Will now concentrate on 2MB L2 caches instead.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19089

Yousuf Khan

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Yousuf Khan wrote:

> Will now concentrate on 2MB L2 caches instead.
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19089

I don't think one is allowed to say "officially" and "the Inquirer"
in the same sentence.

Grumble wrote:
> Yousuf Khan wrote:
>
>> Will now concentrate on 2MB L2 caches instead.
>>
>> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19089
>
> I don't think one is allowed to say "officially" and "the Inquirer"
> in the same sentence.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/041014/tech_...roadmap_1.html

Yousuf Khan

It's sad how corps can get so caught up in their own BS that
they have no concept of what's important (incapable of any kind
of out-of-the-box thinking). Hopefully they'll be able to realize
their mistakes and produce consumer-driven products and maybe
even anticipate what is wanted before they get so far away from
the mark in the future.

Personally, if Northwoods go away and Prescott is the only Intel
choice, I'm gonna buy AMD. Secondly, if motherboards from Intel
become >$120, I'll go third party there too. Enough of the gouging
already. "Innovation" where it is not necessary is not appreciated.

AJ

"Yousuf Khan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:HeKdnbuTE7jeVPPcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Will now concentrate on 2MB L2 caches instead.
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19089
>
> Yousuf Khan
>
> --
> Humans: contact me at ykhan at rogers dot com
> Spambots: just reply to this email address ;-)
>

AJ wrote:
> Personally, if Northwoods go away and Prescott is the only Intel
> choice, I'm gonna buy AMD. Secondly, if motherboards from Intel
> become >$120, I'll go third party there too. Enough of the gouging
> already. "Innovation" where it is not necessary is not appreciated.

Not even sure why you would need to announce this, AMD and/or third-party
motherboards should've always been on your radar, even before now.

Yousuf Khan

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:03:50 GMT, "AJ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>It's sad how corps can get so caught up in their own BS that
>they have no concept of what's important (incapable of any kind
>of out-of-the-box thinking). Hopefully they'll be able to realize
>their mistakes and produce consumer-driven products and maybe
>even anticipate what is wanted before they get so far away from
>the mark in the future.
>
>Personally, if Northwoods go away and Prescott is the only Intel
>choice, I'm gonna buy AMD. Secondly, if motherboards from Intel
>become >$120, I'll go third party there too. Enough of the gouging
>already. "Innovation" where it is not necessary is not appreciated.

Either way, Intel's mbrds are not considered that great now - they were
always a PITA with many models with a castrated BIOS Setup, the
independents are doing such a great job anyway and Intel branded are often
sub-contracted out now. Buy what suits your needs in the way of features &
layout from one of the majors. The days when Taiwan, and even PRC mfr was
crap are long past.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:42:44 -0400, "Yousuf Khan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Will now concentrate on 2MB L2 caches instead.
>
>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19089

Can you say: "inventory reduction"?:-)

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

AJ wrote:

> It's sad how corps can get so caught up in their own BS that
> they have no concept of what's important (incapable of any kind
> of out-of-the-box thinking). Hopefully they'll be able to realize
> their mistakes and produce consumer-driven products and maybe
> even anticipate what is wanted before they get so far away from
> the mark in the future.
>
> Personally, if Northwoods go away and Prescott is the only Intel
> choice, I'm gonna buy AMD. Secondly, if motherboards from Intel
> become >$120, I'll go third party there too. Enough of the gouging
> already. "Innovation" where it is not necessary is not appreciated.
>
> AJ

The consumer market has been slowing down in any event
and throwing more capital into the Pentium-4 makes little
or no sense at all. Of course, we all know that Intel has
its own version of the "skunk works" (or certainly can
afford to have one) and it would be interesting to see
what mature product might emerge from Intel's R&D after
2 or 3 years. With future business prospects being what
they currently are, the ability to continuously upgrade
has come to a screeching halt, anyway. "Innovate" may mean
changing directions or going down a different path.

Ghostrider wrote:

> AJ wrote:
>
> > It's sad how corps can get so caught up in their own BS that
> > they have no concept of what's important (incapable of any kind
> > of out-of-the-box thinking). Hopefully they'll be able to realize
> > their mistakes and produce consumer-driven products and maybe
> > even anticipate what is wanted before they get so far away from
> > the mark in the future.
> >
> > Personally, if Northwoods go away and Prescott is the only Intel
> > choice, I'm gonna buy AMD. Secondly, if motherboards from Intel
> > become >$120, I'll go third party there too. Enough of the gouging
> > already. "Innovation" where it is not necessary is not appreciated.
> >
> > AJ
>
> The consumer market has been slowing down in any event

That may be what Intel is saying, but it is not what AMD is saying.


>
> and throwing more capital into the Pentium-4 makes little
> or no sense at all.

Intel needs lower power consuming chips that are 64 bit and have
integrated memory controllers to become competitive with AMD.

This article is very interesting.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19105

> Of course, we all know that Intel has
> its own version of the "skunk works" (or certainly can
> afford to have one) and it would be interesting to see
> what mature product might emerge from Intel's R&D after
> 2 or 3 years. With future business prospects being what
> they currently are

CPU sales at AMD are great! They increased 33% from from a
year ago for the quarter ending in September, and increased
21% from the June quarter. The industry is still growing, however
AMD is gaining market market share. Intel's cpu sales grew only
around 3-4% yoy and from last quarter.

> , the ability to continuously upgrade
> has come to a screeching halt, anyway. "Innovate" may mean
> changing directions or going down a different path.

The move to 64 bits and memory controllers integrated into the
cpu for much greater performance are important reasons to
upgrade. Of course those chips with integrated memory
controllers are made by AMD though.

Another interesting article.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19110

JK wrote:

> Ghostrider wrote:
>
> > AJ wrote:
> >
> > > It's sad how corps can get so caught up in their own BS that
> > > they have no concept of what's important (incapable of any kind
> > > of out-of-the-box thinking). Hopefully they'll be able to realize
> > > their mistakes and produce consumer-driven products and maybe
> > > even anticipate what is wanted before they get so far away from
> > > the mark in the future.
> > >
> > > Personally, if Northwoods go away and Prescott is the only Intel
> > > choice, I'm gonna buy AMD. Secondly, if motherboards from Intel
> > > become >$120, I'll go third party there too. Enough of the gouging
> > > already. "Innovation" where it is not necessary is not appreciated.
> > >
> > > AJ
> >
> > The consumer market has been slowing down in any event
>
> That may be what Intel is saying, but it is not what AMD is saying.
>
> >
> > and throwing more capital into the Pentium-4 makes little
> > or no sense at all.
>
> Intel needs lower power consuming chips that are 64 bit and have
> integrated memory controllers to become competitive with AMD.
>
> This article is very interesting.
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19105
>
> > Of course, we all know that Intel has
> > its own version of the "skunk works" (or certainly can
> > afford to have one) and it would be interesting to see
> > what mature product might emerge from Intel's R&D after
> > 2 or 3 years. With future business prospects being what
> > they currently are
>
> CPU sales at AMD are great! They increased 33% from from a
> year ago for the quarter ending in September, and increased
> 21% from the June quarter. The industry is still growing, however
> AMD is gaining market market share. Intel's cpu sales grew only
> around 3-4% yoy and from last quarter.
>
> > , the ability to continuously upgrade
> > has come to a screeching halt, anyway. "Innovate" may mean
> > changing directions or going down a different path.
>
> The move to 64 bits and memory controllers integrated into the
> cpu for much greater performance are important reasons to
> upgrade. Of course those chips with integrated memory
> controllers are made by AMD though.