I wonder if I can install 2003 and use the subscription that was paid for
by purchase of 2004?
Norton AV 2004 is significantly slower than 2003 or 2002. Especially at
startup.
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I bought NAV 2004 Retail. After rebates, net cost=tax and postage. This
was cheaper than online resubscription. (Resub = $25, I think.) I don't do
online financial activities.

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> I wonder if I can install 2003 and use the subscription that was paid for
> by purchase of 2004?
> Norton AV 2004 is significantly slower than 2003 or 2002. Especially at
> startup.

I checked out my father's 9x machine at the weekend, on which he'd recently
updated to NAV 2004. He was starting with resources down to < 40%. When I
checked out what he had loading at Startup there were at least half a dozen
related to NAV. That alone I think makes clear they are not designing for 9x
(though many would say not for NT either).

You do know you can manually download defs from
http://securityresponse.symantec.com...es/US-N95.html
though program updates will usually need to be acquired via LiveUpdate. I
use it to keep a 10-year old DOS scanner updated. I'd be surprised if you
could do what you want, easily, given Symantec don't like their customers
and rely entirely on people thinking the best known must be the best.


Shane

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:11:28 +0100, "Shane"
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>You do know you can manually download defs from
>http://securityresponse.symantec.com...es/US-N95.html
>though program updates will usually need to be acquired via LiveUpdate. I
>use it to keep a 10-year old DOS scanner updated.

NAVC for DOS? Sure it still works? I mean _really_ works. As in being
able to detect all the varieties of modern malware that recent GUI
versions do. Some old DOS scanners are best left to die of old age and
be forgotten


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

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> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:11:28 +0100, "Shane"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >You do know you can manually download defs from
> >http://securityresponse.symantec.com...es/US-N95.html
> >though program updates will usually need to be acquired via LiveUpdate. I
> >use it to keep a 10-year old DOS scanner updated.
>
> NAVC for DOS? Sure it still works? I mean _really_ works. As in being
> able to detect all the varieties of modern malware that recent GUI
> versions do. Some old DOS scanners are best left to die of old age and
> be forgotten
>

Actually, Art, I'm using the more recent NAVDX (that comes with NAV).
Intelligent Updater didn't recognise it as a standalone scanner, but it does
recognise NAVC as such, so I extracted NAVC then copied the NAVDX files (in
fact everything from NAV less the obviously Windows components) into that
directory.

I couldn't say for sure it detects all the varieties, but it stacked up well
enough alongside Mcafee's SCANPM, Trend's PCSCAN (?), F-Prot and Kavdos32,
being the five scanners (that did well enough) that I settled on for running
in real mode. It alerts on most of the recent malware samples I tested, and
identifies them, so it's obviously updating to a degree.

Still, I'll use Kaspersky first, then Trend or Mcafee, then F-Prot, so it's
almost redundant, really, always fifth choice.

(I should've thought to grab the most recent files from my dad's NAV 2004!
The ones I'm using are from NAV2001, so maybe they're a bit long in the
tooth themselves now)

Shane

"Shane" <(E-Mail Removed)> in
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> You do know you can manually download defs from
> http://securityresponse.symantec.com...load/pages/US-
N95.htm
> l though program updates will usually need to be acquired via
> LiveUpdate. I use it to keep a 10-year old DOS scanner updated. I'd be
> surprised if you could do what you want, easily, given Symantec don't
> like their customers and rely entirely on people thinking the best
> known must be the best.

the updater checks for subscription, but i uninstall 2004 then install
2003, i don't know if updater will 'find' the subscription.


>
> Shane
>
>

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> "Shane" <(E-Mail Removed)> in
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>
>
>
>
> > You do know you can manually download defs from
> > http://securityresponse.symantec.com...load/pages/US-
> N95.htm
> > l though program updates will usually need to be acquired via
> > LiveUpdate. I use it to keep a 10-year old DOS scanner updated. I'd be
> > surprised if you could do what you want, easily, given Symantec don't
> > like their customers and rely entirely on people thinking the best
> > known must be the best.
>
> the updater checks for subscription, but i uninstall 2004 then install
> 2003, i don't know if updater will 'find' the subscription.
>
>

Yes. With DRM it may be an issue. It used to be that, if you re-installed
NAV you started afresh. Thus if a retail version, you got another year's
subscriptions, if OEM another 3 months-worth. All you can really do is
either do it and see if it works, or ask Symantec. But - this would probably
have worked before DRM (though was unnecessary if re-installing NAV, for
reason above): Now, who knows. Search your computer for files called
catalog.livesubscribe. Note it's location or locations. Write them down and
make backups of the file(s). Then, having removed 2004 and re-installed
2003, restore those catalog.livesubscribe files to the correct location(s).
It's probably best to do this after the re-installation but before the
reboot. If FAT32, do it from a DOS boot. If it doesn't work, that's DRM for
you!

Shane