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8MB worth having for desktop use?

 
 
Mark M
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      9th Oct 2003
Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB or 8MB buffer. For
example the Maxtor Plus 9.

Is there much performance difference between the 2MB and 8MB drives
when used in a desktop PC?
 
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Rod Speed
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      9th Oct 2003

Mark M <(E-Mail Removed)>
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> Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB or 8MB buffer.
> For example the Maxtor Plus 9.


In fact most decent drives now.

Some indecent ones too.

> Is there much performance difference between
> the 2MB and 8MB drives when used in a desktop PC?


Nope. I bet you wouldnt be able to pick which system
had the 8MB cache in a proper double blind trial with
you not being allowed to run a diagnostic or benchmark.


 
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      9th Oct 2003
Previously Mark M <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB or 8MB buffer. For
> example the Maxtor Plus 9.


> Is there much performance difference between the 2MB and 8MB drives
> when used in a desktop PC?


Not much. But >=120GB the 8MB models have 3 years warranty instead
of one.

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      9th Oct 2003

Arno Wagner <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Mark M <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote


>> Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB
>> or 8MB buffer. For example the Maxtor Plus 9.


>> Is there much performance difference between the
>> 2MB and 8MB drives when used in a desktop PC?


> Not much. But >=120GB the 8MB models
> have 3 years warranty instead of one.


The Samsungs have a 3 year warranty regardless of the cache size.


 
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Timothy Daniels
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      9th Oct 2003

"Arno Wagner" spake thusly:
> Previously Mark M wrote:
> > Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB or 8MB buffer.
> > For example the Maxtor Plus 9.

>
> > Is there much performance difference between the 2MB and
> > 8MB drives when used in a desktop PC?

>
> Not much. But >=120GB the 8MB models have 3 years warranty
> instead of one.



In certain situations typically found in desktop/workstation tasks
(as opposed to the random accesses found in server tasks), the
advantage of 8MB over 2MB caches can be 30% or more. See:
http://www.storagereview.com/php/tik...ge=BufferSizes


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Timothy Daniels
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      9th Oct 2003

> Previously Mark M wrote:
> > Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB or

> 8MB buffer. For example the Maxtor Plus 9.



FYI, the DiamondMax Plus 9s had 2MB caches in the early
models, and they expanded the caches to 8MB later on. In model
nos. such as 6Y060L0 vs. 6Y060M0, "L" stands for 2MB cache,
"M" stands for 8MB cache, and "060" stands for 60GB hard disk
capacity.


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Rod Speed
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      10th Oct 2003

"Timothy Daniels" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:YZqdnfA9Xs-(E-Mail Removed)...
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> "Arno Wagner" spake thusly:
> > Previously Mark M wrote:
> > > Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB or 8MB buffer.
> > > For example the Maxtor Plus 9.

> >
> > > Is there much performance difference between the 2MB and
> > > 8MB drives when used in a desktop PC?

> >
> > Not much. But >=120GB the 8MB models have 3 years warranty
> > instead of one.

>
>
> In certain situations typically found in desktop/workstation tasks
> (as opposed to the random accesses found in server tasks), the
> advantage of 8MB over 2MB caches can be 30% or more. See:
> http://www.storagereview.com/php/tik...ge=BufferSizes


Bet you wouldnt be able to pick which system has the
8MB cache drive in a proper double blind trial with you
not being allowed to run a benchmark or diagnostic.


 
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Mark M wrote:

> Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB or 8MB buffer. For
> example the Maxtor Plus 9.
>
> Is there much performance difference between the 2MB and 8MB drives
> when used in a desktop PC?


I would bet $1 the boot time will be shorter with a 8MB buffer.



 
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J.Clarke
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      10th Oct 2003
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")-()-(" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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>
> Mark M wrote:
>
> > Some ATA hard drives come with either a 2MB or 8MB buffer. For
> > example the Maxtor Plus 9.
> >
> > Is there much performance difference between the 2MB and 8MB drives
> > when used in a desktop PC?

>
> I would bet $1 the boot time will be shorter with a 8MB buffer.


All else being equal it will, but not by much. In any case the boot
time is a poor measure of performance.

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Timothy Daniels
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      10th Oct 2003

"Rod Speed" wrote:>
> "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
> > In certain situations typically found in desktop/workstation tasks
> > (as opposed to the random accesses found in server tasks), the
> > advantage of 8MB over 2MB caches can be 30% or more. See:
> > http://www.storagereview.com/php/tik...ge=BufferSizes

>
> Bet you wouldnt be able to pick which system has the
> 8MB cache drive in a proper double blind trial with you
> not being allowed to run a benchmark or diagnostic.



I wouldn't take that bet because I agree with your premise -
that it takes a special type of app to show the advantage of
larger HD caches. I think, though, that the HD makers see a
growth in usage of that kind of app, and I suspect that it is
graphic and video editing and maybe video games. But that
aside, aren't most advances incremental and not worth the
price initially paid by the early adopters?


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