"JC" wrote:

> I have 4GB of physical RAM, windows vista shows only 3326MB. Does it really
> help with performance if I have 4GB or should I just install 3GB memory? I
> just bought the additional 2GB memory (had 2GB before) and wondering if I
> should exchange for a 1GB one. Thanks.

Maybe interesting would be for notebooks!
If my notebook only has 2 slots, and I have 2GB stick installed, and wished
to increase RAM should I install 1 stick of 1GB, or 1 stick of 2GB?
If I would install 1GB, I'll have more then enough RAM, but the question
would be, would it still be Dual channel compatible or something?

If I'd install a 2GB stick, would my notebook use considerably more energy
then using only a 1 Gb stick?

I have experimented with my 2x1GB/2x512MB DDR PC5300 SODIMM Memory sticks,
and the benchmarks told me that my system was faster using 1x1GB then 2x512MB.
Also my system was faster using 1x2GB instead of 2X1024MB.
Now I want to know if it'll be faster using 1X2GB, or 2X2GB.
Ofcourse the LARGE Memory benchmark tests show that 4GB will be better then 2.
But in many cases the LARGE benchmark tests are not-real life, unless you
do video/photo editing, or play lots of games on your laptop.

That's not the case with me, I just want the smaller applications to run
smoothly.
By adding a 1x2GB RAM stick, I've been able to increase my VISTA experience
from 3,0 to 3,1 (since my videocard uses 64MB shared memory), and yes I know,
it's an 'older' laptop.

So all of the tested memory was Kingston value memory; DDR, on a Sony Vaio
notebook.

I don't have any explenations as to why; but these where just but my
observations.
I would like to know what this 'Dual channel DDR'-theory is. (I'm just
running a 32-bit processor, and am not thinking about upgrading it to a 64
version).

That doesn't matter much. Take it to 4GB if you like. Notebook ram is not
the same as desktop ram where you have a pair of dual channel dimm slots.
On a notebook don't worry about things like dual channel. After all, if you
were running with one memory slot in use you could hardly have been in some
sort of dual channel mode anyway. The power requirement will not be very
much. Notebook ram is designed with that in mind.

"ProDigit" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:474390A3-FD1B-4BE1-A5E1-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> "JC" wrote:
>
>> I have 4GB of physical RAM, windows vista shows only 3326MB. Does it
>> really
>> help with performance if I have 4GB or should I just install 3GB memory?
>> I
>> just bought the additional 2GB memory (had 2GB before) and wondering if I
>> should exchange for a 1GB one. Thanks.
>
> Maybe interesting would be for notebooks!
> If my notebook only has 2 slots, and I have 2GB stick installed, and
> wished
> to increase RAM should I install 1 stick of 1GB, or 1 stick of 2GB?
> If I would install 1GB, I'll have more then enough RAM, but the question
> would be, would it still be Dual channel compatible or something?
>
> If I'd install a 2GB stick, would my notebook use considerably more energy
> then using only a 1 Gb stick?
>
> I have experimented with my 2x1GB/2x512MB DDR PC5300 SODIMM Memory sticks,
> and the benchmarks told me that my system was faster using 1x1GB then
> 2x512MB.
> Also my system was faster using 1x2GB instead of 2X1024MB.
> Now I want to know if it'll be faster using 1X2GB, or 2X2GB.
> Ofcourse the LARGE Memory benchmark tests show that 4GB will be better
> then 2.
> But in many cases the LARGE benchmark tests are not-real life, unless you
> do video/photo editing, or play lots of games on your laptop.
>
> That's not the case with me, I just want the smaller applications to run
> smoothly.
> By adding a 1x2GB RAM stick, I've been able to increase my VISTA
> experience
> from 3,0 to 3,1 (since my videocard uses 64MB shared memory), and yes I
> know,
> it's an 'older' laptop.
>
> So all of the tested memory was Kingston value memory; DDR, on a Sony Vaio
> notebook.
>
> I don't have any explenations as to why; but these where just but my
> observations.
> I would like to know what this 'Dual channel DDR'-theory is. (I'm just
> running a 32-bit processor, and am not thinking about upgrading it to a 64
> version).

the 32bit versions of XP and Vista are limited to 32Bit address space, this
has to include space for all hardware mapped into the address space as well,
so you will never see your full 4Gb of memory (I see 3326MB on my machine).


"Colin Barnhorst" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:22821698-E82F-4E15-9268-(E-Mail Removed)...
> That doesn't matter much. Take it to 4GB if you like. Notebook ram is
> not the same as desktop ram where you have a pair of dual channel dimm
> slots. On a notebook don't worry about things like dual channel. After
> all, if you were running with one memory slot in use you could hardly have
> been in some sort of dual channel mode anyway. The power requirement will
> not be very much. Notebook ram is designed with that in mind.
>
> "ProDigit" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:474390A3-FD1B-4BE1-A5E1-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>> "JC" wrote:
>>
>>> I have 4GB of physical RAM, windows vista shows only 3326MB. Does it
>>> really
>>> help with performance if I have 4GB or should I just install 3GB memory?
>>> I
>>> just bought the additional 2GB memory (had 2GB before) and wondering if
>>> I
>>> should exchange for a 1GB one. Thanks.
>>
>> Maybe interesting would be for notebooks!
>> If my notebook only has 2 slots, and I have 2GB stick installed, and
>> wished
>> to increase RAM should I install 1 stick of 1GB, or 1 stick of 2GB?
>> If I would install 1GB, I'll have more then enough RAM, but the question
>> would be, would it still be Dual channel compatible or something?
>>
>> If I'd install a 2GB stick, would my notebook use considerably more
>> energy
>> then using only a 1 Gb stick?
>>
>> I have experimented with my 2x1GB/2x512MB DDR PC5300 SODIMM Memory
>> sticks,
>> and the benchmarks told me that my system was faster using 1x1GB then
>> 2x512MB.
>> Also my system was faster using 1x2GB instead of 2X1024MB.
>> Now I want to know if it'll be faster using 1X2GB, or 2X2GB.
>> Ofcourse the LARGE Memory benchmark tests show that 4GB will be better
>> then 2.
>> But in many cases the LARGE benchmark tests are not-real life, unless
>> you
>> do video/photo editing, or play lots of games on your laptop.
>>
>> That's not the case with me, I just want the smaller applications to run
>> smoothly.
>> By adding a 1x2GB RAM stick, I've been able to increase my VISTA
>> experience
>> from 3,0 to 3,1 (since my videocard uses 64MB shared memory), and yes I
>> know,
>> it's an 'older' laptop.
>>
>> So all of the tested memory was Kingston value memory; DDR, on a Sony
>> Vaio
>> notebook.
>>
>> I don't have any explenations as to why; but these where just but my
>> observations.
>> I would like to know what this 'Dual channel DDR'-theory is. (I'm just
>> running a 32-bit processor, and am not thinking about upgrading it to a
>> 64
>> version).
>

i was reading this thread looking for an answer to some thing else and RICK
you might be able to help me.
is there any way i can install 32 bit software onto 64 bit vista, does the
32 bit control panel let you do this in any way, and im not sure if i saw a
32 bit programe bit in vista somewhere.
i am still a bit new to all this cpu stuff so if my question is a bit stupid
i`m sorry.

thanks scrummage.

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If I recall correctly, Itunes' software is not 64-bit compatible. Until they
> release a version that is, you cannot use it on an x64 system.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:AB446FFA-D56C-4D33-B835-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Perhaps you can help me. This is a different issue. I downloaded Itunes
> > and
> > it said it was not installed correctly on my Vista 64 operating system. I
> > reinstalled it a total of three times and even did a "repair" install from
> > Microsofts "install/delete" control. Now it will not install at all. Any
> > ideas?
> >
> > "Gene K" wrote:
> >
> >> About any question pertaining to Windows RAM is answered On Crucial's
> >> site.
> >> Start here: http://www.crucial.com/support/index.aspx?tabid=sc1 .
> >>
> >> Gene K
> >>
> >>
>
>

Hi,

Most 32-bit software will install to a 64-bit system and run in 32-bit mode
without issue. The problems occur when the software includes device drivers,
such as the iTunes software, as these must be signed, compatible 64-bit
drivers or the software, even if it can be installed, will not operate
properly.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"scrummage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:9DE12C6C-B6DF-46F3-9EC5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>i was reading this thread looking for an answer to some thing else and RICK
> you might be able to help me.
> is there any way i can install 32 bit software onto 64 bit vista, does the
> 32 bit control panel let you do this in any way, and im not sure if i saw
> a
> 32 bit programe bit in vista somewhere.
> i am still a bit new to all this cpu stuff so if my question is a bit
> stupid
> i`m sorry.
>
> thanks scrummage.
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I recall correctly, Itunes' software is not 64-bit compatible. Until
>> they
>> release a version that is, you cannot use it on an x64 system.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:AB446FFA-D56C-4D33-B835-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Perhaps you can help me. This is a different issue. I downloaded
>> > Itunes
>> > and
>> > it said it was not installed correctly on my Vista 64 operating system.
>> > I
>> > reinstalled it a total of three times and even did a "repair" install
>> > from
>> > Microsofts "install/delete" control. Now it will not install at all.
>> > Any
>> > ideas?
>> >
>> > "Gene K" wrote:
>> >
>> >> About any question pertaining to Windows RAM is answered On Crucial's
>> >> site.
>> >> Start here: http://www.crucial.com/support/index.aspx?tabid=sc1 .
>> >>
>> >> Gene K
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

"Rick Rogers" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> Most 32-bit software will install to a 64-bit system and run in 32-bit
> mode without issue. The problems occur when the software includes device
> drivers, such as the iTunes software, as these must be signed, compatible
> 64-bit drivers or the software, even if it can be installed, will not
> operate properly.

There is now a specific 64-bit version of iTunes. You can download it from
the Apple site if you are running Vista 64.

>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "scrummage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:9DE12C6C-B6DF-46F3-9EC5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>i was reading this thread looking for an answer to some thing else and
>>RICK
>> you might be able to help me.
>> is there any way i can install 32 bit software onto 64 bit vista, does
>> the
>> 32 bit control panel let you do this in any way, and im not sure if i saw
>> a
>> 32 bit programe bit in vista somewhere.
>> i am still a bit new to all this cpu stuff so if my question is a bit
>> stupid
>> i`m sorry.
>>
>> thanks scrummage.
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If I recall correctly, Itunes' software is not 64-bit compatible. Until
>>> they
>>> release a version that is, you cannot use it on an x64 system.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:AB446FFA-D56C-4D33-B835-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > Perhaps you can help me. This is a different issue. I downloaded
>>> > Itunes
>>> > and
>>> > it said it was not installed correctly on my Vista 64 operating
>>> > system. I
>>> > reinstalled it a total of three times and even did a "repair" install
>>> > from
>>> > Microsofts "install/delete" control. Now it will not install at all.
>>> > Any
>>> > ideas?
>>> >
>>> > "Gene K" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> About any question pertaining to Windows RAM is answered On Crucial's
>>> >> site.
>>> >> Start here: http://www.crucial.com/support/index.aspx?tabid=sc1 .
>>> >>
>>> >> Gene K
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>

It is a 32-bit x64 compatible program with mostly x86 modules and two x64
modules. By no means is it a fully 64-bit program.

"Brian W" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ixLlj.2982$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Rick Rogers" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Most 32-bit software will install to a 64-bit system and run in 32-bit
>> mode without issue. The problems occur when the software includes device
>> drivers, such as the iTunes software, as these must be signed, compatible
>> 64-bit drivers or the software, even if it can be installed, will not
>> operate properly.
>
> There is now a specific 64-bit version of iTunes. You can download it from
> the Apple site if you are running Vista 64.
>
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "scrummage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:9DE12C6C-B6DF-46F3-9EC5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>i was reading this thread looking for an answer to some thing else and
>>>RICK
>>> you might be able to help me.
>>> is there any way i can install 32 bit software onto 64 bit vista, does
>>> the
>>> 32 bit control panel let you do this in any way, and im not sure if i
>>> saw a
>>> 32 bit programe bit in vista somewhere.
>>> i am still a bit new to all this cpu stuff so if my question is a bit
>>> stupid
>>> i`m sorry.
>>>
>>> thanks scrummage.
>>>
>>> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> If I recall correctly, Itunes' software is not 64-bit compatible. Until
>>>> they
>>>> release a version that is, you cannot use it on an x64 system.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> "Joe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:AB446FFA-D56C-4D33-B835-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> > Perhaps you can help me. This is a different issue. I downloaded
>>>> > Itunes
>>>> > and
>>>> > it said it was not installed correctly on my Vista 64 operating
>>>> > system. I
>>>> > reinstalled it a total of three times and even did a "repair" install
>>>> > from
>>>> > Microsofts "install/delete" control. Now it will not install at all.
>>>> > Any
>>>> > ideas?
>>>> >
>>>> > "Gene K" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> About any question pertaining to Windows RAM is answered On
>>>> >> Crucial's
>>>> >> site.
>>>> >> Start here: http://www.crucial.com/support/index.aspx?tabid=sc1 .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Gene K
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>