Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any reliability
issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the other?

I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am seriously
considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell Optiplex 210L
with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not intentionally bragging,
just wanting to tell ya what I got in case someone has any advice for or
against upgrading my system with it. I do also have XP Professional 64bit OS
to install if that may help but previous problems with the 64bit OS has me
leery of putting it back on my system...

One question if I may ask...

How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does not
have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I choose
to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?

Jim

For each SATA drive there HAS to be a SATA connector on the motherboard.
IF there is only ONE SATA connector on the board then you can only have one
SATA drive connected to the board.
IF there are two SATA connectors on the motherboard then you can connect two
SATA drives.
EACH SATA drive has it's own SATA cable and power connector.
Data cable with two connectors?
SATA cables have a plug(connector)at each end.
You cannot have two drives on a single cable.

There is no gain from having a 64 bit OS unless your software was
"written"to run on 64bit OS.

"NewsJunkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:C72ej.29507$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any reliability
> issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the other?
>
> I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am seriously
> considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell Optiplex
> 210L with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not intentionally
> bragging, just wanting to tell ya what I got in case someone has any
> advice for or against upgrading my system with it. I do also have XP
> Professional 64bit OS to install if that may help but previous problems
> with the 64bit OS has me leery of putting it back on my system...
>
> One question if I may ask...
>
> How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does
> not have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
> additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I choose
> to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?
>
> Jim
>
>

Its a bit difficult to discus reliability with hw that has only recently
been available.
If you use a 1tb drive then you need an equivelent size media for backup, or
did you forget that?


"NewsJunkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:C72ej.29507$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any reliability
> issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the other?
>
> I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am seriously
> considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell Optiplex
> 210L with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not intentionally
> bragging, just wanting to tell ya what I got in case someone has any
> advice for or against upgrading my system with it. I do also have XP
> Professional 64bit OS to install if that may help but previous problems
> with the 64bit OS has me leery of putting it back on my system...
>
> One question if I may ask...
>
> How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does
> not have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
> additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I choose
> to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?
>
> Jim
>

Did you forget about compressed backups?

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"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Its a bit difficult to discus reliability with hw that has only recently
> been available.
> If you use a 1tb drive then you need an equivelent size media for backup,
> or did you forget that?
>
>
> "NewsJunkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:C72ej.29507$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any reliability
>> issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the other?
>>
>> I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am seriously
>> considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell Optiplex
>> 210L with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not intentionally
>> bragging, just wanting to tell ya what I got in case someone has any
>> advice for or against upgrading my system with it. I do also have XP
>> Professional 64bit OS to install if that may help but previous problems
>> with the 64bit OS has me leery of putting it back on my system...
>>
>> One question if I may ask...
>>
>> How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does
>> not have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
>> additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I
>> choose to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
>

SATA cables are single: one drive, one cable.

You can get information on your system at support.dell.com.

For example, the mainboard has two SATA connectors on it. That should allow
you to add a second SATA hard drive, unless your optical drive is already
using the port. (You may be able to check that in Device Manager, although I
suggest opening the box to look.) The 210L's power supply already has two
SATA connectors, so you won't need any adapters. If you need an additional
SATA signal cable, they come with retail drive packages. (But not with a
bare drive.) Dell provided a screwless mount for a second HD, but I don't
know if they include a second SATA data cable.

There is no advantage to XP64 with this drive. 32 bit XP will work fine with
a 1TB drive, although you'd need SP1 or later for proper support. (
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/303013/en-us ) I ran XP Home SP2 with a
750GB drive, for example. (That drive now lives in an external USB/ESATA
enclosure.)

I was going to recommend against a 1TB drive based on price/capacity, but I
see that it's not ridiculously worse than for more mainstream sizes (e. g.,
500 GB): you can get a WDC 1TB drive for around $250 (www.newegg.com), while
a 500GB drive would be $100.

There's a slight chance that a large drive might strain the power supply or
cooling capacity of the 210L, but I wouldn't expect it. Maybe Dell support
can give you information on that, but in the past I found that they only
have information on configurations that they sell.

As for brands, I prefer Seagate's 5 year warranty. If you want the quietest
drive or the fastest possible drive, Seagate may not be the best choice.
Hitachi uses a 5 platter design for their 1TB drives (vs. 4 for Seagate),
which suggests that the Hitachi drives may use more power. You may find more
information at http://www.storagereview.com/ .

Have fun.

Return address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.

"NewsJunkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:C72ej.29507$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any reliability
> issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the other?
>
> I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am seriously
> considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell Optiplex
> 210L with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not intentionally
> bragging, just wanting to tell ya what I got in case someone has any
> advice for or against upgrading my system with it. I do also have XP
> Professional 64bit OS to install if that may help but previous problems
> with the 64bit OS has me leery of putting it back on my system...
>
> One question if I may ask...
>
> How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does
> not have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
> additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I choose
> to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?
>
> Jim
>

no

"David B." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Did you forget about compressed backups?
>
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>
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Its a bit difficult to discus reliability with hw that has only recently
>> been available.
>> If you use a 1tb drive then you need an equivelent size media for backup,
>> or did you forget that?
>>
>>
>> "NewsJunkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:C72ej.29507$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any reliability
>>> issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the other?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am
>>> seriously considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell
>>> Optiplex 210L with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not
>>> intentionally bragging, just wanting to tell ya what I got in case
>>> someone has any advice for or against upgrading my system with it. I do
>>> also have XP Professional 64bit OS to install if that may help but
>>> previous problems with the 64bit OS has me leery of putting it back on
>>> my system...
>>>
>>> One question if I may ask...
>>>
>>> How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does
>>> not have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
>>> additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I
>>> choose to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>>
>

Then why would the OP need a TB drive to back up a TB drive?

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"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
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> no
>
> "David B." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Did you forget about compressed backups?
>>
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In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:
>Its a bit difficult to discus reliability with hw that has only recently
>been available.
>If you use a 1tb drive then you need an equivelent size media for backup, or
>did you forget that?
>

But not everyone backs up 100% of their stuff to their backup drives. I only
backup my documents and stuff i can recover like pictures etc. I can reinstall
any of my apps if need be.



>
>"NewsJunkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:C72ej.29507$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any reliability
>> issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the other?
>>
>> I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am seriously
>> considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell Optiplex
>> 210L with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not intentionally
>> bragging, just wanting to tell ya what I got in case someone has any
>> advice for or against upgrading my system with it. I do also have XP
>> Professional 64bit OS to install if that may help but previous problems
>> with the 64bit OS has me leery of putting it back on my system...
>>
>> One question if I may ask...
>>
>> How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does
>> not have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
>> additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I choose
>> to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
>

The only reasonable use for 1TB is data! So it should be backed up, if of
any value.


"GMAN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:flu2q3$dho$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "DL" <address@invalid>
> wrote:
>>Its a bit difficult to discus reliability with hw that has only recently
>>been available.
>>If you use a 1tb drive then you need an equivelent size media for backup,
>>or
>>did you forget that?
>>
>
> But not everyone backs up 100% of their stuff to their backup drives. I
> only
> backup my documents and stuff i can recover like pictures etc. I can
> reinstall
> any of my apps if need be.
>
>
>
>>
>>"NewsJunkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:C72ej.29507$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any reliability
>>> issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the other?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am
>>> seriously
>>> considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell Optiplex
>>> 210L with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not intentionally
>>> bragging, just wanting to tell ya what I got in case someone has any
>>> advice for or against upgrading my system with it. I do also have XP
>>> Professional 64bit OS to install if that may help but previous problems
>>> with the 64bit OS has me leery of putting it back on my system...
>>>
>>> One question if I may ask...
>>>
>>> How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does
>>> not have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
>>> additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I
>>> choose
>>> to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>>

Also as Backup repository.


"Andre" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> The only reasonable use for 1TB is data! So it should be backed up, if of
> any value.
>
>
> "GMAN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:flu2q3$dho$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "DL" <address@invalid>
>> wrote:
>>>Its a bit difficult to discus reliability with hw that has only recently
>>>been available.
>>>If you use a 1tb drive then you need an equivelent size media for backup,
>>>or
>>>did you forget that?
>>>
>>
>> But not everyone backs up 100% of their stuff to their backup drives. I
>> only
>> backup my documents and stuff i can recover like pictures etc. I can
>> reinstall
>> any of my apps if need be.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"NewsJunkie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:C72ej.29507$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Is anyone using the new 1TB hard drives yet? Anyone have any
>>>> reliability
>>>> issues with them? Anyone think one brand/model is better than the
>>>> other?
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate anyone's comments about these drives as I am
>>>> seriously
>>>> considering getting one to put into my existing system, a Dell Optiplex
>>>> 210L with a dual core P4 3.0Ghz CPU and 2GB ram. I'm not intentionally
>>>> bragging, just wanting to tell ya what I got in case someone has any
>>>> advice for or against upgrading my system with it. I do also have XP
>>>> Professional 64bit OS to install if that may help but previous problems
>>>> with the 64bit OS has me leery of putting it back on my system...
>>>>
>>>> One question if I may ask...
>>>>
>>>> How is the secondary SATA connected to the system? As I recall, it does
>>>> not have a data cable with two connectors, so I assume I have to buy an
>>>> additional data and power cable for the additional hard drive, if I
>>>> choose
>>>> to continue using the existing hard drive. Right?
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>