I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I do, I will need a 24
inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it. Where can I get a quality cable at
a reasonable price?

Is it better to get a flat cable or a round cable? If the flat cables
are better, would a good quality round cable be good enough?

Do DVD writers (I will probably get the LG multi format drive) use error
correction/detection firmware so that they can compensate for marginal
cables? Thank you in advance for all replies.
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Daniel Prince <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

> I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I
> do, I will need a 24 inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it.

That flouts the standard which only allows 18 inches.

> Where can I get a quality cable at a reasonable price?

> Is it better to get a flat cable or a round cable?

Flat, round cables flout the standard too.

> If the flat cables are better, would a good
> quality round cable be good enough?

It may work.

> Do DVD writers (I will probably get the LG multi format
> drive) use error correction/detection firmware so that
> they can compensate for marginal cables?

Thats part of the higher UDMA standard.

> the only way I could keep my cat off the kitchen table would be to
> tie him up with a cable then he would be unable to get on the table

Wrong. If you put a bullet in the back of its neck, or drive
over it and squash it flat, it wouldnt be able to get on the table.

Previously Daniel Prince <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I do, I will need a 24
> inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it. Where can I get a quality cable at
> a reasonable price?

> Is it better to get a flat cable or a round cable? If the flat cables
> are better, would a good quality round cable be good enough?

Does not matter. It will only work if the DVD-Writer supports UDMA
checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,
so without the error checking the writer will become unusable.
With UDMA CRC, it may still not work. I have some 90cm (35" for
the metrically challenged)
round cables, that will cause drives connected to them fail after
some time since there are just too many errors and the Linux kernel
concludes tat the drive is defective. Cut down to 60cm (24") they work
fine with single newer HDDs, but not with my CD writer or DVD-ROM.

> Do DVD writers (I will probably get the LG multi format drive) use error
> correction/detection firmware so that they can compensate for marginal
> cables? Thank you in advance for all replies.

No idea. My CD-writer (TEAC CD-W540E) does not use UDMA CRC checks
and just burns disks with some bits wrong (uncorrectable) if used
with a longer or a round cable.

Arno
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Daniel Prince wrote:

> I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I do, I will need a 24
> inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it.

What you need is a DVD writer with an interface that supports a 24 inch
cable, like USB or SCSI (or perhaps Firewire).

Where can I get a quality cable at
> a reasonable price?
>
> Is it better to get a flat cable or a round cable? If the flat cables
> are better, would a good quality round cable be good enough?
>
> Do DVD writers (I will probably get the LG multi format drive) use error
> correction/detection firmware so that they can compensate for marginal
> cables? Thank you in advance for all replies.


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"Arno Wagner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:bqsugs$24n3ec$(E-Mail Removed)
> Previously Daniel Prince <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > I plan to get a DVD writer early next year. When I do, I will need a 24
> > inch, 80 wire, cable to connect it. Where can I get a quality cable at
> > a reasonable price?
>
> > Is it better to get a flat cable or a round cable? If the flat cables
> > are better, would a good quality round cable be good enough?
>
> Does not matter. It will only work if the DVD-Writer supports UDMA

> checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,

So now he's a clairvoyent too.

> so without the error checking the writer will become unusable.
> With UDMA CRC, it may still not work. I have some 90cm (35" for
> the metrically challenged)
> round cables, that will cause drives connected to them fail after
> some time since there are just too many errors and the Linux kernel
> concludes tat the drive is defective. Cut down to 60cm (24") they work
> fine with single newer HDDs, but not with my CD writer or DVD-ROM.
>
> > Do DVD writers (I will probably get the LG multi format drive) use error
> > correction/detection firmware so that they can compensate for marginal
> > cables? Thank you in advance for all replies.
>
> No idea. My CD-writer (TEAC CD-W540E) does not use UDMA CRC checks
> and just burns disks with some bits wrong (uncorrectable) if used
> with a longer or a round cable.
>
> Arno

Previously Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> "Arno Wagner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:bqsugs$24n3ec$(E-Mail Removed)
[...]
>> checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,

> So now he's a clairvoyent too.

O.K., I'll bite.

No, dear Folkert, unlike you I am just a good engineer and
understand the fundamentals of signal transmission.

Arno
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"Arno Wagner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:br0be8$27d1g9$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Previously Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > "Arno Wagner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bqsugs$24n3ec$(E-Mail Removed)
> [...]
> >> checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,
>
> > So now he's a clairvoyent too.
>
> O.K., I'll bite.
>
> No, dear Folkert, unlike you I am just a good engineer and
> understand the fundamentals of signal transmission.
>

It's a shame that the resistance level is so high since SCSI can cure all
ills in this situation, no questions asked. Some people are just slow
learners.

Rita

"Arno Wagner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:br0be8$27d1g9$(E-Mail Removed)
> Previously Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > "Arno Wagner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:bqsugs$24n3ec$(E-Mail Removed)
> [...]
> > > checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,
>
> > So now he's a clairvoyent too.
>
> O.K., I'll bite.

I won't.

>
> No, dear Folkert, unlike you I am just a good engineer

An obvious and shameless lie.

> and understand the fundamentals of signal transmission.

E00151R0 Proposed ATA/ATAPI 80-Conductor Cable Length Extension

Introduction:

This paper attempts to encourage further investigation into the use of
longer 80-conductor cables by presenting experimental data that show
negligible differences in Ultra DMA Mode 5 signal integrity between
a 27-inch, 80-conductor cable and an 18-inch, 80-conductor cable.

>
> Arno

Who is mostly clueless, but doesn't let that get in his way.

"Rita_A_Berkowitz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Arno Wagner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:br0be8$27d1g9$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Previously Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > > "Arno Wagner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bqsugs$24n3ec$(E-Mail Removed)
> > [...]
> > >> checksums. With this cablelength you will get transmission errors,
> >
> > > So now he's a clairvoyent too.
> >
> > O.K., I'll bite.
> >
> > No, dear Folkert, unlike you I am just a good engineer and
> > understand the fundamentals of signal transmission.
> >
>
> It's a shame that the resistance level is so high since SCSI can cure all
> ills in this situation, no questions asked. Some people are just slow learners.

And fools like you are mindless one eyed bigots.

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:55:02 GMT, CJT <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>What you need is a DVD writer with an interface that supports a 24 inch
>cable, like USB or SCSI (or perhaps Firewire).

No, all he needs is a cable that is of higher quality than the norm.
Yes, there are such products on the market. Round ones too.