WinXPproSP3 on Dell Vostro1510: The device Mgr. no longer shows a 1394
device, and plug in of my external 1394 HDD is not recognized..
Is there a 1394 driver for download or repair??

>WinXPproSP3 on Dell Vostro1510: The device Mgr. no longer shows a 1394
>device, and plug in of my external 1394 HDD is not recognized..
>Is there a 1394 driver for download or repair??

Unplug the device and then see if installing the following post-SP3
firewire-related / 1394 patches help you any. AT the top of each page
click "View and request hotfix downloads", follow the instructions:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955408
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955356
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958149
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/960970

You should also install this update for sure:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961187

Let me know how it goes.

Look in Computer Management instead to see if the device is listed when
plugged in

right-click MY COMPUTER | MANAGE | DISK MANAGEMENT

Also, in device manager you can right-click the top level and scan for
hardware changes

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SPAMCOP User



"Willard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> WinXPproSP3 on Dell Vostro1510: The device Mgr. no longer shows a 1394
> device, and plug in of my external 1394 HDD is not recognized..
> Is there a 1394 driver for download or repair??

Device does not show in Disk Management, nor when scanned for hardware
changes..
The device works when plugged in to an older PC..
As I recall the 1394 driver used to be listed by device Mgr.,even when
not plugged in..

SPAMCOP User wrote:
> Look in Computer Management instead to see if the device is listed when
> plugged in
>
> right-click MY COMPUTER | MANAGE | DISK MANAGEMENT
>
> Also, in device manager you can right-click the top level and scan for
> hardware changes
>
>

"Willard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Device does not show in Disk Management, nor when scanned for hardware
> changes..
> The device works when plugged in to an older PC..
> As I recall the 1394 driver used to be listed by device Mgr.,even when not
> plugged in..

Firewire ports do occasionally fry. Can you try another Firewire card?

>
> SPAMCOP User wrote:
>> Look in Computer Management instead to see if the device is listed when
>> plugged in
>>
>> right-click MY COMPUTER | MANAGE | DISK MANAGEMENT
>>
>> Also, in device manager you can right-click the top level and scan for
>> hardware changes
>>
>>

I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..

Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "Willard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> Device does not show in Disk Management, nor when scanned for hardware
>> changes..
>> The device works when plugged in to an older PC..
>> As I recall the 1394 driver used to be listed by device Mgr.,even when not
>> plugged in..
>>
>
> Firewire ports do occasionally fry. Can you try another Firewire card?
>
>
>> SPAMCOP User wrote:
>>
>>> Look in Computer Management instead to see if the device is listed when
>>> plugged in
>>>
>>> right-click MY COMPUTER | MANAGE | DISK MANAGEMENT
>>>
>>> Also, in device manager you can right-click the top level and scan for
>>> hardware changes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

"Willard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uSOF$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..

There are PCMCIA firewire cards available starting around $30. I've had to
use them myself when the onboard ports fried - on both Windows and Mac
laptops.

If the laptop is newer and has ExpressCard slots instead of PCMCIA, cards
are harder to find and are more expensive, but they are available.

>
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>> "Willard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> Device does not show in Disk Management, nor when scanned for hardware
>>> changes..
>>> The device works when plugged in to an older PC..
>>> As I recall the 1394 driver used to be listed by device Mgr.,even when
>>> not plugged in..
>>>
>>
>> Firewire ports do occasionally fry. Can you try another Firewire card?
>>
>>
>>> SPAMCOP User wrote:
>>>
>>>> Look in Computer Management instead to see if the device is listed when
>>>> plugged in
>>>>
>>>> right-click MY COMPUTER | MANAGE | DISK MANAGEMENT
>>>>
>>>> Also, in device manager you can right-click the top level and scan for
>>>> hardware changes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>

Willard wrote:
> I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..
>
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>> "Willard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> Device does not show in Disk Management, nor when scanned for
>>> hardware changes..
>>> The device works when plugged in to an older PC..
>>> As I recall the 1394 driver used to be listed by device Mgr.,even
>>> when not plugged in..
>>>
>>
>> Firewire ports do occasionally fry. Can you try another Firewire card?
>>
>>
>>> SPAMCOP User wrote:
>>>
>>>> Look in Computer Management instead to see if the device is listed
>>>> when plugged in
>>>>
>>>> right-click MY COMPUTER | MANAGE | DISK MANAGEMENT
>>>>
>>>> Also, in device manager you can right-click the top level and scan
>>>> for hardware changes
>>>>

Get a copy of Everest.

http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181

If you look in Devices:PCI Devices, you should see any chips on the
bus in the laptop. I would expect to find the following, which would
all be part of an O2micro chip. The O2micro chip is primarily added
to support the Cardbus slot (your expansion slot), but also includes
some other functions. This is my best guess as to what you'd see.

VEN_1217&DEV_00F7 OHCI IEEE 1394 (1217 = O2Micro)
VEN_1217&DEV_7120 Integrated MMC/SD
VEN_1217&DEV_7130 Integrated MS/xD
VEN_1217&DEV_7134 CardBus

The Everest display will show "Device ID" and values like "1217-00F7".
So the format of the information is slightly compacted.

The Dell driver for O2micro, is this one. The driver supports the lower
three items, but does not include Firewire. And that is because Firewire
is supposed to be covered by the OS itself.

ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/chipset/R197155.exe

According to this hardware report, 1394.inf (which will be on your C drive,
in the INF folder) is supposed to cover the Firewire. I looked in my copy
of that file (for SP3), and 1217-00F7 is not included. I take it, that
they're using a "generic" mechanism of some sort (like the BIOS passing
some kind of plug and play info) to get it detected. Look for
PCI\VEN_1217&DEV_00F7 on this page, and see if your results are similar.

http://www.hardware.no/tester/laptop...820/report.htm

Seeing the presence of the device, may mean the logic block is still
functional. But it doesn't explain why the Device Manager is not
showing it.

You might also look in the setupapi.log file, for any messages related to
trying to enumerate and install that device. There is likely more than
one file with that name in it, as when the file gets too big, Windows
starts a new one.

Paul

Em Sábado 11 Julho 2009 23:40, Willard escreveu:

> I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..
>

if you wanna be sure if it's a hardware fail or a OS fail, boot your
notebook with a knoppix live-cd, and see if the device is working there.

>I suspect you are right, but the PC is a notebook..

There have been a few others who've has 1394 issues when updating to
SP3. Have you tried the patches in the links I've provided?