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Timber
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      27th Feb 2004
I have a machine on my network (peer-to-peer workgroup)
running 2000 Professional which will allow any user from
that workgroup to log on to it, regardless of whether they
have an existing login defined in Users and Passwords. Is
there any way to change this?
I want only specified users to be able to log on to this
machine.
 
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Steven L Umbach
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      27th Feb 2004
I asume you mean network logon as accessing a share?? You can not logon to a
machine locally at the console unless you have a user account to
authenticate against the local sam [unless autologon is enabled]. My guess
is that the guest account may be enabled on the machine offering shares in
which case any network user can access it. If it is enabled, disable via
lusrmgr.msc [enter in run box] and select users/guest account and then
disable it. --- Steve


"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a machine on my network (peer-to-peer workgroup)
> running 2000 Professional which will allow any user from
> that workgroup to log on to it, regardless of whether they
> have an existing login defined in Users and Passwords. Is
> there any way to change this?
> I want only specified users to be able to log on to this
> machine.



 
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Timber
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      27th Feb 2004
I'm sorry, I didn't explain well. I have a machine
running NT 4.0 Server that is a part of the workgroup.
My 2000 allows any person locally at it to log on to
either (this computer) or to the workgroup.
If they choose to log on to the workgroup, any user
defined on the NT 4.0 Server can log on to the 2000
without being defined in it's Users and Passwords.

>-----Original Message-----
>I asume you mean network logon as accessing a share?? You

can not logon to a
>machine locally at the console unless you have a user

account to
>authenticate against the local sam [unless autologon is

enabled]. My guess
>is that the guest account may be enabled on the machine

offering shares in
>which case any network user can access it. If it is

enabled, disable via
>lusrmgr.msc [enter in run box] and select users/guest

account and then
>disable it. --- Steve
>
>
>"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

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>news:09a201c3fd7a$536bb170$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have a machine on my network (peer-to-peer workgroup)
>> running 2000 Professional which will allow any user from
>> that workgroup to log on to it, regardless of whether

they
>> have an existing login defined in Users and Passwords.

Is
>> there any way to change this?
>> I want only specified users to be able to log on to this
>> machine.

>
>
>.
>

 
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Timber
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      27th Feb 2004
Btw--> the guest account is already disabled.
In case you're right, is there any way to disable the
Guest group? I'm not seeing that option.

>-----Original Message-----
>I asume you mean network logon as accessing a share?? You

can not logon to a
>machine locally at the console unless you have a user

account to
>authenticate against the local sam [unless autologon is

enabled]. My guess
>is that the guest account may be enabled on the machine

offering shares in
>which case any network user can access it. If it is

enabled, disable via
>lusrmgr.msc [enter in run box] and select users/guest

account and then
>disable it. --- Steve
>
>
>"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:09a201c3fd7a$536bb170$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have a machine on my network (peer-to-peer workgroup)
>> running 2000 Professional which will allow any user from
>> that workgroup to log on to it, regardless of whether

they
>> have an existing login defined in Users and Passwords.

Is
>> there any way to change this?
>> I want only specified users to be able to log on to this
>> machine.

>
>
>.
>

 
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Steven L Umbach
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      28th Feb 2004
I am still confused. There are two types of normal use logon. Interactive/console
where a user logs onto the local computer entering their logon name and password to
get access, or network where a user already logged onto a local computer tries to
access a network share on another computer. There is not a workgroup logon per se. A
user logged onto a local computer will need to have credentials to access a share on
a network computer, either their logged on credentials or they will be prompted for
credentials to access the share if their user account that they are logged onto the
local computer does not exist on the target computer offering the share. However if
the computer offering the share has the guest account enabled and the share/ntfs
permissions include the everyone group then anyone from anywhere will get access even
if they do not have a user account on the computer offering the share. --- Steve


"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:375501c3fd83$eae73570$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm sorry, I didn't explain well. I have a machine
> running NT 4.0 Server that is a part of the workgroup.
> My 2000 allows any person locally at it to log on to
> either (this computer) or to the workgroup.
> If they choose to log on to the workgroup, any user
> defined on the NT 4.0 Server can log on to the 2000
> without being defined in it's Users and Passwords.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I asume you mean network logon as accessing a share?? You

> can not logon to a
> >machine locally at the console unless you have a user

> account to
> >authenticate against the local sam [unless autologon is

> enabled]. My guess
> >is that the guest account may be enabled on the machine

> offering shares in
> >which case any network user can access it. If it is

> enabled, disable via
> >lusrmgr.msc [enter in run box] and select users/guest

> account and then
> >disable it. --- Steve
> >
> >
> >"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >news:09a201c3fd7a$536bb170$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I have a machine on my network (peer-to-peer workgroup)
> >> running 2000 Professional which will allow any user from
> >> that workgroup to log on to it, regardless of whether

> they
> >> have an existing login defined in Users and Passwords.

> Is
> >> there any way to change this?
> >> I want only specified users to be able to log on to this
> >> machine.

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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Timber
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      2nd Mar 2004
I'm not concerned about the computer's shares. I'm
speaking about a person physically logging onto this
specific PC/console.
They are given a choice at the Log on to Windows
screen "Log on to [pull-down menu]"; our workgroup (which
is managed by our NT 4.0 Server) is allowed as a choice in
this pull-down menu. If they are recognized as a user
defined in the NT Server, this physical windows 2000 PC
will allow them to log on to it, even though they are not
defined as a user in the PC's User and Password settings.
Is there any way to stop this?

>-----Original Message-----
>I am still confused. There are two types of normal use

logon. Interactive/console
>where a user logs onto the local computer entering their

logon name and password to
>get access, or network where a user already logged onto a

local computer tries to
>access a network share on another computer. There is not

a workgroup logon per se. A
>user logged onto a local computer will need to have

credentials to access a share on
>a network computer, either their logged on credentials or

they will be prompted for
>credentials to access the share if their user account

that they are logged onto the
>local computer does not exist on the target computer

offering the share. However if
>the computer offering the share has the guest account

enabled and the share/ntfs
>permissions include the everyone group then anyone from

anywhere will get access even
>if they do not have a user account on the computer

offering the share. --- Steve
>
>
>"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:375501c3fd83$eae73570$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'm sorry, I didn't explain well. I have a machine
>> running NT 4.0 Server that is a part of the workgroup.
>> My 2000 allows any person locally at it to log on to
>> either (this computer) or to the workgroup.
>> If they choose to log on to the workgroup, any user
>> defined on the NT 4.0 Server can log on to the 2000
>> without being defined in it's Users and Passwords.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >I asume you mean network logon as accessing a share??

You
>> can not logon to a
>> >machine locally at the console unless you have a user

>> account to
>> >authenticate against the local sam [unless autologon is

>> enabled]. My guess
>> >is that the guest account may be enabled on the machine

>> offering shares in
>> >which case any network user can access it. If it is

>> enabled, disable via
>> >lusrmgr.msc [enter in run box] and select users/guest

>> account and then
>> >disable it. --- Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

>> message
>> >news:09a201c3fd7a$536bb170$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> I have a machine on my network (peer-to-peer

workgroup)
>> >> running 2000 Professional which will allow any user

from
>> >> that workgroup to log on to it, regardless of whether

>> they
>> >> have an existing login defined in Users and

Passwords.
>> Is
>> >> there any way to change this?
>> >> I want only specified users to be able to log on to

this
>> >> machine.
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

 
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Steven L Umbach
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      2nd Mar 2004
OK. Then they have the option to logon to the domain or the local machine.
You can configure who can logon to a W2K computer via Local Security Policy
[secpol.msc]. Go to security settings/local policies/user righjts
assignments and configure logon locally to only have the users/groups that
you want to logon probably removing users and everyone and leaving
administrators and other specfic users or a group you create and add members
to. There is also a deny logon locally user right, but be careful with deny
permissions as administrator are also members of the users and everyone
group. --- Steve



"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:59e901c40083$4f0e75c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm not concerned about the computer's shares. I'm
> speaking about a person physically logging onto this
> specific PC/console.
> They are given a choice at the Log on to Windows
> screen "Log on to [pull-down menu]"; our workgroup (which
> is managed by our NT 4.0 Server) is allowed as a choice in
> this pull-down menu. If they are recognized as a user
> defined in the NT Server, this physical windows 2000 PC
> will allow them to log on to it, even though they are not
> defined as a user in the PC's User and Password settings.
> Is there any way to stop this?
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I am still confused. There are two types of normal use

> logon. Interactive/console
> >where a user logs onto the local computer entering their

> logon name and password to
> >get access, or network where a user already logged onto a

> local computer tries to
> >access a network share on another computer. There is not

> a workgroup logon per se. A
> >user logged onto a local computer will need to have

> credentials to access a share on
> >a network computer, either their logged on credentials or

> they will be prompted for
> >credentials to access the share if their user account

> that they are logged onto the
> >local computer does not exist on the target computer

> offering the share. However if
> >the computer offering the share has the guest account

> enabled and the share/ntfs
> >permissions include the everyone group then anyone from

> anywhere will get access even
> >if they do not have a user account on the computer

> offering the share. --- Steve
> >
> >
> >"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >news:375501c3fd83$eae73570$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I'm sorry, I didn't explain well. I have a machine
> >> running NT 4.0 Server that is a part of the workgroup.
> >> My 2000 allows any person locally at it to log on to
> >> either (this computer) or to the workgroup.
> >> If they choose to log on to the workgroup, any user
> >> defined on the NT 4.0 Server can log on to the 2000
> >> without being defined in it's Users and Passwords.
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >I asume you mean network logon as accessing a share??

> You
> >> can not logon to a
> >> >machine locally at the console unless you have a user
> >> account to
> >> >authenticate against the local sam [unless autologon is
> >> enabled]. My guess
> >> >is that the guest account may be enabled on the machine
> >> offering shares in
> >> >which case any network user can access it. If it is
> >> enabled, disable via
> >> >lusrmgr.msc [enter in run box] and select users/guest
> >> account and then
> >> >disable it. --- Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >news:09a201c3fd7a$536bb170$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> I have a machine on my network (peer-to-peer

> workgroup)
> >> >> running 2000 Professional which will allow any user

> from
> >> >> that workgroup to log on to it, regardless of whether
> >> they
> >> >> have an existing login defined in Users and

> Passwords.
> >> Is
> >> >> there any way to change this?
> >> >> I want only specified users to be able to log on to

> this
> >> >> machine.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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Timber
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      2nd Mar 2004
Yea!!!
Exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you.

>-----Original Message-----
>OK. Then they have the option to logon to the domain or

the local machine.
>You can configure who can logon to a W2K computer via

Local Security Policy
>[secpol.msc]. Go to security settings/local policies/user

righjts
>assignments and configure logon locally to only have the

users/groups that
>you want to logon probably removing users and everyone

and leaving
>administrators and other specfic users or a group you

create and add members
>to. There is also a deny logon locally user right, but be

careful with deny
>permissions as administrator are also members of the

users and everyone
>group. --- Steve
>
>
>
>"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:59e901c40083$4f0e75c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'm not concerned about the computer's shares. I'm
>> speaking about a person physically logging onto this
>> specific PC/console.
>> They are given a choice at the Log on to Windows
>> screen "Log on to [pull-down menu]"; our workgroup

(which
>> is managed by our NT 4.0 Server) is allowed as a choice

in
>> this pull-down menu. If they are recognized as a user
>> defined in the NT Server, this physical windows 2000 PC
>> will allow them to log on to it, even though they are

not
>> defined as a user in the PC's User and Password

settings.
>> Is there any way to stop this?
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >I am still confused. There are two types of normal use

>> logon. Interactive/console
>> >where a user logs onto the local computer entering

their
>> logon name and password to
>> >get access, or network where a user already logged

onto a
>> local computer tries to
>> >access a network share on another computer. There is

not
>> a workgroup logon per se. A
>> >user logged onto a local computer will need to have

>> credentials to access a share on
>> >a network computer, either their logged on credentials

or
>> they will be prompted for
>> >credentials to access the share if their user account

>> that they are logged onto the
>> >local computer does not exist on the target computer

>> offering the share. However if
>> >the computer offering the share has the guest account

>> enabled and the share/ntfs
>> >permissions include the everyone group then anyone from

>> anywhere will get access even
>> >if they do not have a user account on the computer

>> offering the share. --- Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

>> message
>> >news:375501c3fd83$eae73570$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> I'm sorry, I didn't explain well. I have a machine
>> >> running NT 4.0 Server that is a part of the

workgroup.
>> >> My 2000 allows any person locally at it to log on to
>> >> either (this computer) or to the workgroup.
>> >> If they choose to log on to the workgroup, any user
>> >> defined on the NT 4.0 Server can log on to the 2000
>> >> without being defined in it's Users and Passwords.
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >I asume you mean network logon as accessing a

share??
>> You
>> >> can not logon to a
>> >> >machine locally at the console unless you have a

user
>> >> account to
>> >> >authenticate against the local sam [unless

autologon is
>> >> enabled]. My guess
>> >> >is that the guest account may be enabled on the

machine
>> >> offering shares in
>> >> >which case any network user can access it. If it is
>> >> enabled, disable via
>> >> >lusrmgr.msc [enter in run box] and select

users/guest
>> >> account and then
>> >> >disable it. --- Steve
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Timber" <(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> >news:09a201c3fd7a$536bb170$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> I have a machine on my network (peer-to-peer

>> workgroup)
>> >> >> running 2000 Professional which will allow any

user
>> from
>> >> >> that workgroup to log on to it, regardless of

whether
>> >> they
>> >> >> have an existing login defined in Users and

>> Passwords.
>> >> Is
>> >> >> there any way to change this?
>> >> >> I want only specified users to be able to log on

to
>> this
>> >> >> machine.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
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