I rebooted my little laptop for the first time since upgrading to SP1 on
03/21/08.

Uptime as almost 49 days, and the machine was running as well as when I
first rebooted after installing SP1.


If you want to take a look at some pretty impressive (IMHO) numbers for a
home notebook:
http://mindvacant.com/joomla/index.p...sp1&Itemid=796

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On Sun, 11 May 2008 00:09:55 -0700, Fred B. wrote:

> I rebooted my little laptop for the first time since upgrading to SP1 on
> 03/21/08.
>
> Uptime as almost 49 days, and the machine was running as well as when I
> first rebooted after installing SP1.
>
>
> If you want to take a look at some pretty impressive (IMHO) numbers for
> a home notebook:
> http://mindvacant.com/joomla/index.php?
option=com_content&view=article&id=863:vista-sp1-laptop-uptime-at-48-
days&catid=95:vista-sp1&Itemid=796

That is quite amazing. I have several Linux systems going on six months
now - only time I reboot is when the power goes out and the UPS dies.

> Because vista is crap... and if you use it, it needs reboots...

Utter drivel. Mine runs for weeks, even months at a time, rebooting only
when the occasional update needs it (quite rare these days). The last time
I rebooted was to install SP1. Before that it had been running for ages -
many weeks. It is never switched off or put in "Sleep" mode.

> Playing solitaire does not count as uptime.. you are clearly not a power
> user...

You don't know Fred B. at all. You've no idea what kind of user he is.

As for me, I thrash my Vista PC mercilessly all day and all evening:

* Technical Authorship using Office 2007
* Technical illustration using Visio
* Graphics creation and editing, including photo processing, with PSP X2
* Document scanning and OCR using Omnipage Pro
* Web site development using NetObjects Fusion, Namo WebEditor and Serif
WebPlus X2
* Sound file editing and processing using Adobe Audition
* Software development using CodeGear Delphi and MS Visual Studio 2008
* Embedded software development using Microchip tools
* Video editing using VideoReDo TV Suite

.........plus countless minor applications including home automation and
various homebrew technical applications.

Of course, I wouldn't dream of calling myself a "power user". But I can say
that my Vista PC works hard for a living and has proved to be utterly
stable. Not once has it blue-screened, frozen or needed rebooting (apart
from those occasional updates).

Naturally it has suffered the usual Vista shortcomings, most notably the
glacial file copying, which is only somewhat improved in SP1 (it wasn't
broken in XP - why, oh why, did they "fix" it?).

But your assertion that Vista is inherently defective and requires frequent
reboots is not universally true. Perhaps you need to look to your hardware.

SteveT

On Sun, 11 May 2008 16:02:21 +0100, "Steve Thackery"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> Because vista is crap... and if you use it, it needs reboots...
>
>Utter drivel. Mine runs for weeks, even months at a time, rebooting only
>when the occasional update needs it (quite rare these days). The last time
>I rebooted was to install SP1. Before that it had been running for ages -
>many weeks. It is never switched off or put in "Sleep" mode.

Anyone that tries to equate weeks to "ages" must be related to Frank.

>As for me, I thrash my Vista PC mercilessly all day and all evening:
>
>* Technical Authorship using Office 2007

Oh please... writing a text document isn't close to being "merciless".

>* Technical illustration using Visio
>* Graphics creation and editing, including photo processing, with PSP X2
>* Document scanning and OCR using Omnipage Pro
>* Web site development using NetObjects Fusion, Namo WebEditor and Serif
>WebPlus X2
>* Sound file editing and processing using Adobe Audition
>* Software development using CodeGear Delphi and MS Visual Studio 2008
>* Embedded software development using Microchip tools

Sorry, none of the above either are anything close being merciless to
your PC.

>* Video editing using VideoReDo TV Suite

LOL! I looked at their web page. A toy on par with the butt ugly Movie
Maker crap built into Vista.

>Of course, I wouldn't dream of calling myself a "power user".

Good, because you're not.

>But I can say
>that my Vista PC works hard for a living and has proved to be utterly
>stable.

Because you haven't done anything with it. Writing a text document,
snipping a scene or two out of a already made DVD movie isn't rocket
science nor should it be "hard" on your PC or OS.

BTW, you do know it makes no sense to leave your computer running
constantly don't you? Doing that you are wearing out your disk drives
and power supply faster as well as shortening the life of capacitors
on the motherboard, stressing the CPU, etc.. A foolish practice many
amateurs make.

Like I said, I'm not a power user, but my PC gets used for a wider range of
tasks than most average punters, and it doesn't blue-screen or require
regular reboots at all. There is nothing inherent in Vista that requires it
to be rebooted frequently.

Adam, do you claim to be a power user, then??? Tell us the sort of things
you do with your computer, so we can all learn what a REAL power user is.

> BTW, you do know it makes no sense to leave your computer running
> constantly don't you? Doing that you are wearing out your disk drives
> and power supply faster as well as shortening the life of capacitors
> on the motherboard, stressing the CPU, etc.. A foolish practice many
> amateurs make.

Amateurs? Amateur whats? I'm a qualified Reliability Engineer, and I can
tell that you most certainly aren't!

You've got a lot to learn, boy.

SteveT

I just now did install SP1, and hope to have the same luck.

"Steve Thackery" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Like I said, I'm not a power user, but my PC gets used for a wider range
> of tasks than most average punters, and it doesn't blue-screen or require
> regular reboots at all. There is nothing inherent in Vista that requires
> it to be rebooted frequently.
>
> Adam, do you claim to be a power user, then??? Tell us the sort of things
> you do with your computer, so we can all learn what a REAL power user is.
>
>> BTW, you do know it makes no sense to leave your computer running
>> constantly don't you? Doing that you are wearing out your disk drives
>> and power supply faster as well as shortening the life of capacitors
>> on the motherboard, stressing the CPU, etc.. A foolish practice many
>> amateurs make.
>
> Amateurs? Amateur whats? I'm a qualified Reliability Engineer, and I can
> tell that you most certainly aren't!
>
> You've got a lot to learn, boy.
>
> SteveT

On Sun, 11 May 2008 21:27:01 +0100, "Steve Thackery"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>I'm a qualified Reliability Engineer, and I can
>tell that you most certainly aren't!

A Reliability Engineer? You mean you sit at some desk and do things
like flip a light bulb off and on thousands of times until it burns
out then you write the number on moronic form. Maybe you make sure our
cereal boxes have the right number of corn flakes or you count the
raisins in those two scoops of Kellogg's Raisin Bran or make sure each
of those little boxes really has 100 paper clips, not 99 or 101.

I salute you sir! The world is grateful.

QED.

SteveT

Well today, after just 2 days of SP1, Vista will NOT boot up
so I went to elected to restore to the point before it during
the repair option. I guess I did not have such luck.

"Zilla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I just now did install SP1, and hope to have the same luck.
>
> "Steve Thackery" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Like I said, I'm not a power user, but my PC gets used for a wider range
>> of tasks than most average punters, and it doesn't blue-screen or require
>> regular reboots at all. There is nothing inherent in Vista that requires
>> it to be rebooted frequently.
>>
>> Adam, do you claim to be a power user, then??? Tell us the sort of
>> things you do with your computer, so we can all learn what a REAL power
>> user is.
>>
>>> BTW, you do know it makes no sense to leave your computer running
>>> constantly don't you? Doing that you are wearing out your disk drives
>>> and power supply faster as well as shortening the life of capacitors
>>> on the motherboard, stressing the CPU, etc.. A foolish practice many
>>> amateurs make.
>>
>> Amateurs? Amateur whats? I'm a qualified Reliability Engineer, and I
>> can tell that you most certainly aren't!
>>
>> You've got a lot to learn, boy.
>>
>> SteveT
>
>