I installed GeForce 210 into Asus M4N68T-M-V2.

The label on a card very clearly indicates 512 Mb. However,
XP reports only 3 Gb memory out of 4 and both CPU-Z and
SIW ("System Information for Windows") report 1024 Mb
video memory.

I have no use for anything above 512 Mb of video memory but
once in a while having more than 3 GB memory is useful for
a few things that I do. So I am trying to understand what's going
on and how it can be solved. I can't find anything in BIOS that
would relate to the video memory is concerned.

Any ideas? Thanks,

Dima

In article <HP4Wq.15425$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) (DK) wrote:
>I installed GeForce 210 into Asus M4N68T-M-V2.
>
>The label on a card very clearly indicates 512 Mb. However,
>XP reports only 3 Gb memory out of 4 and both CPU-Z and
>SIW ("System Information for Windows") report 1024 Mb
>video memory.

By the way, DXDiag also reports 1024 Mb.

"DK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:HP4Wq.15425$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I installed GeForce 210 into Asus M4N68T-M-V2.
>
> The label on a card very clearly indicates 512 Mb. However,
> XP reports only 3 Gb memory out of 4 and both CPU-Z and
> SIW ("System Information for Windows") report 1024 Mb
> video memory.
>
> I have no use for anything above 512 Mb of video memory but
> once in a while having more than 3 GB memory is useful for
> a few things that I do. So I am trying to understand what's going
> on and how it can be solved. I can't find anything in BIOS that
> would relate to the video memory is concerned.
>
> Any ideas? Thanks,
>
> Dima
>
>
You don't mention if you're running 32- or 64-bit WinXP, but if you have 32-bit, you're not going to show the whole 4GB
anyhow. Generally, only 2.5 to 3.25GB will be shown, unless you have 64-bit Windows.

Did you disable the on-board Nvidia 7025 in BIOS after installing the 210? That could be where the rest of 1024MB is
coming from. (I have that same MB.)
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SC Tom

SC Tom wrote:
>
> "DK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:HP4Wq.15425$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I installed GeForce 210 into Asus M4N68T-M-V2.
>>
>> The label on a card very clearly indicates 512 Mb. However,
>> XP reports only 3 Gb memory out of 4 and both CPU-Z and
>> SIW ("System Information for Windows") report 1024 Mb
>> video memory.
>>
>> I have no use for anything above 512 Mb of video memory but
>> once in a while having more than 3 GB memory is useful for
>> a few things that I do. So I am trying to understand what's going
>> on and how it can be solved. I can't find anything in BIOS that
>> would relate to the video memory is concerned.
>>
>> Any ideas? Thanks,
>>
>> Dima
>>
>>
> You don't mention if you're running 32- or 64-bit WinXP, but if you have
> 32-bit, you're not going to show the whole 4GB anyhow. Generally, only
> 2.5 to 3.25GB will be shown, unless you have 64-bit Windows.
>
> Did you disable the on-board Nvidia 7025 in BIOS after installing the
> 210? That could be where the rest of 1024MB is coming from. (I have that
> same MB.)

Onchip VGA Frame Buffer Size. Can be adjusted down to 32MB but
apparently doesn't have zero as an option in the Asus manual.
Perhaps the real BIOS installed in the motherboard, has better
options, not documented in the manual ? Somehow, I doubt this is
causing the "1GB" report from DirectX though.

*******

What's interesting, is a Gigabyte board with 7025 Northbridge offers these options.

"Onchip VGA Frame Buffer Size" [Auto, Disable, 32M, 64M, 128M, 256M]
"Onboard GPU" [Enable if no Ext PEG, Always Enable]

and that is a *perfect* set of options, because it gives you everything
you could possible expect from 7025 IGP (including the ability to
turn it off). The Asus motherboard manual doesn't offer that nice
set of options. So Gigabyte did a better job in their BIOS design.

*******

The behavior seen doesn't bother me that much. I have a 512MB card, I have
4GB memory, a 32 bit OS, and I get "3GB available" RAM reported. And that
is the BIOS decision as to what cut off point to remap memory above 4GB
(where my 32 bit OS can't see it). But DirectX on my system reports
512MB as expected.

You can also use Device Manager (Start : Run : devmgmt.msc) , use
View : Resources By Type and use that to examine what the various
piece of hardware are using.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1...gmtrestype.gif

Another way to check video resources, is with GPU-Z.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/

Paul

In article <jgbags$25q$(E-Mail Removed)>, "SC Tom" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>You don't mention if you're running 32- or 64-bit WinXP, but if you have
> 32-bit, you're not going to show the whole 4GB
>anyhow. Generally, only 2.5 to 3.25GB will be shown, unless you have 64-bit
> Windows.

It's 32 bit and I don't expect it to show the whole 4 GB. I did expect
the system and various pieces of software to detect 512 MB of
video memory instead of 1024.

>Did you disable the on-board Nvidia 7025 in BIOS after installing the 210?

I don't see any option to do that. The only option is the priority of
video to use:

PCIE --> PCI --> IGP
or
IGP --> PCI -- PCIE

> Onchip VGA Frame Buffer Size

Once PCIE --> PCI --> IGP sequence is chosen, this option is
not available.

>Another way to check video resources, is with GPU-Z.

CPU-Z reports 1024 Mb video.

- Dima

In article <jgblb3$vnt$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) (DK) wrote:

>> Onchip VGA Frame Buffer Size
>
>Once PCIE --> PCI --> IGP sequence is chosen, this option is
>not available.

I take it back. There is no such option in the BIOS that I can find
anywhere - regardless of the setting for video.

DK wrote:
> In article <jgblb3$vnt$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) (DK) wrote:
>
>>> Onchip VGA Frame Buffer Size
>> Once PCIE --> PCI --> IGP sequence is chosen, this option is
>> not available.
>
> I take it back. There is no such option in the BIOS that I can find
> anywhere - regardless of the setting for video.
>
>

Which implies that the IGP is disabled, as soon as the PCI Express
video card is detected ?

As for the 1GB claim, use Device Manager and verify the memory
ranges listed in there. Post a URL to a screen capture of
the Device Manager, if you can arrange it. I do screen captures
of selected windows, with the GIMP graphics editor, but there
are other ways to do it.

http://www.gimp.org/downloads/

If you can see a real, 1GB segment mapped for the video card,
then perhaps it does have that much memory on board. (In my example
here, the video card is 512MB.)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1...gmtrestype.gif

Paul

Paul <nospam needed.com> wrote:

> As for the 1GB claim, use Device Manager and verify the memory
> ranges listed in there. Post a URL to a screen capture of the
> Device Manager, if you can arrange it. I do screen captures of
> selected windows, with the GIMP graphics editor, but there are
> other ways to do it.

Hold "alt" while pressing "print screen".

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>
> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/
>
> If you can see a real, 1GB segment mapped for the video card,
> then perhaps it does have that much memory on board. (In my example
> here, the video card is 512MB.)
>
> http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1...gmtrestype.gif
>
> Paul
>

John Doe wrote:
> Paul <nospam needed.com> wrote:
>
>> As for the 1GB claim, use Device Manager and verify the memory
>> ranges listed in there. Post a URL to a screen capture of the
>> Device Manager, if you can arrange it. I do screen captures of
>> selected windows, with the GIMP graphics editor, but there are
>> other ways to do it.
>
> Hold "alt" while pressing "print screen".
>

Once it's pulled into GIMP, I save as GIF and upload to imageshack.
Since I need an image editor anyway, easier to do it from the GIMP
"acquire" menu. (In the example in this thread, the image is
annotated.) The "acquire" image automatically opens at the
right resolution choices. Whereas if I use a copy/paste buffer, GIMP
doesn't behave very smart about it. I have to paste, then crop.

My upload is pitifully slow, and switching to (8 bit) GIF for
technical pictures of dialog boxes is good enough.

Paul

Paul <nospam needed.com> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:
>> Paul <nospam needed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As for the 1GB claim, use Device Manager and verify the memory
>>> ranges listed in there. Post a URL to a screen capture of the
>>> Device Manager, if you can arrange it. I do screen captures of
>>> selected windows, with the GIMP graphics editor, but there are
>>> other ways to do it.
>>
>> Hold "alt" while pressing "print screen".
>>
>
> Once it's pulled into GIMP, I save as GIF and upload to
> imageshack. Since I need an image editor anyway, easier to do it
> from the GIMP "acquire" menu. (In the example in this thread,
> the image is annotated.) The "acquire" image automatically opens
> at the right resolution choices. Whereas if I use a copy/paste
> buffer, GIMP doesn't behave very smart about it. I have to
> paste, then crop.
>
> My upload is pitifully slow, and switching to (8 bit) GIF for
> technical pictures of dialog boxes is good enough.

I would do "alt" while pressing "print screen". Then say "Drawing"
to open Windows XP picture editor. Then say "set" to paste the
clipboard image. Then verbally click and drag to crop the upper
and left sides. Then press escape to release the picture. Then
position the pointer to the correct crop location for the lower
and right sides, note the pixel location, and set the picture
attributes accordingly. Then save as JPG or whatever.

If I were doing lots of pictures, I might look for something
better, like maybe clicking and dragging a rectangle to crop the
picture. Also, I'm not sure how well the Windows XP picture editor
does for saving pictures in a compact form, relative to other
programs. I think it usually depends on the source. My most recent
picture posted here to UseNet was a tiny 3 kB.

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> Paul
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