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Trevor Appleton
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      10th Sep 2005
I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.

I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?

I have tried installing connections to 2 different ISP's and get an engaged
tone each time.

If I dial the same number I get a computer/modem answer.

I have the PC's modem connected to a telephone socket in a BT Digital Access
ISDN socket, whilst the ADSL comes through a wireless router connected to a
different phone line.


 
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Jeff Gaines
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      10th Sep 2005
On 10/09/2005 Trevor Appleton wrote:

> I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>
> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?



It has worked for me, when I made the switch from ISDN to ADSL I found
I had to dial in to do something to the settings. I connected my dusted
off old Courier via a filter to the ADSL line and it was fine. Just
treat it as if it is a 'phone on an ADSL line. The same principle must
apply to ISDN - plug it into a POTS socket.

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Mike Tullett
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      10th Sep 2005
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:44:34 +0100, Trevor Appleton wrote in
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> I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>
> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?


No - it is totally incorrect. Mine is simply plugged in to a normal phone
socket when I need to use dial up.

> I have tried installing connections to 2 different ISP's and get an engaged
> tone each time.


I have no idea why that may be, but I have no problems dialling other ISPs
even when ADSL is still conected. The second (dial up conection) takes
precedence over ADSL while it is still in operation.

> If I dial the same number I get a computer/modem answer.
>
> I have the PC's modem connected to a telephone socket in a BT Digital Access
> ISDN socket, whilst the ADSL comes through a wireless router connected to a
> different phone line.


I have no idea about ISDN connections, never having used that system, but
if you dial up using the different phone line ADSL is on, there should be
no problems. The worst that might happen is the 56k conection speed may
drop a bit from a non ADSL line - mine used to be 48k before ADSL but now
is about 45k after.

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philo
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      10th Sep 2005
Trevor Appleton wrote:
> I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>
> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?


<snip>

incorrect.
i also use dial-up as a backup

sounds like you have just entered the wrong phone #.
you need to check with your ISP

 
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Trev
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      10th Sep 2005

"Trevor Appleton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:48da8$4322f152$50e5af86$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>
> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?
>
> I have tried installing connections to 2 different ISP's and get an
> engaged tone each time.
>
> If I dial the same number I get a computer/modem answer.
>
> I have the PC's modem connected to a telephone socket in a BT Digital
> Access ISDN socket, whilst the ADSL comes through a wireless router
> connected to a different phone line.
>

As long as its plugged in to the telephone part of the filter It should work


 
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MrGrumpy
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      10th Sep 2005
If your connecting to the ISDN line of your BT socket you require an ISDN
modem and its drivers installed

If however your connecting to a seperate std line there should be no
problem.
I have had both Cable/ISDN/StdTel connections all functioning correctly on
the same pc

"Trevor Appleton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:48da8$4322f152$50e5af86$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>
> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?
>
> I have tried installing connections to 2 different ISP's and get an

engaged
> tone each time.
>
> If I dial the same number I get a computer/modem answer.
>
> I have the PC's modem connected to a telephone socket in a BT Digital

Access
> ISDN socket, whilst the ADSL comes through a wireless router connected to

a
> different phone line.
>
>



 
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Trevor Appleton
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      10th Sep 2005

"philo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsJWdne6XiOo_a7_eRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Trevor Appleton wrote:
>> I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>>
>> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
>> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?

>
> <snip>
>
> incorrect.
> i also use dial-up as a backup
>
> sounds like you have just entered the wrong phone #.
> you need to check with your ISP
>


No I've tried three differnent ISP's and all get the engaged tone from the
PC but not when using a phone.


 
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Martin Underwood
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      10th Sep 2005
"Trevor Appleton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eddf3$432303f5$50e5af86$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "philo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsJWdne6XiOo_a7_eRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Trevor Appleton wrote:
>>> I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>>>
>>> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
>>> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?

>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> incorrect.
>> i also use dial-up as a backup
>>
>> sounds like you have just entered the wrong phone #.
>> you need to check with your ISP
>>

>
> No I've tried three differnent ISP's and all get the engaged tone from the
> PC but not when using a phone.


And you're connecting the modem and the phone (though maybe not at the same
time) to the same line?

Given that (IIRC) you said that it's an ISDN line, I'm not sure a) how the
phone works on this line, and b) why ADSL is implicated since you're not
trying to dial in on the ADSL-enabled line.

Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?


What happens if you connect the phone and the modem at the same time (if
you've got a splitter) and listen to the phone while the modem dials? Is the
modem definitely making the DTMF tones that dial the number? And you're
getting the BT engaged tone, as opposed to something else which the modem is
incorrectly interpreting as "engaged" as seen in the status window for the
dial-up connection app?



 
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Conor
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      10th Sep 2005
In article <48da8$4322f152$50e5af86$(E-Mail Removed)>, Trevor
Appleton says...
> I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>
> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?
>

No.

> I have tried installing connections to 2 different ISP's and get an engaged
> tone each time.
>

Have you got the "Country" set up as United Kingdom in the modem
properties?


> I have the PC's modem connected to a telephone socket in a BT Digital Access
> ISDN socket,


Is this the same socket you used to phone the number with a normal
phone?



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Trevor Appleton
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      10th Sep 2005

"Conor" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <48da8$4322f152$50e5af86$(E-Mail Removed)>, Trevor
> Appleton says...
>> I have ADSL and wish to install 56K dial up modem back up.
>>
>> I have been told by the PC Manufacturer Medion that 56K dial up is
>> incompatible with ADSL and won't work - is this correct?
>>

> No.
>
>> I have tried installing connections to 2 different ISP's and get an
>> engaged
>> tone each time.
>>

> Have you got the "Country" set up as United Kingdom in the modem
> properties?
>
>
>> I have the PC's modem connected to a telephone socket in a BT Digital
>> Access
>> ISDN socket,

>
> Is this the same socket you used to phone the number with a normal
> phone?
>
>
>
> --
> Conor
>



No but just swopped them over and still the same, phone works.


 
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