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RedFox8391
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      26th Jan 2007
Installed a 2nd hd 160GB *internal* on usb, external enclosure, it gets
recognized by xp disk management, my computer, etc., I formatted it and
tried to load xp-pro, but after it formats and loads the OS and restarts
it gives me a BSOD saying it can not proceed, something is wrong, tells
me to *chkdsk /f* but I can not do it, does not let me get to it (hd), I
get the following codes: Stop:0x0000007B,(0xFC7C640, 0xC0000034,
0x00000000, 0x00000000).
When I check the hd (E, it has the Windows folder with all the files
but does not boot with the dual boot created by xp.
This is a Laptop with a 80GB HD with XP-Pro installed on it.

Any help will be much appreciated,

RedFox
 
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      26th Jan 2007
An Internal hd on an *External connection*, I dont believe this will work,
allthough there are some who have apparently succeeded

"RedFox8391" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Installed a 2nd hd 160GB *internal* on usb, external enclosure, it gets
> recognized by xp disk management, my computer, etc., I formatted it and
> tried to load xp-pro, but after it formats and loads the OS and restarts
> it gives me a BSOD saying it can not proceed, something is wrong, tells
> me to *chkdsk /f* but I can not do it, does not let me get to it (hd), I
> get the following codes: Stop:0x0000007B,(0xFC7C640, 0xC0000034,
> 0x00000000, 0x00000000).
> When I check the hd (E, it has the Windows folder with all the files
> but does not boot with the dual boot created by xp.
> This is a Laptop with a 80GB HD with XP-Pro installed on it.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated,
>
> RedFox



 
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      27th Jan 2007

> "RedFox8391" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Installed a 2nd hd 160GB *internal* on usb, external enclosure, it gets
>> recognized by xp disk management, my computer, etc., I formatted it and
>> tried to load xp-pro, but after it formats and loads the OS and restarts
>> it gives me a BSOD saying it can not proceed, something is wrong, tells
>> me to *chkdsk /f* but I can not do it, does not let me get to it (hd), I
>> get the following codes: Stop:0x0000007B,(0xFC7C640, 0xC0000034,
>> 0x00000000, 0x00000000).
>> When I check the hd (E, it has the Windows folder with all the files
>> but does not boot with the dual boot created by xp.
>> This is a Laptop with a 80GB HD with XP-Pro installed on it.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated,
>>
>> RedFox



RedFox:
Could you explain what you mean when you say that you "tried to load xp-pro"
on your USB external hard drive? Are you trying to install the XP OS onto
that USBEHD? Or have you somehow accomplished this through your present
laptop's OS? Or did you use a disk imaging program to clone the contents of
your laptop's HDD to the external HDD?

What do you mean "it does not boot with the dual boot created by xp". When
you boot to your laptop with the USBEHD connected you get a boot menu from
XP?

Anyway, while an XP OS can be installed on a USBEHD through a disk-cloning
operation using a disk imaging program, it is not bootable under those
circumstances.
Anna


 
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RedFox8391
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      27th Jan 2007
Anna wrote:
>> "RedFox8391" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Installed a 2nd hd 160GB *internal* on usb, external enclosure, it gets
>>> recognized by xp disk management, my computer, etc., I formatted it and
>>> tried to load xp-pro, but after it formats and loads the OS and restarts
>>> it gives me a BSOD saying it can not proceed, something is wrong, tells
>>> me to *chkdsk /f* but I can not do it, does not let me get to it (hd), I
>>> get the following codes: Stop:0x0000007B,(0xFC7C640, 0xC0000034,
>>> 0x00000000, 0x00000000).
>>> When I check the hd (E, it has the Windows folder with all the files
>>> but does not boot with the dual boot created by xp.
>>> This is a Laptop with a 80GB HD with XP-Pro installed on it.
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated,
>>>
>>> RedFox

>
>
> RedFox:
> Could you explain what you mean when you say that you "tried to load xp-pro"
> on your USB external hard drive? Are you trying to install the XP OS onto
> that USBEHD? Or have you somehow accomplished this through your present
> laptop's OS? Or did you use a disk imaging program to clone the contents of
> your laptop's HDD to the external HDD?


Loaded my XP-Pro cd and booted from it, it sees my new HD, formats it,
gives it the letter E:, loads the files on it, and then it goes to next
step which is *restart* and then I get the BSOD with the codes I
included here.
>
> What do you mean "it does not boot with the dual boot created by xp". When
> you boot to your laptop with the USBEHD connected you get a boot menu from
> XP?


When xp-pro starts to load another OS or same above, it creates a dual
boot automacticaly.
>
> Anyway, while an XP OS can be installed on a USBEHD through a disk-cloning
> operation using a disk imaging program, it is not bootable under those
> circumstances.
> Anna


Did not clone it, installed it has a regular xp install. it's a regular
hd, I do have a external hd for extra storage/backups on a usb/Firewire
(in this case, it's connected to the 1394), configuration but did not
fire it up just to not cause any confusion.

Thanks Anna

RedFox


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Stefan Z Camilleri
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      27th Jan 2007
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:08:22 +0100, Anna <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>> "RedFox8391" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Installed a 2nd hd 160GB *internal* on usb, external enclosure, it gets
>>> recognized by xp disk management, my computer, etc., I formatted it and
>>> tried to load xp-pro, but after it formats and loads the OS and
>>> restarts
>>> it gives me a BSOD saying it can not proceed, something is wrong, tells
>>> me to *chkdsk /f* but I can not do it, does not let me get to it (hd),
>>> I
>>> get the following codes: Stop:0x0000007B,(0xFC7C640, 0xC0000034,
>>> 0x00000000, 0x00000000).
>>> When I check the hd (E, it has the Windows folder with all the files
>>> but does not boot with the dual boot created by xp.
>>> This is a Laptop with a 80GB HD with XP-Pro installed on it.
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated,
>>>
>>> RedFox

>
>
> RedFox:
> Could you explain what you mean when you say that you "tried to load
> xp-pro"
> on your USB external hard drive? Are you trying to install the XP OS onto
> that USBEHD? Or have you somehow accomplished this through your present
> laptop's OS? Or did you use a disk imaging program to clone the contents
> of
> your laptop's HDD to the external HDD?
>
> What do you mean "it does not boot with the dual boot created by xp".
> When
> you boot to your laptop with the USBEHD connected you get a boot menu
> from
> XP?
>
> Anyway, while an XP OS can be installed on a USBEHD through a
> disk-cloning
> operation using a disk imaging program, it is not bootable under those
> circumstances.
> Anna
>
>


The only way for this to work is to obtain a hacked copy of a windows XP
kernel that boots off a USB flash drive.... there are some running around
the net.

The reason for this is, I believe, that the USB bus is re-initialised
toward the end of the boot-up sequence, after the USB bus drivers are
loaded, this is so that all connected devices will trigger the required
hardware interrupts for the OS to detect them.

So what is effectively happening here is that the kernel is cutting access
to itself basically... resulting in a BSOD.

Just in case, there exists a generic USB driver here -->
http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm that you might want to play around with
(through the F6 - Install SCSI drivers option)... though I have little
faith that it would work.

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- www.szc001.com
 
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RedFox8391
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      27th Jan 2007
Stefan Z Camilleri wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:08:22 +0100, Anna <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>
>>> "RedFox8391" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Installed a 2nd hd 160GB *internal* on usb, external enclosure, it gets
>>>> recognized by xp disk management, my computer, etc., I formatted it and
>>>> tried to load xp-pro, but after it formats and loads the OS and
>>>> restarts
>>>> it gives me a BSOD saying it can not proceed, something is wrong, tells
>>>> me to *chkdsk /f* but I can not do it, does not let me get to it
>>>> (hd), I
>>>> get the following codes: Stop:0x0000007B,(0xFC7C640, 0xC0000034,
>>>> 0x00000000, 0x00000000).
>>>> When I check the hd (E, it has the Windows folder with all the files
>>>> but does not boot with the dual boot created by xp.
>>>> This is a Laptop with a 80GB HD with XP-Pro installed on it.
>>>>
>>>> Any help will be much appreciated,
>>>>
>>>> RedFox

>>
>>
>> RedFox:
>> Could you explain what you mean when you say that you "tried to load
>> xp-pro"
>> on your USB external hard drive? Are you trying to install the XP OS onto
>> that USBEHD? Or have you somehow accomplished this through your present
>> laptop's OS? Or did you use a disk imaging program to clone the
>> contents of
>> your laptop's HDD to the external HDD?
>>
>> What do you mean "it does not boot with the dual boot created by xp".
>> When
>> you boot to your laptop with the USBEHD connected you get a boot menu
>> from
>> XP?
>>
>> Anyway, while an XP OS can be installed on a USBEHD through a
>> disk-cloning
>> operation using a disk imaging program, it is not bootable under those
>> circumstances.
>> Anna
>>
>>

>
> The only way for this to work is to obtain a hacked copy of a windows XP
> kernel that boots off a USB flash drive.... there are some running
> around the net.
>
> The reason for this is, I believe, that the USB bus is re-initialised
> toward the end of the boot-up sequence, after the USB bus drivers are
> loaded, this is so that all connected devices will trigger the required
> hardware interrupts for the OS to detect them.
>
> So what is effectively happening here is that the kernel is cutting
> access to itself basically... resulting in a BSOD.
>
> Just in case, there exists a generic USB driver here -->
> http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm that you might want to play around with
> (through the F6 - Install SCSI drivers option)... though I have little
> faith that it would work.
>
> --- Stefan Z Camilleri
> - www.szc001.com


Thanks Stephan, but I'm not a techie by any chance, just that I once had
a desktop with 6 hard drives and different OS's in each, from WinForW
3.11, Win95, Win98, WinMe, WinXpHome and Xp-pro, so I thought I could
install it here in this Laptop without any trouble and all I find is
*PROBLEMS*?? (that desktop I built with great help from a friend, mostly
done by him, thank God!!).
Are you sure I can't do it here?? do you know what those error codes do
mean't?? wish I would be able to tinker with those usb drivers!!

I do need help, quite a lot, I know!!

Thanks

RedFox
 
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Stefan Z Camilleri
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      27th Jan 2007
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:07:06 +0100, RedFox8391 <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>
> Thanks Stephan, but I'm not a techie by any chance, just that I once had
> a desktop with 6 hard drives and different OS's in each, from WinForW
> 3.11, Win95, Win98, WinMe, WinXpHome and Xp-pro, so I thought I could
> install it here in this Laptop without any trouble and all I find is
> *PROBLEMS*?? (that desktop I built with great help from a friend, mostly
> done by him, thank God!!).
> Are you sure I can't do it here?? do you know what those error codes do
> mean't?? wish I would be able to tinker with those usb drivers!!
>
> I do need help, quite a lot, I know!!
>
> Thanks
>
> RedFox


Unfortunately it is not so easy, that error code means "Inaccessible Boot
Device" which is basically what I explained

Well, if you're adventerous and want to play around a little, try using
this to build your OS --> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Remember, even though this is a hdd we're talking about, as far as windows
is concerned, this is just another usb drive... it could be a pen drive
for all it cares.

The instructions are very detailed, but the idea is that it does what I
explained above for you.


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      27th Jan 2007
Stefan Z Camilleri wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:07:06 +0100, RedFox8391 <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Stephan, but I'm not a techie by any chance, just that I once
>> had a desktop with 6 hard drives and different OS's in each, from
>> WinForW 3.11, Win95, Win98, WinMe, WinXpHome and Xp-pro, so I thought
>> I could install it here in this Laptop without any trouble and all I
>> find is *PROBLEMS*?? (that desktop I built with great help from a
>> friend, mostly done by him, thank God!!).
>> Are you sure I can't do it here?? do you know what those error codes
>> do mean't?? wish I would be able to tinker with those usb drivers!!
>>
>> I do need help, quite a lot, I know!!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> RedFox

>
> Unfortunately it is not so easy, that error code means "Inaccessible
> Boot Device" which is basically what I explained
>
> Well, if you're adventerous and want to play around a little, try using
> this to build your OS --> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>
> Remember, even though this is a hdd we're talking about, as far as
> windows is concerned, this is just another usb drive... it could be a
> pen drive for all it cares.
>
> The instructions are very detailed, but the idea is that it does what I
> explained above for you.
>
>
> --- Stefan Z Camilleri
> - www.szc001.com


I went to that website and read the page, it seems that it makes a
bootable cd/dvd and he also talks about a slipstreemed cd/dvd? is this
the same as the other and what exactly that does for me and my
problem??please remember that I'm not a techie, I need very detailed
instructions in order to understand and be able to follow those
instructions, does that boo cd/dvd will make xp boot from the usb
drive?? and how so?? I do have the xp cd and a separate sp2 cd, would it
make a slipstreemed cd/dvd from the hard drive as he say's??

Thanks very much for your patience,

RedFox
 
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DL
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      27th Jan 2007
It creates a cd/dvd which is bootable and allows you to intregate drivers
and other such things into the cd.

However this alone will not enable you to boot from your external drive.
BTW Since you ignored my first post; to reiterate, when it is stated win
wont boot from an external disk it means from an external connection. Not
the type of HD, and since you connect via usb as others have posted it could
be simply a memory stick.

I dont know whether a mobo with an eSata or external sata connector would
enable you to boot from an external enclosure.

"RedFox8391" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Stefan Z Camilleri wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:07:06 +0100, RedFox8391 <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks Stephan, but I'm not a techie by any chance, just that I once
> >> had a desktop with 6 hard drives and different OS's in each, from
> >> WinForW 3.11, Win95, Win98, WinMe, WinXpHome and Xp-pro, so I thought
> >> I could install it here in this Laptop without any trouble and all I
> >> find is *PROBLEMS*?? (that desktop I built with great help from a
> >> friend, mostly done by him, thank God!!).
> >> Are you sure I can't do it here?? do you know what those error codes
> >> do mean't?? wish I would be able to tinker with those usb drivers!!
> >>
> >> I do need help, quite a lot, I know!!
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> RedFox

> >
> > Unfortunately it is not so easy, that error code means "Inaccessible
> > Boot Device" which is basically what I explained
> >
> > Well, if you're adventerous and want to play around a little, try using
> > this to build your OS --> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
> >
> > Remember, even though this is a hdd we're talking about, as far as
> > windows is concerned, this is just another usb drive... it could be a
> > pen drive for all it cares.
> >
> > The instructions are very detailed, but the idea is that it does what I
> > explained above for you.
> >
> >
> > --- Stefan Z Camilleri
> > - www.szc001.com

>
> I went to that website and read the page, it seems that it makes a
> bootable cd/dvd and he also talks about a slipstreemed cd/dvd? is this
> the same as the other and what exactly that does for me and my
> problem??please remember that I'm not a techie, I need very detailed
> instructions in order to understand and be able to follow those
> instructions, does that boo cd/dvd will make xp boot from the usb
> drive?? and how so?? I do have the xp cd and a separate sp2 cd, would it
> make a slipstreemed cd/dvd from the hard drive as he say's??
>
> Thanks very much for your patience,
>
> RedFox



 
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DL wrote:
> It creates a cd/dvd which is bootable and allows you to intregate drivers
> and other such things into the cd.
>
> However this alone will not enable you to boot from your external drive.
> BTW Since you ignored my first post; to reiterate, when it is stated win
> wont boot from an external disk it means from an external connection. Not
> the type of HD, and since you connect via usb as others have posted it could
> be simply a memory stick.
>
> I dont know whether a mobo with an eSata or external sata connector would
> enable you to boot from an external enclosure.
>
> "RedFox8391" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Stefan Z Camilleri wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:07:06 +0100, RedFox8391 <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Stephan, but I'm not a techie by any chance, just that I once
>>>> had a desktop with 6 hard drives and different OS's in each, from
>>>> WinForW 3.11, Win95, Win98, WinMe, WinXpHome and Xp-pro, so I thought
>>>> I could install it here in this Laptop without any trouble and all I
>>>> find is *PROBLEMS*?? (that desktop I built with great help from a
>>>> friend, mostly done by him, thank God!!).
>>>> Are you sure I can't do it here?? do you know what those error codes
>>>> do mean't?? wish I would be able to tinker with those usb drivers!!
>>>>
>>>> I do need help, quite a lot, I know!!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> RedFox
>>> Unfortunately it is not so easy, that error code means "Inaccessible
>>> Boot Device" which is basically what I explained
>>>
>>> Well, if you're adventerous and want to play around a little, try using
>>> this to build your OS --> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>>>
>>> Remember, even though this is a hdd we're talking about, as far as
>>> windows is concerned, this is just another usb drive... it could be a
>>> pen drive for all it cares.
>>>
>>> The instructions are very detailed, but the idea is that it does what I
>>> explained above for you.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Stefan Z Camilleri
>>> - www.szc001.com

>> I went to that website and read the page, it seems that it makes a
>> bootable cd/dvd and he also talks about a slipstreemed cd/dvd? is this
>> the same as the other and what exactly that does for me and my
>> problem??please remember that I'm not a techie, I need very detailed
>> instructions in order to understand and be able to follow those
>> instructions, does that boo cd/dvd will make xp boot from the usb
>> drive?? and how so?? I do have the xp cd and a separate sp2 cd, would it
>> make a slipstreemed cd/dvd from the hard drive as he say's??
>>
>> Thanks very much for your patience,
>>
>> RedFox

>
>

DL,
thanks for your advice, it's very welcome. My HD is a sata one that I
bought during a special sale at CompUsa on advice from the local tech
who said that it would work ok either as a sata or an ide even if my
mobo does not offer a sata connection long as I had the external
enclosure with the right connections which I proceeded to get one, the
reason to buy this hd was one of savings, with the special pricing and
rebate, it cost just $29.99!! fo a 160GB hd. For booting up purposes
does not make a difference which hd I use, right???
That cd/dvd from BartPE just allows me to install drivers but does not
allow me to boot from it, right?? still does not allow to finish
installing the xp-pro OS???
My laptop is a Pentium M, Dothan Centrino 1.7GHZ, 845GM Chipset (?), 1
GB Ram, ATI 9700M-11 128MB Ram, 80GB EIDE HD, about 2 yrs old.
As a solution to my problem with running 2 OS's either different ones or
the same, I could reformat the internal hd in 2 partitions (bootable?)
and just use the external for storage purposes right? This problem of
mine with wanting to have 2 bootable hd's mainly was for the purpose of
experimenting with Linux OS's like Ubuntu, see if could learn to work
with it and would like to operate it, I have been looking around and I
think this is the right time to go into it, what do you think about it??
I'm retired and money is not easily available as you might know, but I
would like to get my hands on a older desktop setup, not too old, right?
that way I could eliminate all these problems with extra drives that not
work to my expectations.

Thanks again,

RedFox
 
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