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Ron Goodenow
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      15th Aug 2005
I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:

Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????

I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
(the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000 inks
in any case).

Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the printer.

Thanks.

 
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Dan G
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      15th Aug 2005
I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable seller and
don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.


"Ron Goodenow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsn2Me.33935$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
> printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
> images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
> purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
> only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>
> Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
> general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????
>
> I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
> (the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
> case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
> prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000 inks
> in any case).
>
> Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the printer.
>
> Thanks.
>



 
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Taliesyn
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      15th Aug 2005
Dan G wrote:
> I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable seller and
> don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.
>


Not a very professional response.

I use very basic compatible cartridges (similar to what's on eBay) in a
printer with 1 pl nozzles, the smallest in the industry. I've had
absolutely no troubles since I bought the printer late last year.
I haven't even bothered to register it.

Check that the eBay seller has a good reputation (feedback) and don't
necessarily buy the cheapest cartridges you see. Try a set to see how
they work with your printer and keep your original Canon ink cartridges
(that came with the printer) on hand in case of problems (to flush the
previous ink out) and for comparison to see how colors/photos match.

The money you save with just one or two sets of compatibles is enough to
buy you a new printer.

-Taliesyn

>
> "Ron Goodenow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsn2Me.33935$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
>>printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
>>images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
>>purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
>>only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>>
>>Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
>>general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????
>>
>>I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
>>(the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
>>case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
>>prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000 inks
>>in any case).
>>
>>Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the printer.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>

>
>
>

 
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Ron Goodenow
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      15th Aug 2005
Thanks for this advice. Makes good sense. My experience with my previous
Canons is that they are happiest when used frequently. Over the years
I've had pretty good luck with eBay sellers and products (eg., batteries
for digital cameras, etc.). My main concern is real red flags from
actual users. And, I've unclogged a nozzle or two in my time....

Taliesyn wrote:
> Dan G wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable
>> seller and
>> don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.
>>

>
> Not a very professional response.
>
> I use very basic compatible cartridges (similar to what's on eBay) in a
> printer with 1 pl nozzles, the smallest in the industry. I've had
> absolutely no troubles since I bought the printer late last year.
> I haven't even bothered to register it.
>
> Check that the eBay seller has a good reputation (feedback) and don't
> necessarily buy the cheapest cartridges you see. Try a set to see how
> they work with your printer and keep your original Canon ink cartridges
> (that came with the printer) on hand in case of problems (to flush the
> previous ink out) and for comparison to see how colors/photos match.
>
> The money you save with just one or two sets of compatibles is enough to
> buy you a new printer.
>
> -Taliesyn
>
>>
>> "Ron Goodenow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> newsn2Me.33935$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
>>> printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
>>> images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
>>> purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
>>> only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>>>
>>> Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
>>> general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????
>>>
>>> I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
>>> (the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
>>> case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
>>> prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000 inks
>>> in any case).
>>>
>>> Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the
>>> printer.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>

>>
>>
>>


--
Ronald K. Goodenow, Ph.D.
RKG Digital Photography Services
Independent Writer and Researcher

508-393-5619
508-847-0111 (cell)
(E-Mail Removed) http://www.rkgprojects.com
(E-Mail Removed) http://www.rkgprojects.com/rkgdigiphoto.htm




 
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Taliesyn
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      15th Aug 2005
Ron Goodenow wrote:

> Thanks for this advice. Makes good sense. My experience with my previous
> Canons is that they are happiest when used frequently. Over the years
> I've had pretty good luck with eBay sellers and products (eg., batteries
> for digital cameras, etc.). My main concern is real red flags from
> actual users. And, I've unclogged a nozzle or two in my time....
>


Cleaning the nozzles even when not needed is probably good maintenance.
I say "probably" because Canon wouldn't want their customers to be
playing with the printhead when it's still under warranty.

Last June, after half a year of use, I took out out my printhead, put it
in a shallow dish and then ran spring water (distilled is even better)
through the intake tubes with a nose dropper. Never have more than a 1/4
inch of water in the dish, changing it frequently. I ran water through
them until no more color came out. A quick dry and it was back in the
printer for a prime, a nozzle check and a printhead alignment.

Yes, rather frequent use is best for any inkjet printer, even if it's
just a page. It avoids the drying of the ink in the nozzles which can
clog them. Everytime I see people posting a "clog problem" question,
they always admit they hardly used the printer. So...

I've only had one problem with a purchase on eBay, and that was a total
fraud scam; there was no actual item. eBay refunded me for most of the
value. On the other hand, I've had more that a 100 wonderful purchases.
You name it, I've bought it. I won't let one bad deal ruin the fun of
eBaying. It's a great shopping place when you consider you never have
to leave the comfort of your home. And I'd still call it "safe". Hey,
I stand a much bigger chance of being robbed or mugged in the street.

-Taliesyn

> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Dan G wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable
>>> seller and
>>> don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.
>>>

>>
>> Not a very professional response.
>>
>> I use very basic compatible cartridges (similar to what's on eBay) in a
>> printer with 1 pl nozzles, the smallest in the industry. I've had
>> absolutely no troubles since I bought the printer late last year.
>> I haven't even bothered to register it.
>>
>> Check that the eBay seller has a good reputation (feedback) and don't
>> necessarily buy the cheapest cartridges you see. Try a set to see how
>> they work with your printer and keep your original Canon ink cartridges
>> (that came with the printer) on hand in case of problems (to flush the
>> previous ink out) and for comparison to see how colors/photos match.
>>
>> The money you save with just one or two sets of compatibles is enough to
>> buy you a new printer.
>>
>> -Taliesyn
>>
>>>
>>> "Ron Goodenow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> newsn2Me.33935$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>> I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
>>>> printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
>>>> images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
>>>> purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
>>>> only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>>>>
>>>> Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
>>>> general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????
>>>>
>>>> I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
>>>> (the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
>>>> case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
>>>> prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000
>>>> inks
>>>> in any case).
>>>>
>>>> Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the
>>>> printer.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>

 
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Ron Goodenow
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      15th Aug 2005
Have you heard about the Windex remedy? On one of the photo sites I use
regularly a guy said he soaked his iP series print head in a dish of
Windex until it worked perfectly. Said it sometimes took 48 hours, but
it always did the trick. I've used running water on other Canons. They
sell cleaning cartridges, but I've never tried one of those. I used my
6000 heavily for four years and only had to replace printheads once,
using bulk ink 80% of the time. I'd cycle originals through now and
then. I travel a lot and sometimes the printer sits around unused.
Another trick is to do something like a heavy duty powerpoint page at
the highest settings.

So far results with the 3000 have been amazing on Kodak paper. It may be
HP that rots on the home net.

Again, thanks.
Taliesyn wrote:

> Ron Goodenow wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this advice. Makes good sense. My experience with my
>> previous Canons is that they are happiest when used frequently. Over
>> the years I've had pretty good luck with eBay sellers and products
>> (eg., batteries for digital cameras, etc.). My main concern is real
>> red flags from actual users. And, I've unclogged a nozzle or two in my
>> time....
>>

>
> Cleaning the nozzles even when not needed is probably good maintenance.
> I say "probably" because Canon wouldn't want their customers to be
> playing with the printhead when it's still under warranty.
>
> Last June, after half a year of use, I took out out my printhead, put it
> in a shallow dish and then ran spring water (distilled is even better)
> through the intake tubes with a nose dropper. Never have more than a 1/4
> inch of water in the dish, changing it frequently. I ran water through
> them until no more color came out. A quick dry and it was back in the
> printer for a prime, a nozzle check and a printhead alignment.
>
> Yes, rather frequent use is best for any inkjet printer, even if it's
> just a page. It avoids the drying of the ink in the nozzles which can
> clog them. Everytime I see people posting a "clog problem" question,
> they always admit they hardly used the printer. So...
>
> I've only had one problem with a purchase on eBay, and that was a total
> fraud scam; there was no actual item. eBay refunded me for most of the
> value. On the other hand, I've had more that a 100 wonderful purchases.
> You name it, I've bought it. I won't let one bad deal ruin the fun of
> eBaying. It's a great shopping place when you consider you never have
> to leave the comfort of your home. And I'd still call it "safe". Hey,
> I stand a much bigger chance of being robbed or mugged in the street.
>
> -Taliesyn
>
>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>
>>> Dan G wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable
>>>> seller and
>>>> don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not a very professional response.
>>>
>>> I use very basic compatible cartridges (similar to what's on eBay) in a
>>> printer with 1 pl nozzles, the smallest in the industry. I've had
>>> absolutely no troubles since I bought the printer late last year.
>>> I haven't even bothered to register it.
>>>
>>> Check that the eBay seller has a good reputation (feedback) and don't
>>> necessarily buy the cheapest cartridges you see. Try a set to see how
>>> they work with your printer and keep your original Canon ink cartridges
>>> (that came with the printer) on hand in case of problems (to flush the
>>> previous ink out) and for comparison to see how colors/photos match.
>>>
>>> The money you save with just one or two sets of compatibles is enough to
>>> buy you a new printer.
>>>
>>> -Taliesyn
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ron Goodenow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> newsn2Me.33935$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>
>>>>> I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
>>>>> printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
>>>>> images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
>>>>> purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
>>>>> only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
>>>>> general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
>>>>> (the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
>>>>> case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
>>>>> prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000
>>>>> inks
>>>>> in any case).
>>>>>
>>>>> Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the
>>>>> printer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>


--
Ronald K. Goodenow, Ph.D.
RKG Digital Photography Services
Independent Writer and Researcher

508-393-5619
508-847-0111 (cell)
(E-Mail Removed) http://www.rkgprojects.com
(E-Mail Removed) http://www.rkgprojects.com/rkgdigiphoto.htm




 
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      15th Aug 2005


Ron Goodenow wrote:

> I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
> printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
> images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
> purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
> only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>
> Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
> general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????



Buying **** from those whore will put you at risk for having clogged
nozzles. If you feel your printload is that high and the money saved is
that much and important then I guess you need to take a chance.

>
> I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
> (the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
> case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
> prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000
> inks in any case).
>
> Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the printer.
>
> Thanks.
>

 
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Dan G wrote:

>I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable seller and
>don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.
>
>


The reputable brand name inks for the Canon are form Canon. Costco is
the best price.

>
>"Ron Goodenow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>newsn2Me.33935$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>>I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
>>printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
>>images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
>>purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
>>only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>>
>>Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
>>general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????
>>
>>I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
>>(the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
>>case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
>>prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000 inks
>>in any case).
>>
>>Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the printer.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
>

 
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      15th Aug 2005


Taliesyn wrote:

> Dan G wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable
>> seller and
>> don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.
>>

>
> Not a very professional response. Do not listen to this kid.



A very good response.

>
> I use very basic compatible cartridges (similar to what's on eBay) in a
> printer with 1 pl nozzles, the smallest in the industry. I've had
> absolutely no troubles since I bought the printer late last year.
> I haven't even bothered to register it.
>
> Check that the eBay seller has a good reputation (feedback) and don't
> necessarily buy the cheapest cartridges you see. Try a set to see how
> they work with your printer and keep your original Canon ink cartridges
> (that came with the printer) on hand in case of problems (to flush the
> previous ink out) and for comparison to see how colors/photos match.
>
> The money you save with just one or two sets of compatibles is enough to
> buy you a new printer.
>
> -Taliesyn
>
>>
>> "Ron Goodenow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> newsn2Me.33935$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
>>> printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
>>> images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
>>> purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
>>> only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>>>
>>> Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
>>> general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????
>>>
>>> I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
>>> (the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
>>> case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
>>> prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000
>>> inks
>>> in any case).
>>>
>>> Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the
>>> printer.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>

>>
>>
>>

 
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      15th Aug 2005
Happy Cloggy Woggy from Inky Stinky

Ron Goodenow wrote:

> Thanks for this advice. Makes good sense. My experience with my
> previous Canons is that they are happiest when used frequently. Over
> the years I've had pretty good luck with eBay sellers and products
> (eg., batteries for digital cameras, etc.). My main concern is real
> red flags from actual users. And, I've unclogged a nozzle or two in my
> time....
>
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Dan G wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable
>>> seller and
>>> don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.
>>>

>>
>> Not a very professional response.
>>
>> I use very basic compatible cartridges (similar to what's on eBay) in a
>> printer with 1 pl nozzles, the smallest in the industry. I've had
>> absolutely no troubles since I bought the printer late last year.
>> I haven't even bothered to register it.
>>
>> Check that the eBay seller has a good reputation (feedback) and don't
>> necessarily buy the cheapest cartridges you see. Try a set to see how
>> they work with your printer and keep your original Canon ink cartridges
>> (that came with the printer) on hand in case of problems (to flush the
>> previous ink out) and for comparison to see how colors/photos match.
>>
>> The money you save with just one or two sets of compatibles is enough to
>> buy you a new printer.
>>
>> -Taliesyn
>>
>>>
>>> "Ron Goodenow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> newsn2Me.33935$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>> I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
>>>> printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
>>>> images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
>>>> purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
>>>> only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:
>>>>
>>>> Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
>>>> general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????
>>>>
>>>> I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
>>>> (the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
>>>> case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
>>>> prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000
>>>> inks
>>>> in any case).
>>>>
>>>> Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the
>>>> printer.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>

 
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