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      20th Oct 2010
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Well I know you old boys and girls who are into Ubuntu and understand it are fine with it, but speaking as one who has been brought up with Windows I have tried Ubuntu twice and it does nothing for me . It is too complicated, it doesn't have enough software available, the drivers for hardware are a bit iffy and it is not for me. I appreciate that is free and individuals put a lot of time developing it and that with Windows is not all it is cracked up to be but it works and software houses do write software for it and hardware manufactures write drivers for their equipment and it is easily available via Google.

I think the major problem is that is no competition in Operating Systems as there is only three that I know Microsoft, Mac and Linux. The advantage of Linux is that it is free but lack of software choice and drivers, Mac the disadvantages expensive and you cannot buy the OS and put it on a PC (as far as I know) and Windows advantages plenty of software and compatible drivers and choice, easy to use. Disadvantages no real competition to keep prices low, costly as most software is expensive e.g Serif.

Until Linux can bring out a OS that is simple and makes it easy for the user with with little or no software experience to be able to us it it will continue to be a system for the aficionado with software names that baffle us as to what they do it will continue to be a OS for the technical people and not for the user who who wants to boot up and get on with enjoying their PC and not worry, it does what you want it to do.

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As to it not being stable or useable, once again if an American grunt can use GNU/Linux anyone can

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      20th Oct 2010
Hi Quadophile one of the problems is I am using a Auzen X-Meridian card after installing Ubuntu and had to revert to the on board sound card which was sort of OK with Rock and Pop but was usless with Classical, Opera and Electronica. My major enjoyment is music and I use the PC to store and play (as the wife likes the TV and I cannot the inane programs on TV). As at the moment I have over 100 Gb of music on my hard drive which I downloaded and took several days to download onto Ubuntu. What the thing that realy P****** me off was when I tried take Ubuntu off I through inexperience not only took Ubuntu off then tried to re partision the hard drive which ended up and spitting out the dummy and ended up reinstalling Windows 7 and losing all my stored data and emails, I know I know, should have taken a back up only learns the hard way and an am backing up now religously now. Now I have completed the rebuild I am now downloading all my music again which will take me at least two or three days working late into the night.

 
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      20th Oct 2010
Hi Abarbarian, I think what I am saying is that most of us who are not technofiles have been brought up with Windows and it is the conversion from to Windows to Linux is the thing we find difficult as with windows we are spoon fed and and thing I certainly found difficult was not down loading and forming a partision I had £300 gig for Ubuntu but taking it off as described in my previous message, because I did not feel comfortable with it and could not get the audio working to my satisfaction.

 
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      21st Oct 2010
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Hi Quadophile one of the problems is I am using a Auzen X-Meridian card after installing Ubuntu and had to revert to the on board sound card which was sort of OK with Rock and Pop but was usless with Classical, Opera and Electronica. My major enjoyment is music and I use the PC to store and play (as the wife likes the TV and I cannot the inane programs on TV). As at the moment I have over 100 Gb of music on my hard drive which I downloaded and took several days to download onto Ubuntu. What the thing that realy P****** me off was when I tried take Ubuntu off I through inexperience not only took Ubuntu off then tried to re partision the hard drive which ended up and spitting out the dummy and ended up reinstalling Windows 7 and losing all my stored data and emails, I know I know, should have taken a back up only learns the hard way and an am backing up now religously now. Now I have completed the rebuild I am now downloading all my music again which will take me at least two or three days working late into the night.
I feel sorry for you that you had to go through so much hassle. I had no idea that you were a music aficionado, also I did not have any info about your hardware, particularly the sound card.

Auzen X-Meridian sound card does have issues with Dolby and DTS capability and the company never released the driver for Linux, so yes these issues you point out are genuine and I can very well understand your frustration. However Ubuntu Linux can be tested out without installing it on the computer and that is one way of testing out the compatibility of the hardware with software. Instead of installing it if you had just tried it out the problems would surely have cropped up and you would have made the decision there and then.

100GB of music is a lot, may I ask what format you store it on? You may or may not know I am an audiophile too besides being a computer freak. My other hobbies include photography as well. Last but not least I sometimes do reviews of everything related to my three hobbies.

Anyway we are here to help and at any stage you feel you have a query, just post it on the forum. In future just make sure you elaborate your issue/problem and put forward any concerns you may have, that way your issues would be better handled and appropriate advise will be given by members here.

Once again I am sorry to know the experience has left a bad taste in your mouth.

 
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      21st Oct 2010
Hi Quadophile thanks for the reply, Yes I do enjoy all genres of music and listen while I am working on the PC. I am ripping in Windows Media Audio Lossless at 470 to 940kbps mathematically lossless. My interest in music has transferred to my children who have both grown up and left home, my son took a degree in music at 34yo and and both plays and conducts brass bands, he plays soprano and bb Cornet and trumpet, mandolin and like has a wide range of musical interest including folk music. My daughter plays ephonioum again in brass bands. My interest in music was passed down from my mother who was a music teacher, unfortunatly I do not play any instrument just listen.

 
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      26th Jan 2011
bootneck02,

I too am a Windows refugee for most everything I need a computer for, save one legacy program that only runs under Windows. Here is my own solution.

A possibility for you to consider is to use two computers, one running Windows and the other linux, connected to a single keyboard, video and mouse through an inexpensive KVM device. I use this myself. Running linux does not require as much in the way of hardware as Windows does, so an older box which you might have kept at your last upgrade will work fine. And the older box may be perfectly adequate for your music needs? The boxes sit side by side and so don't take up an inordinate amount of space.

So with the touch of a button you can jump between your Windoze box playing your music and your Ubunutu box.

As to stability, if Ubunutu is a 10, Windows is about a 5 or 6. Ubunutu linux is industrial strength stable, and far less susceptible to malware.

Your main complication seems to be the sound card. Yours is probably an expensive one and replacing it with something more linux friendly might well cost more than a good second hand box that is a generation back in specs.

BTW, I am only a noob at linux myself, but usually work through the occasional problem quickly with the help of the many great linux forums.

Just a thought.
 
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      10th Mar 2011
I've Ubuntu 10.10 here beside Windows 7 on a partitioned hard drive.
I have never been able to get anything of any of the Ubuntu sound programs to produce a peep. I'll have Windows 7 up with music coming from the speakers (i.e., they all work) and switch to Ubuntu and zip, zilch, nada. Not Internet radio nor CD do anything. Is this a problematic upload (other stuff on the Ubuntu 10.10 seems to work fine)? Or is there a darker plot afoot?
 
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      10th Mar 2011
Hello DPD! Welcome to PC Review. Glad you could make it

Now to your problem, could you give us some info on your sound card as to which one it is? Normally Ubuntu will automatically pick up the sound card and configure it during installation, could it be incompatibility issue?

Anyway before I could comment in the absence of what you hardware is, there is a troubleshoothing guide which will help you to find a solution hopefully. If not please come back and we will try to help you get the sound back.

 
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      10th Mar 2011
All I can find is "High Definition Audio Device" and "High Definition Audio Controller." The <Device Manager> chart says that its maker is Microsoft.
If there's a specific brand name to be found, I'm not finding it.
 
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      10th Mar 2011
Please go through the troubleshooting and see if you can fix the problem.

Sorry I forgot to put the link in my post earlier so here it is:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/So...otingProcedure

 
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