1 - how can you permenantly turn off the windows pseudo firewall ? - every
patch seems to turn it back on whatever we do and it then stops us from
connecting in to support our customers ( same for giant antispyware as it
misidentifies support tolls)

2 - We have a top of the range uw5 scsi machine - want to add some slow
sata drives for cheap data storage BUT windows automatically assigns them
the drive letter of c onwards , knocking the boot drives higher and
stopping windows from booting ( it cant find the windows directory) - it
isnt bios related as BEOS and linux dont have the same issue .

ng wrote:
> 1 - how can you permenantly turn off the windows pseudo firewall ? -
> every patch seems to turn it back on whatever we do and it then
> stops us from connecting in to support our customers ( same for
> giant antispyware as it misidentifies support tolls)
>

Learn how to use exceptions in the Windows firewall or replace the Windows
firewall with a better one. How are you connecting to your customers? Is the
problem at their end or your end? There realy needs to be a firewal at both
ends with exceptions for your support program.

> 2 - We have a top of the range uw5 scsi machine - want to add some
> slow sata drives for cheap data storage BUT windows automatically
> assigns them the drive letter of c onwards , knocking the boot
> drives higher and stopping windows from booting ( it cant find the
> windows directory) - it isnt bios related as BEOS and linux dont
> have the same issue .

Install the SATA drives after Windows is installed on the SCSI drives.
Alternatively don't partition any drives including the SCSI drives before
installing Windows. During the install partition only the drive you want to
boot from. After the install use the disk management snap in to partition
and format the other drives.

Kerry

we naturally do have full firewalls in place - the problem is the windows
pseudo firewall - whatever we do the damn thing keeps switching back on -
currently we have disabled updating and removed the ms security centre


windows was already installed on the scsiis - the problem is with windows -
when you install a new ide or sata - it asigns it AUTOMATICALLY as c - just
wondering whether anyone knew a way round this ? - if i install the satas
in a usb2 cabby then it works fine but thats slow and annoying .


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> ng wrote:
> > 1 - how can you permenantly turn off the windows pseudo firewall ? -
> > every patch seems to turn it back on whatever we do and it then
> > stops us from connecting in to support our customers ( same for
> > giant antispyware as it misidentifies support tolls)
> >
>
> Learn how to use exceptions in the Windows firewall or replace the Windows
> firewall with a better one. How are you connecting to your customers? Is the
> problem at their end or your end? There realy needs to be a firewal at both
> ends with exceptions for your support program.
>
> > 2 - We have a top of the range uw5 scsi machine - want to add some
> > slow sata drives for cheap data storage BUT windows automatically
> > assigns them the drive letter of c onwards , knocking the boot
> > drives higher and stopping windows from booting ( it cant find the
> > windows directory) - it isnt bios related as BEOS and linux dont
> > have the same issue .
>
> Install the SATA drives after Windows is installed on the SCSI drives.
> Alternatively don't partition any drives including the SCSI drives before
> installing Windows. During the install partition only the drive you want to
> boot from. After the install use the disk management snap in to partition
> and format the other drives.
>
> Kerry
>
>
>
>

ng wrote:
> we naturally do have full firewalls in place - the problem is the
> windows pseudo firewall - whatever we do the damn thing keeps
> switching back on - currently we have disabled updating and removed
> the ms security centre
>
>

Is this at your end or the customer's site? Are the computers part of an
active directory domain? I would suspect a group or local policy is set to
enforce the firewall being on. It's unusual behaviour. There are several
ways to turn off the firewall. Local or group policy is usually best.
There's a good tutorial here:

http://www.utexas.edu/its/windows/re...sable-wfw.html

I have used this method successfully both on standalone and domain pc's.
I've never had a problem with it turning itself back on.

> windows was already installed on the scsiis - the problem is with
> windows - when you install a new ide or sata - it asigns it
> AUTOMATICALLY as c - just wondering whether anyone knew a way round
> this ? - if i install the satas in a usb2 cabby then it works fine
> but thats slow and annoying .
>

Again this is not what I have experienced. BEOS and Linux don't use drive
letters so I don't know what you are talking about there. It is normal to
have to make some BIOS changes so the computer will boot from the SCSI drive
rather than the SATA drive but this is due to the BIOS and not Windows. I
have never seen Windows reassign the drive letter for the system/boot volume
unless a re-install was done.

Kerry

>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> ng wrote:
>>> 1 - how can you permenantly turn off the windows pseudo firewall ? -
>>> every patch seems to turn it back on whatever we do and it then
>>> stops us from connecting in to support our customers ( same for
>>> giant antispyware as it misidentifies support tolls)
>>>
>>
>> Learn how to use exceptions in the Windows firewall or replace the
>> Windows firewall with a better one. How are you connecting to your
>> customers? Is the problem at their end or your end? There realy
>> needs to be a firewal at both ends with exceptions for your support
>> program.
>>
>>> 2 - We have a top of the range uw5 scsi machine - want to add some
>>> slow sata drives for cheap data storage BUT windows automatically
>>> assigns them the drive letter of c onwards , knocking the boot
>>> drives higher and stopping windows from booting ( it cant find the
>>> windows directory) - it isnt bios related as BEOS and linux dont
>>> have the same issue .
>>
>> Install the SATA drives after Windows is installed on the SCSI
>> drives. Alternatively don't partition any drives including the SCSI
>> drives before installing Windows. During the install partition only
>> the drive you want to boot from. After the install use the disk
>> management snap in to partition and format the other drives.
>>
>> Kerry

"Kerry Brown" <(E-Mail Removed)*a*m> wrote:
>
>ng wrote:
>> we naturally do have full firewalls in place - the problem is the
>> windows pseudo firewall - whatever we do the damn thing keeps
>> switching back on - currently we have disabled updating and removed
>> the ms security centre
>>
>>
>
>Is this at your end or the customer's site? Are the computers part of an
>active directory domain? I would suspect a group or local policy is set to
>enforce the firewall being on. It's unusual behaviour. There are several
>ways to turn off the firewall. Local or group policy is usually best.
>There's a good tutorial here:
>
>http://www.utexas.edu/its/windows/re...sable-wfw.html
>
>I have used this method successfully both on standalone and domain pc's.
>I've never had a problem with it turning itself back on.
>
>> windows was already installed on the scsiis - the problem is with
>> windows - when you install a new ide or sata - it asigns it
>> AUTOMATICALLY as c - just wondering whether anyone knew a way round
>> this ? - if i install the satas in a usb2 cabby then it works fine
>> but thats slow and annoying .
>>
>
>Again this is not what I have experienced. BEOS and Linux don't use drive
>letters so I don't know what you are talking about there. It is normal to
>have to make some BIOS changes so the computer will boot from the SCSI
>drive
>rather than the SATA drive but this is due to the BIOS and not Windows. I
>have never seen Windows reassign the drive letter for the system/boot
>volume
>unless a re-install was done.
>
>Kerry
>
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>>
>>> ng wrote:
>>>> 1 - how can you permenantly turn off the windows pseudo firewall ? -
>>>> every patch seems to turn it back on whatever we do and it then
>>>> stops us from connecting in to support our customers ( same for
>>>> giant antispyware as it misidentifies support tolls)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Learn how to use exceptions in the Windows firewall or replace the
>>> Windows firewall with a better one. How are you connecting to your
>>> customers? Is the problem at their end or your end? There realy
>>> needs to be a firewal at both ends with exceptions for your support
>>> program.
>>>
>>>> 2 - We have a top of the range uw5 scsi machine - want to add some
>>>> slow sata drives for cheap data storage BUT windows automatically
>>>> assigns them the drive letter of c onwards , knocking the boot
>>>> drives higher and stopping windows from booting ( it cant find the
>>>> windows directory) - it isnt bios related as BEOS and linux dont
>>>> have the same issue .
>>>
>>> Install the SATA drives after Windows is installed on the SCSI
>>> drives. Alternatively don't partition any drives including the SCSI
>>> drives before installing Windows. During the install partition only
>>> the drive you want to boot from. After the install use the disk
>>> management snap in to partition and format the other drives.
>>>
>>> Kerry
>
>
>Probably like any change to Outlook Express restores any default settings such as: Tools/Options/Security/the check mark by "Do not allow attachments to be saved or opened that could potentially be a virus".

Gene K