I'm making the transfer right now. Maybe I plugged it into a USB 1.0
port? I'd swear I did a 4.6G in well under an hour a week ago. Is there
a way to tell if I'm using 1.0 or 2.0?

BTW, is there a way to pause the xfer?

"W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:hk863j$j13$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm making the transfer right now. Maybe I plugged it into a USB 1.0 port?
> I'd swear I did a 4.6G in well under an hour a week ago. Is there a way to
> tell if I'm using 1.0 or 2.0?
>
> BTW, is there a way to pause the xfer?

Open device manager (Start, run, type in devmgmt.msc and press Enter) and go
to Universal Serial Bus Controllers. Look for an entry labeled Standard
Enhanced PCI to USB Controller, or something similar with the word Enhanced.
That would mean you have USB2.0 installed. You may also have 1.0, but not
likely unless it's an older motherboard. If it is, the front of the case
ports are more likely to be 1.0 than the rear ports.
--
SC Tom

SC Tom wrote:
>
> "W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:hk863j$j13$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'm making the transfer right now. Maybe I plugged it into a USB 1.0
>> port? I'd swear I did a 4.6G in well under an hour a week ago. Is
>> there a way to tell if I'm using 1.0 or 2.0?
>>
>> BTW, is there a way to pause the xfer?
>
> Open device manager (Start, run, type in devmgmt.msc and press Enter)
> and go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers. Look for an entry labeled
> Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Controller, or something similar with the
> word Enhanced. That would mean you have USB2.0 installed. You may also
> have 1.0, but not likely unless it's an older motherboard. If it is, the
> front of the case ports are more likely to be 1.0 than the rear ports.
I have 2.0 installed. I'm pretty sure it's in the back, which where I
have the HD installed. I'll look at the Device Mgr.

It could take months to get my new Win 7 machine set up. Yikes.

On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:41:24 -0800, "W. eWatson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>SC Tom wrote:
>>
>> "W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:hk863j$j13$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I'm making the transfer right now. Maybe I plugged it into a USB 1.0
>>> port? I'd swear I did a 4.6G in well under an hour a week ago. Is
>>> there a way to tell if I'm using 1.0 or 2.0?
>>>
>>> BTW, is there a way to pause the xfer?
>>
>> Open device manager (Start, run, type in devmgmt.msc and press Enter)
>> and go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers. Look for an entry labeled
>> Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Controller, or something similar with the
>> word Enhanced. That would mean you have USB2.0 installed. You may also
>> have 1.0, but not likely unless it's an older motherboard. If it is, the
>> front of the case ports are more likely to be 1.0 than the rear ports.
>I have 2.0 installed. I'm pretty sure it's in the back, which where I
>have the HD installed. I'll look at the Device Mgr.
>
>It could take months to get my new Win 7 machine set up. Yikes.

A) Anything good is worth waiting for.

B) This is your punishment for leaving XP.

More likely B.

W. eWatson wrote:
> SC Tom wrote:
>>
>> "W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:hk863j$j13$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I'm making the transfer right now. Maybe I plugged it into a USB 1.0
>>> port? I'd swear I did a 4.6G in well under an hour a week ago. Is
>>> there a way to tell if I'm using 1.0 or 2.0?
>>>
>>> BTW, is there a way to pause the xfer?
>>
>> Open device manager (Start, run, type in devmgmt.msc and press Enter)
>> and go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers. Look for an entry labeled
>> Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Controller, or something similar with the
>> word Enhanced. That would mean you have USB2.0 installed. You may also
>> have 1.0, but not likely unless it's an older motherboard. If it is,
>> the front of the case ports are more likely to be 1.0 than the rear
>> ports.
> I have 2.0 installed. I'm pretty sure it's in the back, which where I
> have the HD installed. I'll look at the Device Mgr.
>
> It could take months to get my new Win 7 machine set up. Yikes.

It should take roughly 3.6 hours to transfer 13GB at USB1.1 rates.
USB 1.1 manages about 1MB/sec for transfers, compared to 30MB/sec
if you are using USB 2.0. That "Enhanced" entry makes a difference :-)

You can use UVCView to check the current connection rate. The naming
scheme in USB, leaves a bit to be desired.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB

# A *low* speed rate of 1.5 Mbit/s (~183 KB/s) is defined by USB 1.0.
It is very similar to "full speed" operation except each bit takes 8 times
as long to transmit. It is intended primarily to save cost in low-bandwidth
human interface devices (HID) such as keyboards, mice, and joysticks.

# The *full* speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (~1.43 MB/s) is the basic USB data rate
defined by USB 1.1. All USB hubs support full speed.

# A *hi-speed* (USB 2.0) rate of 480 Mbit/s (~57 MB/s) was introduced in 2001.
All hi-speed devices are capable of falling back to full-speed operation if
necessary; they are backward compatible. Connectors are identical."

I was using UVCView just yesterday, while running Win2K on the machine, and
noticed the dreaded "full speed" indication on my external USB enclosure. I
used Device Manager to reinstall the USB and finally got it back to "hi-speed".
"Full speed" gives 1MB/sec practical transfer rate. "Hi-speed" gives 30MB/sec.
Storage devices really shouldn't be running in the "low" speed option.

Paul

W. eWatson wrote:
> I'm making the transfer right now. Maybe I plugged it into a USB 1.0
> port? I'd swear I did a 4.6G in well under an hour a week ago. Is there
> a way to tell if I'm using 1.0 or 2.0?
>
> BTW, is there a way to pause the xfer?

Well,

1 GB = 1073741824 bits, so 13 GB = 13958643712 bits;
3 hours = 10800 seconds

Thus 13 GB in 3 hours = 13958643712/10800 = 1292467 bps = 1.29 Mbps

"The full speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (~1.43 MB/s) is the basic USB data
rate defined by USB 1.1." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb)

So yes, it looks like you're connected using USB 1.1.

Usually, Windows will tell you when you connect a USB 2 capable device
into a USB 1 (or USB 1.1) port with the message, "This device can
perform faster if you connect it to a Hi-Speed USB 2.0 port - For a list
of available ports, click here". I suggest you stop the transfer,
unplug your drive, and reconnect it to see if you get the message.

--
Lem

Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html

On 2/1/2010 9:18 PM, mm wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:41:24 -0800, "W. eWatson"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> SC Tom wrote:
>>>
..
>>> word Enhanced. That would mean you have USB2.0 installed. You may also
>>> have 1.0, but not likely unless it's an older motherboard. If it is, the
>>> front of the case ports are more likely to be 1.0 than the rear ports.
>> I have 2.0 installed. I'm pretty sure it's in the back, which where I
>> have the HD installed. I'll look at the Device Mgr.
>>
>> It could take months to get my new Win 7 machine set up. Yikes.
>
> A) Anything good is worth waiting for.
>
> B) This is your punishment for leaving XP.
You might be right. :-)
>
> More likely B.

On 2/1/2010 10:57 PM, Lem wrote:
> W. eWatson wrote:
>> I'm making the transfer right now. Maybe I plugged it into a USB 1.0
>> port? I'd swear I did a 4.6G in well under an hour a week ago. Is
>> there a way to tell if I'm using 1.0 or 2.0?
>>
>> BTW, is there a way to pause the xfer?
>
> Well,
>
> 1 GB = 1073741824 bits, so 13 GB = 13958643712 bits;
> 3 hours = 10800 seconds
>
> Thus 13 GB in 3 hours = 13958643712/10800 = 1292467 bps = 1.29 Mbps
>
> "The full speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (~1.43 MB/s) is the basic USB data
> rate defined by USB 1.1." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb)
>
> So yes, it looks like you're connected using USB 1.1.
>
> Usually, Windows will tell you when you connect a USB 2 capable device
> into a USB 1 (or USB 1.1) port with the message, "This device can
> perform faster if you connect it to a Hi-Speed USB 2.0 port - For a list
> of available ports, click here". I suggest you stop the transfer, unplug
> your drive, and reconnect it to see if you get the message.
>
As I recall the Seagate Agent drive has no way to stop it. No that's
wrong. I had trouble finding the icon on w7, but it's easily accessible
in xp. W7 too, once you've developed some navigational knowledge of it.

On Feb 2, 12:24*pm, "W. eWatson" <wolftra...@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 2/1/2010 10:57 PM, Lem wrote:
>
> > W. eWatson wrote:
> >> I'm making the transfer right now. Maybe I plugged it into a USB 1.0
> >> port? I'd swear I did a 4.6G in well under an hour a week ago. Is
> >> there a way to tell if I'm using 1.0 or 2.0?
>
> >> BTW, is there a way to pause the xfer?
>
> > Well,
>
> > 1 GB = 1073741824 bits, so 13 GB = 13958643712 bits;
> > 3 hours = 10800 seconds
>
> > Thus 13 GB in 3 hours = 13958643712/10800 = 1292467 bps = 1.29 Mbps
>
> > "The full speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (~1.43 MB/s) is the basic USB data
> > rate defined by USB 1.1." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb)
>
> > So yes, it looks like you're connected using USB 1.1.
>
> > Usually, Windows will tell you when you connect a USB 2 capable device
> > into a USB 1 (or USB 1.1) port with the message, "This device can
> > perform faster if you connect it to a Hi-Speed USB 2.0 port - For a list
> > of available ports, click here". I suggest you stop the transfer, unplug
> > your drive, and reconnect it to see if you get the message.
>
> As I recall the Seagate Agent drive has no way to stop it. No that's
> wrong. I had trouble finding the icon on w7, but it's easily accessible
> in xp. W7 too, once you've developed some navigational knowledge of it.

You should check the hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostic
tools. Also, you may need to disconnect the other USB devices while
you are copying. USB power is shared over the entire number of ports.

On 2/2/2010 6:37 AM, smlunatick wrote:
....
>> As I recall the Seagate Agent drive has no way to stop it. No that's
>> wrong. I had trouble finding the icon on w7, but it's easily accessible
>> in xp. W7 too, once you've developed some navigational knowledge of it.
>
> You should check the hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostic
> tools. Also, you may need to disconnect the other USB devices while
> you are copying. USB power is shared over the entire number of ports.
OK, I was on a USB 1.0 port, which surprised me, since I thought the
ports on the USB card in the back of the PC were all 2.0. I guess the
only way I'm going to find out where the 2.0 ports are is to keep
plugging the cable until I find one. The PC is 5-6 years old, and I know
it has a 2.0 port somewhere.