Hi I have written a windows service in C# / .NET
I have installed it and it's working fine on a couple boxes but on my XP box
I get this error when I try to start it:

Error 1053: The service did not respond to the start or control request in a
timely fashion.

I understand that the scm issue the start and is supposed to put up this
error after some timeout period but it's coming up after only about half a
second and it doesnt even appear to have loaded my assembly. Note that it
only takes a couple seconds to start on the boxes that it works on.

Googling has only turned up actually taking too long or eventlog full as
causes. It fails identically for me with an empty eventlog...

I suspect there's some service registration corruption or something behind
this. Has anyone run into this before and resolved it?

thanks :-)
-john

PS I forgot to note that I am just running this service in the standard Local
System account and I'm trying to log to the eventlog first thing in cctor.
The log message never shows up. I have another service that also runs as
Local System and can log to the event log fine.
thanks again :-)
-john

Hi John,

Here's my understanding of the issue so far, please feel free to correct me
if I've misunderstood anything:

1) This is an environment specific issue, which means it only occurs on a
specific system
2) You're not sure if the service assembly gets executed or not since the
error occurs real quick after you try to start it


Well, I think we need to first make sure if the assembly gets executed or
not: if it's not, then it's obviously a service configuration problem; we
will have to look elsewhere. If it's executed but immediately exits, then
we need to debug the application to see why it fails. To determine that, we
could use Process Monitor
(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...eads/processmo
nitor.mspx) to monitor the file/registry access to see if there's any error.

To debug a service's startup code, please refer to following article:

#DebugInfo.com - Debugging startup code of services and COM servers
http://www.debuginfo.com/articles/debugstartup.html


Please reply here to let me know the result on your side. Thanks.


Sincerely,
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"Walter Wang [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Here's my understanding of the issue so far, please feel free to correct me
> if I've misunderstood anything:
>
> 1) This is an environment specific issue, which means it only occurs on a
> specific system
> 2) You're not sure if the service assembly gets executed or not since the
> error occurs real quick after you try to start it
>
>
> Well, I think we need to first make sure if the assembly gets executed or
> not: if it's not, then it's obviously a service configuration problem; we
> will have to look elsewhere. If it's executed but immediately exits, then
> we need to debug the application to see why it fails. To determine that, we
> could use Process Monitor
> (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...eads/processmo
> nitor.mspx) to monitor the file/registry access to see if there's any error.
>
> To debug a service's startup code, please refer to following article:
>
> #DebugInfo.com - Debugging startup code of services and COM servers
> http://www.debuginfo.com/articles/debugstartup.html
>
>
> Please reply here to let me know the result on your side. Thanks.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Walter Wang ((E-Mail Removed), remove 'online.')
> Microsoft Online Community Support
>
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Hi Walter,

Thats correct but with the exception that it's not specific to just one
machine. I have tried it on a couple different machines with XP and it has
failed identically on both. I have had success on W2K3, Vista, and Vista.x64.

I installed process monitor and btw thanks for that tip I'm sure it will
come in handy for many other things as well. Not exactly sure what to look
for in the very long output but the one thing that did catch my eye was that
by service process does get loaded and it looks like it's config file gets
read and some dlls get loaded but I don't think it ever gets to my entry
point. The process exit code is 80131700 which error lookup doesn't find but
google suggests that it means the shim couldnt load the CLR.
I fear this is as misleading as the scm "did not start in a timely fashion"
error message because I have 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, and 3.0 on there, all patched
current. I built my service with VS2005, nothing special like MSBee so it
should target 2.0.50727. I can run other apps built with it fine and even run
this one fine as a console app if I add in a dummy main and have it new my
service class and call onstart on it. I can send you the process monitor
capture log if youd like to dig deeper.

I am proceeding to the IFEO stuff but it will take some time as I dont have
VS on that box... argh... :-)

thanks again for your help!
-john



"Walter Wang [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Here's my understanding of the issue so far, please feel free to correct me
> if I've misunderstood anything:
>
> 1) This is an environment specific issue, which means it only occurs on a
> specific system
> 2) You're not sure if the service assembly gets executed or not since the
> error occurs real quick after you try to start it
>
>
> Well, I think we need to first make sure if the assembly gets executed or
> not: if it's not, then it's obviously a service configuration problem; we
> will have to look elsewhere. If it's executed but immediately exits, then
> we need to debug the application to see why it fails. To determine that, we
> could use Process Monitor
> (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...eads/processmo
> nitor.mspx) to monitor the file/registry access to see if there's any error.
>
> To debug a service's startup code, please refer to following article:
>
> #DebugInfo.com - Debugging startup code of services and COM servers
> http://www.debuginfo.com/articles/debugstartup.html
>
>
> Please reply here to let me know the result on your side. Thanks.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Walter Wang ((E-Mail Removed), remove 'online.')
> Microsoft Online Community Support
>
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Another interesting thing was that it looks in the registry under
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Hardware Profiles
0001\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_xxxx\0000
where xxxx is my service name. I entered no such key. Could it be a
coincidence that there's a legacy service with the same name or is this from
previous installs that failed do to the service not starting?

thank :-)

"John.NET" wrote:

> Hi Walter,
>
> Thats correct but with the exception that it's not specific to just one
> machine. I have tried it on a couple different machines with XP and it has
> failed identically on both. I have had success on W2K3, Vista, and Vista.x64.
>
> I installed process monitor and btw thanks for that tip I'm sure it will
> come in handy for many other things as well. Not exactly sure what to look
> for in the very long output but the one thing that did catch my eye was that
> by service process does get loaded and it looks like it's config file gets
> read and some dlls get loaded but I don't think it ever gets to my entry
> point. The process exit code is 80131700 which error lookup doesn't find but
> google suggests that it means the shim couldnt load the CLR.
> I fear this is as misleading as the scm "did not start in a timely fashion"
> error message because I have 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, and 3.0 on there, all patched
> current. I built my service with VS2005, nothing special like MSBee so it
> should target 2.0.50727. I can run other apps built with it fine and even run
> this one fine as a console app if I add in a dummy main and have it new my
> service class and call onstart on it. I can send you the process monitor
> capture log if youd like to dig deeper.
>
> I am proceeding to the IFEO stuff but it will take some time as I dont have
> VS on that box... argh... :-)
>
> thanks again for your help!
> -john
>
>
>
> "Walter Wang [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Here's my understanding of the issue so far, please feel free to correct me
> > if I've misunderstood anything:
> >
> > 1) This is an environment specific issue, which means it only occurs on a
> > specific system
> > 2) You're not sure if the service assembly gets executed or not since the
> > error occurs real quick after you try to start it
> >
> >
> > Well, I think we need to first make sure if the assembly gets executed or
> > not: if it's not, then it's obviously a service configuration problem; we
> > will have to look elsewhere. If it's executed but immediately exits, then
> > we need to debug the application to see why it fails. To determine that, we
> > could use Process Monitor
> > (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...eads/processmo
> > nitor.mspx) to monitor the file/registry access to see if there's any error.
> >
> > To debug a service's startup code, please refer to following article:
> >
> > #DebugInfo.com - Debugging startup code of services and COM servers
> > http://www.debuginfo.com/articles/debugstartup.html
> >
> >
> > Please reply here to let me know the result on your side. Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Walter Wang ((E-Mail Removed), remove 'online.')
> > Microsoft Online Community Support
> >
> > ==================================================
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Ok I tried the IFEO trick and verified that my code is never getting entered.
The vsjitdebugger comes up, I choose my already opened one with the break
points already set, and see it go into the running state. But after a second
or two it subsequently stops debugging without ever having hit any of my
breakpoints (cctor, ctor, OnStart)

"John.NET" wrote:

> Hi Walter,
>
> Thats correct but with the exception that it's not specific to just one
> machine. I have tried it on a couple different machines with XP and it has
> failed identically on both. I have had success on W2K3, Vista, and Vista.x64.
>
> I installed process monitor and btw thanks for that tip I'm sure it will
> come in handy for many other things as well. Not exactly sure what to look
> for in the very long output but the one thing that did catch my eye was that
> by service process does get loaded and it looks like it's config file gets
> read and some dlls get loaded but I don't think it ever gets to my entry
> point. The process exit code is 80131700 which error lookup doesn't find but
> google suggests that it means the shim couldnt load the CLR.
> I fear this is as misleading as the scm "did not start in a timely fashion"
> error message because I have 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, and 3.0 on there, all patched
> current. I built my service with VS2005, nothing special like MSBee so it
> should target 2.0.50727. I can run other apps built with it fine and even run
> this one fine as a console app if I add in a dummy main and have it new my
> service class and call onstart on it. I can send you the process monitor
> capture log if youd like to dig deeper.
>
> I am proceeding to the IFEO stuff but it will take some time as I dont have
> VS on that box... argh... :-)
>
> thanks again for your help!
> -john
>
>
>
> "Walter Wang [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Here's my understanding of the issue so far, please feel free to correct me
> > if I've misunderstood anything:
> >
> > 1) This is an environment specific issue, which means it only occurs on a
> > specific system
> > 2) You're not sure if the service assembly gets executed or not since the
> > error occurs real quick after you try to start it
> >
> >
> > Well, I think we need to first make sure if the assembly gets executed or
> > not: if it's not, then it's obviously a service configuration problem; we
> > will have to look elsewhere. If it's executed but immediately exits, then
> > we need to debug the application to see why it fails. To determine that, we
> > could use Process Monitor
> > (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...eads/processmo
> > nitor.mspx) to monitor the file/registry access to see if there's any error.
> >
> > To debug a service's startup code, please refer to following article:
> >
> > #DebugInfo.com - Debugging startup code of services and COM servers
> > http://www.debuginfo.com/articles/debugstartup.html
> >
> >
> > Please reply here to let me know the result on your side. Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Walter Wang ((E-Mail Removed), remove 'online.')
> > Microsoft Online Community Support
> >
> > ==================================================
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> >

Hi John,

Based on above information so far, it looks like an assembly loading
problem; there might be some dependent assembly not loaded when running
under SCM.

Try to use the fusion log:

#Assembly Binding Log Viewer (Fuslogvw.exe)
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/e74a18c4(VS.71).aspx

#Suzanne Cook's .NET CLR Notes : Debugging Assembly Loading Failures
http://blogs.msdn.com/suzcook/archiv.../29/57120.aspx

You can also send me the Process Monitor's log for inspection. Thanks.


Regards,
Walter Wang ((E-Mail Removed), remove 'online.')
Microsoft Online Community Support

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