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      26th Jan 2009
hi

I had a nice canon i950 for a good while, seems the black head
totally crapped out all the cleanings seem not to help at all i get
zero black

Got it originally because the picture quality was really good it
was a 6 color using the photo c and m as well as the b/c/m/y
didn't cost to much either


so i am looking around seems canon only has c/m/y 4color
printers pretty low cost but i wouldn't call them photo printers

and then it sorta takes a big jump in price for their photo
printer which is wide format which i don't need

are there any high quality photo printers 6or more colors non wide
format? from canon or at least simular?


seems kinda the same from epson thou i am not a epson fan

Just wondering if i was missing /overlooked anything here


just looking for some tips I didn't want to spend $$ for the wide
format canon just to get photo qual
 
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IntergalacticExpandingPanda
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      26th Jan 2009
On Jan 25, 8:26*pm, ml <m...@di.net> wrote:
> hi
>
> I had *a nice *canon i950 *for * a good while, * seems the black head *
> totally *crapped out *all the cleanings * seem not to help at all *i get
> zero black *
>
> Got *it originally because the picture quality was *really *good * it
> was *a 6 color *using *the photo c *and m * as well as the *b/c/m/y
> didn't cost *to much *either * *
>
> so *i am looking *around * seems *canon *only has *c/m/y *4color
> printers *pretty low cost * *but i wouldn't call them photo printers


On the canon front you can get samples of your pics on a few of their
new printers here http://www.trymyphoto.com

But your choice is limited to
mp980 4 + grey + text ($299.99 )
mp620 4 + text
pixma pro

Epson obviously still has a4 printers with 6 tanks. Their 1400 wide
you can get refurbished from them for like $160

But the short is canon has abandoned 6 tank a4 printers. They had
"some" on their estore refurbished but they all seem to be gone.

You may be able to find one of their all in ones, the mp960 and
mp970.

http://www.buy.com/prod/canon-pixma-...202984998.html

There we are $117.60 shipped
"Ships from and sold by Adorama Camera"


 
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Joel
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      28th Jan 2009
ml <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> hi
>
> I had a nice canon i950 for a good while, seems the black head
> totally crapped out all the cleanings seem not to help at all i get
> zero black


I don't own any Canon printer to know much about it, but if the ink
cartrisge has built-in print-head like HP printer then replacing the ink
cartridge should solve the blog problem.

> Got it originally because the picture quality was really good it
> was a 6 color using the photo c and m as well as the b/c/m/y
> didn't cost to much either
>
>
> so i am looking around seems canon only has c/m/y 4color
> printers pretty low cost but i wouldn't call them photo printers
>
> and then it sorta takes a big jump in price for their photo
> printer which is wide format which i don't need
>
> are there any high quality photo printers 6or more colors non wide
> format? from canon or at least simular?
>
>
> seems kinda the same from epson thou i am not a epson fan


Well if you are not Epson fan then you can always learn to be HP fan. Me?
I am Epson fan and it has been keeping me cool for ages.

> Just wondering if i was missing /overlooked anything here


May be you miss being Epson fan?

> just looking for some tips I didn't want to spend $$ for the wide
> format canon just to get photo qual


You do not have to do anything you don't want. GOOGLE can provide you lot
of good source from PRICE to quality.

I like my Epson RX680
 
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Burt
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      28th Jan 2009

"ml" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> hi
>
> I had a nice canon i950 for a good while, seems the black head
> totally crapped out all the cleanings seem not to help at all i get
> zero black
>
> Got it originally because the picture quality was really good it
> was a 6 color using the photo c and m as well as the b/c/m/y
> didn't cost to much either
>
>
> so i am looking around seems canon only has c/m/y 4color
> printers pretty low cost but i wouldn't call them photo printers
>
> and then it sorta takes a big jump in price for their photo
> printer which is wide format which i don't need
>
> are there any high quality photo printers 6or more colors non wide
> format? from canon or at least simular?
>
>
> seems kinda the same from epson thou i am not a epson fan
>
> Just wondering if i was missing /overlooked anything here
>
>
> just looking for some tips I didn't want to spend $$ for the wide
> format canon just to get photo qual


I have a canon i960 (six color printer), comparable to your I950, that
produces excellent photos. My wife uses an ip5000, an early one picoliter
four color printer (plus a black pigmented ink cart for text) that prints
beautiful photos as well. Looking at side by side comparison of prints from
the two printers, they are very hard to tell by which printer they were
produced. Check out the reviews of the more recent Canon four color plus
black pigmented ink cart printers. As another person posted, you can get
samples of your files printed by these printers to evaluate.


 
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      28th Jan 2009
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:09:43 -0800, Burt wrote:

> "ml" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:m-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> hi
>>
>> I had a nice canon i950 for a good while, seems the black head
>> totally crapped out all the cleanings seem not to help at all i get
>> zero black
>>
>> Got it originally because the picture quality was really good it
>> was a 6 color using the photo c and m as well as the b/c/m/y
>> didn't cost to much either
>>
>>
>> so i am looking around seems canon only has c/m/y 4color
>> printers pretty low cost but i wouldn't call them photo printers
>>
>> and then it sorta takes a big jump in price for their photo
>> printer which is wide format which i don't need
>>
>> are there any high quality photo printers 6or more colors non wide
>> format? from canon or at least simular?
>>
>>
>> seems kinda the same from epson thou i am not a epson fan
>>
>> Just wondering if i was missing /overlooked anything here
>>
>>
>> just looking for some tips I didn't want to spend $$ for the wide
>> format canon just to get photo qual

>
> I have a canon i960 (six color printer), comparable to your I950, that
> produces excellent photos. My wife uses an ip5000, an early one picoliter
> four color printer (plus a black pigmented ink cart for text) that prints
> beautiful photos as well. Looking at side by side comparison of prints from
> the two printers, they are very hard to tell by which printer they were
> produced. Check out the reviews of the more recent Canon four color plus
> black pigmented ink cart printers. As another person posted, you can get
> samples of your files printed by these printers to evaluate.


Yes there is a difference between the two. But when you use crap ink that
is not recommended by the mfg then both are sub par and would be difficult
to tell apart.
 
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IntergalacticExpandingPanda
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      28th Jan 2009
On Jan 28, 10:43*am, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote:

> Yes there is a difference between the two. *But when you use crap ink that
> is not recommended by the mfg then both are sub par and would be difficult
> to tell apart.


That is a non sequitur, your facts do not correlate.

Measekite, have you compared the output between your IP4000 and any
newer canon? ANY NEWER CANON?


 
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      29th Jan 2009

"IntergalacticExpandingPanda" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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On Jan 28, 10:43 am, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote:

> Yes there is a difference between the two. But when you use crap ink that
> is not recommended by the mfg then both are sub par and would be difficult
> to tell apart.


That is a non sequitur, your facts do not correlate.

Measekite, have you compared the output between your IP4000 and any
newer canon? ANY NEWER CANON?

Although I have Moosetripe posts blocked from appearing on my browser, I
see that he is still singing the same off-tune tired old song. Glad to see
that he still has the same knee-jerk response to any information I post,
even when I don't mention what ink I've used. For all he knows, he might
have converted me to spending 10 times as much for his beloved Canon OEM
ink. The one picoliter printers do come extremetly close to the output that
the older generation of six color printers did with their light dye-load
photo magenta and photo cyan inks. I don't think anyone would be able to
tell the difference with the naked eye. Problem with Mousebite is that he
quotes reviews without actually having first hand knowledge of these two
printers. They both have exceptional photo output. If there is an ip4500
available and I didn't have these two printers (PLUS a spare i960 and
ip5000) I would probably buy the ip4500 and a chip resetter so I could
continue to refill with the excellent aftermarket inks I have used for more
than five years.





 
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      29th Jan 2009
On Jan 28, 8:39*pm, "Burt" <nos...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> ink. The one picoliter printers do come extremetly close to the output that
> the older generation of six color printers did with their light dye-load
> photo magenta and photo cyan inks. *I don't think anyone would be able to
> tell the difference with the naked eye. *


I've only done a few prints on my mp830 and someone else's mp960. I
have to admit you can sort of tell the difference if you look
carefully, mainly with skys. But you have to look. It wasn't enough
for me to want to upgrade.

Canon has abandoned their light cyan/maganta inks in favor of a light
black, and the only printer I know that offers this is the mp980.
That has always been one weak point with the canon.
 
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      29th Jan 2009

"IntergalacticExpandingPanda" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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On Jan 28, 8:39 pm, "Burt" <nos...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> ink. The one picoliter printers do come extremetly close to the output
> that
> the older generation of six color printers did with their light dye-load
> photo magenta and photo cyan inks. I don't think anyone would be able to
> tell the difference with the naked eye.


I've only done a few prints on my mp830 and someone else's mp960. I
have to admit you can sort of tell the difference if you look
carefully, mainly with skys. But you have to look. It wasn't enough
for me to want to upgrade.

Canon has abandoned their light cyan/maganta inks in favor of a light
black, and the only printer I know that offers this is the mp980.
That has always been one weak point with the canon.

When printing black and white pix I actually get better neutral blacks with
the ip5000 than with the i960. That was true with OEM inks and the Canon
profiles as well as with Image Specialist inks with the Canon profiles


 
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      29th Jan 2009
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:39:54 -0800, Burt wrote:

> "IntergalacticExpandingPanda" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote in message
> news:6f37ba10-d343-402f-a441-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Jan 28, 10:43 am, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes there is a difference between the two. But when you use crap ink that
>> is not recommended by the mfg then both are sub par and would be difficult
>> to tell apart.

>
> That is a non sequitur, your facts do not correlate.
>
> Measekite, have you compared the output between your IP4000 and any
> newer canon? ANY NEWER CANON?
>
> Although I have Moosetripe posts blocked from appearing on my browser, I
> see that he is still singing the same off-tune tired old song. Glad to see
> that he still has the same knee-jerk response to any information I post,
> even when I don't mention what ink I've used. For all he knows, he might
> have converted me to spending 10 times as much for his beloved Canon OEM
> ink. The one picoliter printers do come extremetly close to the output that
> the older generation of six color printers did with their light dye-load
> photo magenta and photo cyan inks. I don't think anyone would be able to
> tell the difference with the naked eye. Problem with Mousebite is that he
> quotes reviews without actually having first hand knowledge of these two
> printers. They both have exceptional photo output. If there is an ip4500
> available and I didn't have these two printers (PLUS a spare i960 and
> ip5000) I would probably buy the ip4500 and a chip resetter so I could
> continue to refill with the excellent aftermarket inks I have used for more
> than five years.


There is not excellent aftermarket inks. And the IP4500 from the IP4000
was alsways a better printer than the I960. The real ink was better, it
had dual paper feed, it printed duplex and the photo quality was better.
 
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