?
> ROTFLMAO.
>
> Amir.

Check the benchmarks here:

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...apphire-4.html

They look pretty close, but I'd go with the 9600 Pro over the 9800 SE,
unless you get lucky and find one that can be modded.

That review shows two 9800se. A Saphire with 128 bit memory and an ATI with
256 bit. The Saphire sucks badly and the ATI just manages to keep pace with
the 9600pro. All in all, the 9600pro is the better buy.

Dave


"Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newssqdnTWxLYHf_gmiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Jeez,
> > BUT HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE 9800SE?
> > ROTFLMAO.
> >
> > Amir.
>
> Check the benchmarks here:
>
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...apphire-4.html
>
> They look pretty close, but I'd go with the 9600 Pro over the 9800 SE,
> unless you get lucky and find one that can be modded.
>
>

1110854 ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB AGP(8X) W/DVI & TV-OUT (Retail) Detail Specs (*While Supplies Last!) $164.25 YES

AA23370 ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 256MB 8XAGP DDR WITH TV & DVI (OEM - POWERED BY ATI) Detail Specs $155.00 YES


which one the 128 or the 256?

"DaveL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message newsaydnak2qo7cxwiiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> That review shows two 9800se. A Saphire with 128 bit memory and an ATI with
> 256 bit. The Saphire sucks badly and the ATI just manages to keep pace with
> the 9600pro. All in all, the 9600pro is the better buy.
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Hfclb.837140$Ho3.245399@sccrnsc03...
> >
> > "Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > newssqdnTWxLYHf_gmiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Jeez,
> > > BUT HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE 9800SE?
> > > ROTFLMAO.
> > >
> > > Amir.
> >
> > Check the benchmarks here:
> >
> > http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...apphire-4.html
> >
> > They look pretty close, but I'd go with the 9600 Pro over the 9800 SE,
> > unless you get lucky and find one that can be modded.
> >
> >
>

Thanks for the link, but I couldn't find a 9600 in there.


"Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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:
: "Amir Facade" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: newssqdnTWxLYHf_gmiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
: > Jeez,
: > BUT HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE 9800SE?
: > ROTFLMAO.
: >
: > Amir.
:
: Check the benchmarks here:
:
: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...apphire-4.html
:
: They look pretty close, but I'd go with the 9600 Pro over the 9800 SE,
: unless you get lucky and find one that can be modded.
:
: